Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

[chinatownpwnage]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Pacers, Suns?

i would go for the pacers cause the suns don't have much to offer except Nash or morris, and unless you can make a three team deal, ellis is better suited for the pacers

personally, i think monta ellis stays put and learns to be more of a team player while the warriors look for post help and if ellis is traded i would trade him for a big with kwame brown who is an expiring contract, that way it gives stephen curry a threat and allows klay thompson to grow, especially cause he's shown a lot more improvement the last few weeks

[jermo]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

I think the Jazz would be a good fit, they really need a SG and they have an extra big man to deal, Warriors need someone in center. Something like Monta for Al Jefferson and Alec Burks or a 1st? What do you guys think?

[teagle721]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

How does this trade sound?

Jazz Get:
Steve Nash

Suns Get:
Devin Harris
Alec Burks
Current 1st Round Pick

The Jazz are currently in playoff contention in my association and this would help them get the pure point guard they need.

[chinatownpwnage]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

I think the Jazz would be a good fit, they really need a SG and they have an extra big man to deal, Warriors need someone in center. Something like Monta for Al Jefferson and Alec Burks or a 1st? What do you guys think?

i like him going to the jazz, but i think jefferson is too important for them because kanter is not ready to start

maybe a trade for millsap and a 1st or something for ellis

also, i dont think warriors don't want or need burks cause it would create a jam with klay thompson

[chinatownpwnage]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

How does this trade sound?

Jazz Get:
Steve Nash

Suns Get:
Devin Harris
Alec Burks
Current 1st Round Pick

The Jazz are currently in playoff contention in my association and this would help them get the pure point guard they need.

this trade is pretty good it gives the suns a decent pick and gives them a high potential player and give devin harris a chance to take over a team like her did in NJ

[jermo]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

I like the Nash trade but don't you think if the suns are moving such an asset that they could send one of those crappy contracts along with him (Childress, Warrick, Frye)?

[LJ_K1NG]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Whats a good team for Monta Ellis to go to?

Ellis to the Pacers for Danny Granger.. Pacers get that elite guy who can get 25 points on his own n can move Paul George to SF where he's better suited..

Warriors get a solid wing to play along side Curry..

i made this trade in my association n it seems to have worked out for both teams..

[volstopfan14]

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Ok, I am 1 1/2 weeks away from the trade deadline in my association and am considering a bunch of moves. I'm going to list them here. I'd appreciate any feedback. Sorry for the long post

Spoiler

1. Stephen Jackson to ATL for Kirk Hinrich, possible 2nd rd pick
2. Stephen Jackson to NJ for Anthony Morrow, Jordan Farmar
Reasoning: Jackson wants out of Milwaukee badly and the Bucks feel the same way. MIL is 2 games out of the 8th seed but Jackson isn't playing much anyway so this shouldn't hurt too bad. Hinrich is an expiring contract and Morrow is a deadly 3 pt shooter. ATL is in the 8th seed and could use some bench scoring if they want to make a run in the playoffs. New Jersey is willing to target Jackson because reportedly Dwight Howard wants to play with him. This shouldn't effect a trade for Howard or cap room if he becomes a FA.
3. O.J. Mayo to NJ for Jordan Farmar and a lottery protected pick
4. O.J. Mayo to NJ for Anthony Morrow
5. O.J. Mayo to CHI for Ronnie Brewer and a 1st round pick (you could put Jimmy Butler in too if you wanted to)
The Grizzlies will not re-sign Mayo and would like to get something for him. Chicago is looking for some scoring off the bench and would give a defensive SG and a late 1st for Mayo. NJ is looking for cap space for the offseason. If Howard is traded to NJ they would lose Marshon Brooks and Mayo could be the scoring SG they need. Based on what Howard decideds, the pick could be really bad or really good. Farmar would be your backup PG and Morrow could replace Mayo's scoring off the bench. My only concern for Memphis is that if they don't get Morrow they don't have any scorers off the bench. There is one more trade below
6. Steve Nash to MIA, O.J. Mayo and Mario Chalmers to PHX, and Mike Miller and MIA 1st round pick to MEM
7. Steve Nash to POR for Raymond Felton, Greg Oden, and either Nicolas Batum or a draft pick
8. Steve Nash to IND for Darren Collison and a 1st round pick
I, for one, don't really think Phoenix will trade Nash. But if they do, these are the best offers I've seen. I believe someone else have used each of these and I really like them. Portland is in the 8 seed now but, with Nash, they could make a run in the playoffs. Batum likely will not re-sign next season. If IND thinks they can make a serious playoff run they could target Nash.
9. Eric Bledsoe and Randy Foye from LAC to ORL for Jason Richardson
This would only work if ORL trades Howard and goes into rebuilding mode. They very well could get a SG (Kevin Martin, Marshon Brooks) and make Richardson and his bad contract expendable. Foye is an expiring contract and Bledsoe is a solid PG prospect. LAC gets some extra bench help and becomes very deep with J-Rich, Kenyon Martin, and Mo Williams off the bench.
10. Ramon Sessions to LAL for TPE/Luke Walton and a 1st round pick
11. Leandro Barbosa to LAL for TPE and 1st round pick
12. Nick Young to LAL for TPE/Luke Walton and 1st round pick
13. Andray Blatche to LAL for TPE and 1st round pick
LAL is looking for a PG and help off the bench. Right now they are in the 6 seed but there is only a 3.5 game difference between the 2 seed and the 7 seed so things could change quickly. Sessions fills the PG need, while Barbosa or Young could serve as a scorer off the bench. Blatche has worn out his welcome in Washington but a change of scenery could help him. He would be the third big man behind Gasol and Bynum.
14. Leandro Barbosa to ATL, Kirk Hinrich to LAL, TPE and possible ATL pick to TOR
15. Hinrich and a 1st round pick from LAL to TOR, Jose Calderon from TOR to LAL
These 2 trades have to go together. Calderon does not fit in the LAL TPE but Hinrich does and Hinrich can be trade for Calderon. In these deals, ATL gets scoring off the bench for Hinrich, who is having the worst season of his career, LAL gets a major upgrade at PG and TOR gets picks and an expiring contract.
16. Shawn Marion to IND for an expiring contract
17. Shawn Marion to GS for Kwame Brown
Dallas is trying to shed cap to make a run at Howard and Williams in free agency. So this only works if Howard is not traded. GS is looking for a veteran defender at the 3 and Indiana might want a solid wing defender off the bench for the playoffs. Dallas might have to give a pick to make these deals work.
18. Eric Gordon and Chris Kaman to IND for Danny Granger, 1st round pick, and possibly George Hill
19. Chris Kaman to IND for 1st round pick
20. Chris Kaman to MIN for Wes Johnson, Martell Webster, and Anthony Randolph/Brad Miller
21. Kaman to MIN for Michael Beasley and Webster
Chris Kaman wants out of New Orleans. If the Hornets think the Gordon will leave as a FA then deal 18 would work. Or they could just trade Kaman and take their chances with Gordon. Beasley, Johnson and Randolph are prospects with potential while Webster and Miller are on expiring contracts.
21. Kevin Martin to IND for Danny Granger
22. Monta Ellis to IND for Danny Granger
Just like in deal 18, IND is trying to get a SG for Granger. Either one of these works, but I think I like 21 better.
23. Andray Blatche to BOS for Jermaine O'Neal and a pick
Boston could take on a young PF with potential. As I said earlier, a change of scenery could be helpful for Blatche.
These next trades relate to my team, the Charlotte Bobcats
24. Corey Maggette to CHI for C.J. Watson and Kyle Korver
25. Corey Maggette to ATL for Kirk Hinrich and Donald Sloan
26. D.J. Augustin to NO for Al-Forouq Aminu
27. Augustin to TOR for Ed Davis
I want Maggette out bad. THe first trade works for me because I get a player I really like in Watson (Go Vols) and a shooter/espring contract in Korver. Chicago gets some help off the bench for the playoffs. In the 2nd trade ATL gets some scoring off the bench and I get an expriring contract. Sloan is just for $ reasons. The next 2 i trade Augustin. NO and TOR both need a PG. New Orleans could be getting a SF in Granger which could make Aminu not needed. With Jonas Valanciunas coming over for TOR next year, they do not have enough minutes for Amir Johnson, Davis, Bargnani, and Valanciunas. Davis could be the odd man out.

I'm not sure if I will do the 3rd and 4th trades or not. I'm still not sure if it is worth it to trade Augustin. However, I'd do the 1st or 2nd trades in a second. I'm also open to dealing Gerald Henderson and/or Boris Diaw but I haven't found a good trade yet.

Last but not least, the Dwight Howard trades. I think that it is down to 3 places: NJ, CHI and LAL. Here are the best I've seen for each. Which is best for ORL and what could be done to improve it? It is also a possibility that Howard could stay and become a FA.
28. Howard, Ryan Anderson, and Turkoglu to CHI, Joakim Noah, Luol Deng, Taj Gibson, Omer Asik, and picks to ORL
29. Howard and Turkoglu to NJ, Brook Lopez, Marshon Brooks, Kris Humphries, Memhet Okur, Jordan Farmar, and picks to ORL
30. Howard, Turkoglu, and Glen Davis to LAL, Pau Gasol to HOU, Andrew Bynum, Kevin Martin, Patrick Patterson, Chase Budinger, and multiple picks to ORL

[jermo]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Ellis to the Pacers for Danny Granger.. Pacers get that elite guy who can get 25 points on his own n can move Paul George to SF where he's better suited..

Warriors get a solid wing to play along side Curry..

i made this trade in my association n it seems to have worked out for both teams..

I would think if they are shipping out monta they would want to address a more serious need, they already a serviceable SF in dorell wright, in real life and in the game they are dying for a big man.

[LJ_K1NG]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

I would think if they are shipping out monta they would want to address a more serious need, they already a serviceable SF in dorell wright, in real life and in the game they are dying for a big man.

i traded for Okafor earlier.. i guess i should have put that as well.. so their starting five is:

PG Curry
SG Wright
SF Granger
PF Lee
C Okafor

since the trade the Warriors moved from 9th to 4th in the West.. Okafor gives them solid work on the glass and controls the paint on D.. Curry gives them great PG play and Granger provides great scoring n some D as well..

btw.. the Warriors are not too happy with Dorrell Wright irl.. he's pretty much a 3pt shooter who isnt shooting the 3 ball so well right now.. n i think they would rather have 3 who can do a little more..

[jermo]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Ok, I am 1 1/2 weeks away from the trade deadline in my association and am considering a bunch of moves. I'm going to list them here. I'd appreciate any feedback. Sorry for the long post

Spoiler

1. Stephen Jackson to ATL for Kirk Hinrich, possible 2nd rd pick
2. Stephen Jackson to NJ for Anthony Morrow, Jordan Farmar
Reasoning: Jackson wants out of Milwaukee badly and the Bucks feel the same way. MIL is 2 games out of the 8th seed but Jackson isn't playing much anyway so this shouldn't hurt too bad. Hinrich is an expiring contract and Morrow is a deadly 3 pt shooter. ATL is in the 8th seed and could use some bench scoring if they want to make a run in the playoffs. New Jersey is willing to target Jackson because reportedly Dwight Howard wants to play with him. This shouldn't effect a trade for Howard or cap room if he becomes a FA.
3. O.J. Mayo to NJ for Jordan Farmar and a lottery protected pick
4. O.J. Mayo to NJ for Anthony Morrow
5. O.J. Mayo to CHI for Ronnie Brewer and a 1st round pick (you could put Jimmy Butler in too if you wanted to)
The Grizzlies will not re-sign Mayo and would like to get something for him. Chicago is looking for some scoring off the bench and would give a defensive SG and a late 1st for Mayo. NJ is looking for cap space for the offseason. If Howard is traded to NJ they would lose Marshon Brooks and Mayo could be the scoring SG they need. Based on what Howard decideds, the pick could be really bad or really good. Farmar would be your backup PG and Morrow could replace Mayo's scoring off the bench. My only concern for Memphis is that if they don't get Morrow they don't have any scorers off the bench. There is one more trade below
6. Steve Nash to MIA, O.J. Mayo and Mario Chalmers to PHX, and Mike Miller and MIA 1st round pick to MEM
7. Steve Nash to POR for Raymond Felton, Greg Oden, and either Nicolas Batum or a draft pick
8. Steve Nash to IND for Darren Collison and a 1st round pick
I, for one, don't really think Phoenix will trade Nash. But if they do, these are the best offers I've seen. I believe someone else have used each of these and I really like them. Portland is in the 8 seed now but, with Nash, they could make a run in the playoffs. Batum likely will not re-sign next season. If IND thinks they can make a serious playoff run they could target Nash.
9. Eric Bledsoe and Randy Foye from LAC to ORL for Jason Richardson
This would only work if ORL trades Howard and goes into rebuilding mode. They very well could get a SG (Kevin Martin, Marshon Brooks) and make Richardson and his bad contract expendable. Foye is an expiring contract and Bledsoe is a solid PG prospect. LAC gets some extra bench help and becomes very deep with J-Rich, Kenyon Martin, and Mo Williams off the bench.
10. Ramon Sessions to LAL for TPE/Luke Walton and a 1st round pick
11. Leandro Barbosa to LAL for TPE and 1st round pick
12. Nick Young to LAL for TPE/Luke Walton and 1st round pick
13. Andray Blatche to LAL for TPE and 1st round pick
LAL is looking for a PG and help off the bench. Right now they are in the 6 seed but there is only a 3.5 game difference between the 2 seed and the 7 seed so things could change quickly. Sessions fills the PG need, while Barbosa or Young could serve as a scorer off the bench. Blatche has worn out his welcome in Washington but a change of scenery could help him. He would be the third big man behind Gasol and Bynum.
14. Leandro Barbosa to ATL, Kirk Hinrich to LAL, TPE and possible ATL pick to TOR
15. Hinrich and a 1st round pick from LAL to TOR, Jose Calderon from TOR to LAL
These 2 trades have to go together. Calderon does not fit in the LAL TPE but Hinrich does and Hinrich can be trade for Calderon. In these deals, ATL gets scoring off the bench for Hinrich, who is having the worst season of his career, LAL gets a major upgrade at PG and TOR gets picks and an expiring contract.
16. Shawn Marion to IND for an expiring contract
17. Shawn Marion to GS for Kwame Brown
Dallas is trying to shed cap to make a run at Howard and Williams in free agency. So this only works if Howard is not traded. GS is looking for a veteran defender at the 3 and Indiana might want a solid wing defender off the bench for the playoffs. Dallas might have to give a pick to make these deals work.
18. Eric Gordon and Chris Kaman to IND for Danny Granger, 1st round pick, and possibly George Hill
19. Chris Kaman to IND for 1st round pick
20. Chris Kaman to MIN for Wes Johnson, Martell Webster, and Anthony Randolph/Brad Miller
21. Kaman to MIN for Michael Beasley and Webster
Chris Kaman wants out of New Orleans. If the Hornets think the Gordon will leave as a FA then deal 18 would work. Or they could just trade Kaman and take their chances with Gordon. Beasley, Johnson and Randolph are prospects with potential while Webster and Miller are on expiring contracts.
21. Kevin Martin to IND for Danny Granger
22. Monta Ellis to IND for Danny Granger
Just like in deal 18, IND is trying to get a SG for Granger. Either one of these works, but I think I like 21 better.
23. Andray Blatche to BOS for Jermaine O'Neal and a pick
Boston could take on a young PF with potential. As I said earlier, a change of scenery could be helpful for Blatche.
These next trades relate to my team, the Charlotte Bobcats
24. Corey Maggette to CHI for C.J. Watson and Kyle Korver
25. Corey Maggette to ATL for Kirk Hinrich and Donald Sloan
26. D.J. Augustin to NO for Al-Forouq Aminu
27. Augustin to TOR for Ed Davis
I want Maggette out bad. THe first trade works for me because I get a player I really like in Watson (Go Vols) and a shooter/espring contract in Korver. Chicago gets some help off the bench for the playoffs. In the 2nd trade ATL gets some scoring off the bench and I get an expriring contract. Sloan is just for $ reasons. The next 2 i trade Augustin. NO and TOR both need a PG. New Orleans could be getting a SF in Granger which could make Aminu not needed. With Jonas Valanciunas coming over for TOR next year, they do not have enough minutes for Amir Johnson, Davis, Bargnani, and Valanciunas. Davis could be the odd man out.

I'm not sure if I will do the 3rd and 4th trades or not. I'm still not sure if it is worth it to trade Augustin. However, I'd do the 1st or 2nd trades in a second. I'm also open to dealing Gerald Henderson and/or Boris Diaw but I haven't found a good trade yet.

Last but not least, the Dwight Howard trades. I think that it is down to 3 places: NJ, CHI and LAL. Here are the best I've seen for each. Which is best for ORL and what could be done to improve it? It is also a possibility that Howard could stay and become a FA.
28. Howard, Ryan Anderson, and Turkoglu to CHI, Joakim Noah, Luol Deng, Taj Gibson, Omer Asik, and picks to ORL
29. Howard and Turkoglu to NJ, Brook Lopez, Marshon Brooks, Kris Humphries, Memhet Okur, Jordan Farmar, and picks to ORL
30. Howard, Turkoglu, and Glen Davis to LAL, Pau Gasol to HOU, Andrew Bynum, Kevin Martin, Patrick Patterson, Chase Budinger, and multiple picks to ORL

I like trades 5, 18, and 23 the most

[chinatownpwnage]

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I like the Nash trade but don't you think if the suns are moving such an asset that they could send one of those crappy contracts along with him (Childress, Warrick, Frye)?

it depends on how much you value and believe in alec burks and how much you think devin harris can perform as a sun. if the trader thinks burks can be an all star play, then no need to get rid of a contract, and if you think devin harris can perform like an all star like in '09 when he was the main guy in NJ, then no need to get rid of a contract

plus, devin harris is a 2year / 9mil contract. another thing is you have to take into account that steve nash may only play another year or two

i came up with a few trades that you could think about too::

#1
Steve Nash, Josh Childress, '12 1st(Jazz Lotto) to Trail Blazers
Devin Harris, Josh Howard, Oden to the Suns
Felton and Shannon Brown to Jazz

#2
Steve Nash, Shannon Brown to Mavs
Beaubois, Kidd, Odom, '14 1st (top 20) to Suns

#3
Steven Nash to Suns
J. Teague, Hinrich, '12 first (lotto) [maybe even give another first, depending on how good you think teague could be]

personally, i would do the devin harris, burks and 1st to suns for nash, but those three are just trades to think about

[chinatownpwnage]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

I like trades 5, 18, and 23 the most

this is another Dwight Howard trade

Josh Smith, Zaza Pachulia Andrew Bynum to Orlando
Pau Gasol, '12 2nd (Lakers) to Hawks
Dwight Howard, Hedo Turkoglu, Glen Davis to Lakers

also, i got rid of marions contract and obtained cousins with this

Mahinmi, Beaubois, Odom, Jones or Wright, and 2 1st rounders to Kings
Cousins, Garcia, Kwame Brown the Mavs
Shawn Marion to the Warriors

[volstopfan14]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

I like trades 5, 18, and 23 the most

Thanks for the feedback.
For 18, do you think I should include George Hill? I can't decide if that is too much or jsut right.

[jermo]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Thanks for the feedback.
For 18, do you think I should include George Hill? I can't decide if that is too much or jsut right.

Yea i think george should be included