Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

[BasedTaylor]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

You can't amnesty anyone during the season anyways. I would probably Amnesty Blatche over Lewis though.

I figured you can only amnesty guys who already had deals before the new CBA and Lewis' is the worst on the Wizards team, contract wise in the offseason so I amnestied him. I would have thought about Blatche to had I not already traded him.


Edit: The main reason I did amnesty him was I wanted to get some PT for Singelton, Booker, drafted Sullinger, and.... wow brainfart.... the rookie foreign SF.

[BasedTaylor]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Have the Hawks used their amnesty? I'm not aware of them using it, but the Assoc. guide doesn't have them listed in the amnesty section for having used it or having the ability to use it

[volstopfan14]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Have the Hawks used their amnesty? I'm not aware of them using it, but the Assoc. guide doesn't have them listed in the amnesty section for having used it or having the ability to use it

Cleveland, New York, Orlando, New Jersey, Indiana, and Golden State are the only teams who have used the amnesty clause in real life.

[bedwardsroy19]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

I will make sure to post it here when I am done. That way everyone can take a look and see what you think. The more people contribute, the better it will get.

If you haven't downloaded the excel file yet to see what we did you might want to hold off for a minute. We uploaded a template for everyone to input their franchise information and keep track of data for the future

[bhzmfia14]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Ok I’ve got a ton of trade proposals to run by everyone. First off I’m sure that several will be shot down due to CBA rules or whatnot (I just don’t keep up with that stuff as much as some of you). Second I thought I’d post the current standings to give perspective:
Miami Heat 35-16
Boston Celtics 34-18 1.5 gb
Chicago Bulls 32-18 2.5 gb
Atlanta Hawks 30-23 6 gb
Philadelphia 76ers 28-25 8 gb
Orlando Magic 26-27 10 gb
Indiana Pacers 26-27 10 gb
Milwaukee Bucks 25-29 11.5 gb
Washington Wizards 24-28 11.5 gb
New York Knicks 24-29 12 gb
Toronto Raptors 23-29 12.5 gb
Charlotte Bobcats 24-30 12.5 gb
Cleveland Cavaliers 21-28 13 gb
Detroit Pistons 22-31 14 gb
New Jersey Nets 20-33 16 gb
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Dallas Mavericks 37-13
Oklahoma City Thunder 37-17 2 gb
Denver Nuggets 31-21 7 gb
Golden State Warriors 28-24 10 gb
Minnesota Timberwolves 28-23 9.5 gb
Los Angeles Clippers 27-24 10.5 gb
San Antonio Spurs 28-26 11 gb
Memphis Grizzlies 26-26 12 gb
Portland Trailblazers 25-26 12.5 gb
Houston Rockets 22-30 16 gb
Phoenix Suns 21-29 16 gb
Los Angeles Lakers 21-31 17 gb
Sacramento Kings 19-32 18.5 gb
New Orleans Hornets 17-32 19.5 gb
Utah Jazz 17-33 20 gb
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There have been zero catastrophic injuries (I’m just letting the AI do injuries and the only guy out for the year is Dunleavy from the Bucks) The East has so much parity for the last 4 spots that I’m reluctant to write off anyone quite yet, but at the same time every team not named the Bulls, Heat, Celtics, and maybe the Hawks is kidding themselves about getting very far in the playoffs, so sneaking in at the 8<SUP>th</SUP> spot just invites a 1<SUP>st</SUP> round sweep and a worse draft pick. The only trade so far was as follows:
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Orlando gets: Bynum (LAL), Martin (HOU), Scola (HOU)
Lakers gets: Howard (ORL), Turkoglu (ORL), Thabeet (HOU)
Houston gets: Gasol (LAL), Blake (LAL) Reddick (ORL)
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I will number each trade for convenience:
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1. Orlando gets Nocioni and a 2<SUP>nd</SUP> round pick Philadelphia gets Glenn Davis. With Scola and Anderson both signed for three more years, Davis is a large contract for a 10 minute a game player. Nocioni is an expiring deal. Philly gets some inside help.
2. Milwaukee sends Stephen Jackson, Shaun Livingston, and Jon Brockman to the Timberwolves for Martell Webster, Anthony Randolph, and Brad Miller. Jackson IRL has expressed a desire for a contract extension that the Bucks aren’t going to do. Randolph is young and has potential plus is a RFA. Webster has a team option so the Bucks can either keep him or have cap room. Miller makes the deal work. He does have 2 years on his deal but it’s about 1/3 of the cost of Jackson’s deal, plus he provides minutes if Ilaysova doesn’t resign. The Twolves get an upgrade at SG.
3. Milwaukee sends Jackson to the Hawks for Hinrich and a 2012 2<SUP>nd</SUP> round pick. Hinrich is an expiring contract at 8m.
4. Cavaliers send Sessions to the Heat for Chalmers and a 2012 1<SUP>st</SUP> rounder. Sessions will turn down his player option for Cleveland since Kyrie Irving is the PG of the future. He may take his option with Miami. Cleveland gets a pick, albeit a late 1<SUP>st</SUP> rounder, and a decent PG who can knock down shots.
5. Cavaliers send Sessions to the Lakers for Luke Walton and a 2012 1<SUP>st</SUP> rounder. Again a late 1<SUP>st</SUP> round pick, plus Walton is a bad contract for one more year after 2011/2012, but the Cavs are not going to keep Sessions so they might as well get something. The Lakers need to take one last shot at getting into the postseason before blowing up the team. So far the Howard deal has been a bust for them.
6. Memphis sends Mayo and Haddadi to the Nets for Morrow and Shelden Williams
7. Memphis sends Mayo, Arthur, Haddadi, and a 2013 2<SUP>nd</SUP> rounder to the TWolves for Ridnour, Webster, and Tolliver. Mayo isn’t resigning with the Grizzlies, nor is Arthur. Memphis gets a good 3<SUP>rd</SUP> guard in Ridnour signed for 3 years, Webster has the aforementioned team option and Tolliver is expiring. Minnesota upgrades at the 2 guard plus gets another big body. Memphis salvages something for Mayo rather than letting him walk.
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The following trades are all surrounding the New Orleans Hornets. Eric Gordon is refusing to sign an extension. He is a RFA so NO can get one more year out of him, hope he changes his mind if they build around him or they can cut their losses now. The 1<SUP>st</SUP> trade is done with Gordon spending one more year in NO and the Hornets hoping to convince him to sign an extension.
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8. Kaman, Cardell Johnson to the Rockets for Terrence Williams, Flynn, Hill, Dragic, and a 2012 2<SUP>nd</SUP> round pick. All are expiring contracts but Williams, Hill, and Flynn have team options. If they show something maybe NO keeps them around. Rockets don’t see any of those guys in their future and they get Kaman to try and make a playoff push in a very wide open western conference. Kaman, Gasol, parsons, C. Lee, Lowrey, Blake, Patterson, Dalembert, and Reddick is a solid 9 man rotation.
9. Gordon, C. Johnson to the Nets for 2012 1<SUP>st</SUP> rounder (probable high lottery), Brooks, and Morrow.
10. Gordon to the Rockets for C. Lee, 2012 1<SUP>st</SUP> rounder, 2013 1<SUP>st</SUP> rounder
11. Gordon, Kaman to Pacers for Granger, George Hill, and a 2012 1<SUP>st</SUP> rounder
12. Gordon, Kaman to the Twolves for Pekovic, Webster, D. Williams, 2013 1<SUP>st</SUP> rounder
13. Gordon, Kaman to Warriors for Monta Ellis and Kwame Brown
14. Gordon, Kaman to Blazers for Wallace, Matthews, 2012 1<SUP>st</SUP> rounder, 2013 1<SUP>st</SUP> rounder. This is down with the assumption that Wallace and Crawford have no plans to accept their player options, Felton may walk in free agency and Camby is retiring. Batum is a RFA. Blazers use the cap room to bring in a PG to join Gordon, Batum, Aldridge, and Oden.
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Question: Can you sign an extension in season and then trade the player? I would like to do that with Mayo and possibly Gordon to make them more valuable but I'm not sure what the real life rules are on that. Thanks in advance for any help or thoughts. Pull no punches, I've got thick skin.

Grizz trading OJ and DA is doesn't seem likely. They will keep one of them and DA is the most likely one they keep. He was their best bench player last year. The OJ/Haddadi for Williams/Morrow deal is a more likely scenario.

Also, I like that Gordon for Granger deal...but, I would like to see the Warriors get involved. Its rumored that they are interested in Kaman. Maybe something like Gordon/Jack to Indy, Granger/Hill/someone from Warriors to Hornets, Kaman to Warriors. Of course, NOH will get something else back in the deal.

[chinatownpwnage]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Think I might start up a Pistons association using this guide/roster/draft classes.

What do you guys think of this trade?

Pistons send:
Ben Gordon
Jason Maxiell
Vernon Macklin
Future 1st round pick

Jazz send:
Al Jefferson
Current 2nd round pick

I'd like to pair up Jefferson with Monroe in the post. This gives the Jazz another decent scorer in Gordon while letting Kanter get more time in and adding depth in the post. Ran it through the NBA Trade Machine without the picks and it came out successful.

Pretty good if you make the pick only like top 5 protection because all Jefferson is one of the better and underrated big men. Also I would do the trade it you think Gordon can produce more than miles and bell. I think they can especially cause miles also plays the three at times

[mavfan21]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

So if I set the CPU to do most transactions for the other 29 teams will I get good results for things like trades, drafting, FA signing?

Any issues with a 56 game season?

[chinatownpwnage]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

So if I set the CPU to do most transactions for the other 29 teams will I get good results for things like trades, drafting, FA signing?

Any issues with a 56 game season?

def will be uneven trades esp with edited rosters because the trade values aren't right

[Shibito]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

def will be uneven trades esp with edited rosters because the trade values aren't right

Drafting ends up bad in CPU hands too.

[bedwardsroy19]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

So if I set the CPU to do most transactions for the other 29 teams will I get good results for things like trades, drafting, FA signing?

Any issues with a 56 game season?

I've found that a lot of the FA signings don't make sense if they are left up to the CPU as well.

56 Game Season is totally fine though

[volstopfan14]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Does anyone know what day the players in China will be available to sign with an NBA team? I'd like to add them to teams midseason and am looking for an accuarte date.

[ballsohard]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Cleveland, New York, Orlando, New Jersey, Indiana, and Golden State are the only teams who have used the amnesty clause in real life.

Who did the Nets amnesty?

Also you can amnesty players in game?

[ballsohard]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Does anyone know what day the players in China will be available to sign with an NBA team? I'd like to add them to teams midseason and am looking for an accuarte date.

Pretty sure it depends on when their Chinese teams get eliminated from the playoffs. I know that the last day RFAs can sign an offer sheet is 3/1.

[bedwardsroy19]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Who did the Nets amnesty?

Also you can amnesty players in game?

Travis Outlaw I believe, but I may be wrong

[volstopfan14]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Who did the Nets amnesty?

Also you can amnesty players in game?

Travis Outlaw.

You can do it manually by editing the players contract to 0 then releasing him.