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  • RyanFitzmagic
    MVP
    • Oct 2011
    • 1959

    #61
    Re: New NBA 2K13 Video From Gamescom

    Originally posted by jreezy18
    I don't really care that he was wide open or that he made it, just that he plays like him. I'm well aware that he also has a tendency to force shots.
    Right, and that's what I meant. I'm not making an effort to be negative, but I just felt that I should point out how one player mimicking his real-life tendencies could easily be a coincidence, and that it's not tantamount to proof that most other players will do the same. This is an area in which 2K has struggled for a very long time, and I hope and pray, to anyone who will listen, that they'll improve this facet of 2K13, but I'd be cautiously enthusiastic until the game touches my hands.

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    • Goffs
      New Ork Giants
      • Feb 2003
      • 12278

      #62
      Re: New NBA 2K13 Video From Gamescom

      I'm seeing that half spin a bit much....is that triggered with turbo or done with the new control stick?

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      • Rockie_Fresh88
        Lockdown Defender
        • Oct 2011
        • 9621

        #63
        Re: New NBA 2K13 Video From Gamescom

        Originally posted by The_Throne2K11
        Another video i found for my OS peeps.. Yes they suck, but you see some nice animations mid video.

        <object width="560" height="315"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Wyo5T3dOvPU?version=3&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Wyo5T3dOvPU?version=3&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="560" height="315" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>
        This game looks so fun!
        #1 Laker fan
        First Team Defense !!!

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        • Vni
          Hall Of Fame
          • Sep 2011
          • 14833

          #64
          Re: New NBA 2K13 Video From Gamescom

          Originally posted by Goffs
          I'm seeing that half spin a bit much....is that triggered with turbo or done with the new control stick?
          Guessing it's turbo since we see it so much. Hope I'am wrong though.

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          • RyanFitzmagic
            MVP
            • Oct 2011
            • 1959

            #65
            Re: New NBA 2K13 Video From Gamescom

            Originally posted by The_Throne2K11
            Another video i found for my OS peeps.. Yes they suck, but you see some nice animations mid video.

            <object height="315" width="560">


            <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Wyo5T3dOvPU?version=3&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="315" width="560"></object>
            What happened at around 1:37? Westbrook and Chalmers didn't interact at all even though they were close enough to kiss.

            Love the fact that Westbrook gets bumped at 1:54 but keeps moving forward since he had the physical advantage regarding strength and momentum. Not sure how much of each one contributed to that result, but it's a very welcomed start.

            Also, I can already tell I might have to change Westbrook's dunk package. He has pretty much two non-fast break dunks he likes to do, and the dunk at 1:57 ain't one of em. lol.

            Nice emotion by Bosh at 2:18. Hope they'll be contextually appropriate (i.e., not getting fired up over a normal bucket).

            Nice mid-air flop layup by Harden at 2:32 (and again at 3:45). Hopefully wreckless players (using that term positively) like Westbrook, Wade, Harden, etc., will have those types of layups in their packages.

            Maybe it's just me, but I dislike how the ball kinda twists and spins over the lip of the rim as it goes in almost every time it's laid up from right under the basket.

            3:04, Perry Jones shoots a jumper and kinda stumbles as he comes back to the floor. Not sure if he was trying to follow his own shot or maybe it was a Dynamic Shot Generator animation. I liked it though.

            Glad to see Harden didn't get his head at the rim at 4:01 and 4:22, since he didn't have the proper momentum or hard gather to do so. We'll see with smaller players though-- players like Deron and Derrick Rose should have to really gather to get up the power to dunk in the half-court, since they won't have a running start.

            4:16, I think Battier tipped a pass from Chalmers while trying to catch it. It may have been a set animation, but if not, it was a good live ball scenario. Hopefully no more of those "Bobbled pass" animations.

            Looking good so far.
            Last edited by RyanFitzmagic; 08-24-2012, 05:54 PM.

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            • Eman5805
              MVP
              • Mar 2009
              • 3545

              #66
              Re: New NBA 2K13 Video From Gamescom

              You say they suck, but they weren't bad at all. Not perfect, no one of the guy must play the game with turbo held down at all times. But there's been FAR worse Gamescon vids.

              Did I just see D-Wade use the rim to shield a layup? I also like the smooth subtle bounce in people's step when they bring the ball up and even into the first initial crossover or two or when they come to a stop. Very nice. Also solid drive and dunk from Westbrook. It's early and the game is still close to no flashy **** back tomahawk, just throw it down with one hand.



              On an unrelated note, I don't know what YouTube or Flash did but it seems you can't go seamlessly from watching a video to typing a comment while the vid is paused or something. I should be able to switch what I'm giving commands to by clicking inside of a dialogue box, and not have the video switch to full screen or start or stop whenever I press the space bar.

              Looks like it's time to complain to somebody...

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              • stillfeelme
                MVP
                • Aug 2010
                • 2407

                #67
                Re: New NBA 2K13 Video From Gamescom

                2ND video looks good.

                Sig Skills count from 1st video


                Wade, LeBron have 5 are maxed out
                Chalmers 2
                Battier 3
                Bosh 1

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                • blues rocker
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 1921

                  #68
                  Re: New NBA 2K13 Video From Gamescom

                  Originally posted by The_Throne2K11
                  Another video i found for my OS peeps.. Yes they suck, but you see some nice animations mid video.

                  <object height="315" width="560">


                  <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Wyo5T3dOvPU?version=3&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="315" width="560"></object>
                  i really like what this video shows in terms of the improved quickness and responsiveness of the movements. compared to 2k12 the players in this vid just look and feel so much more explosive, and the movements feel much more fast-paced like a real nba game. passes look quicker, players change direction quicker, layups and dunks look quicker with less sluggish gathers. pretty much every type of movement looks quicker and more responsive than 2k12...seeing as unresponsive movement and sluggish animations were my biggest problem with 2k12, 2k13 should definitely be a step up for me.
                  Last edited by blues rocker; 08-24-2012, 06:17 PM.

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                  • stillfeelme
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 2407

                    #69
                    Re: New NBA 2K13 Video From Gamescom

                    Wow in that second video I have seen something that I have not seen before. 22 seconds into the game Ibaka tried to block the shot by Wade with two hands . Small little details like that are sick

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                    • jreezy18
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 340

                      #70
                      Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
                      Right, and that's what I meant. I'm not making an effort to be negative, but I just felt that I should point out how one player mimicking his real-life tendencies could easily be a coincidence, and that it's not tantamount to proof that most other players will do the same. This is an area in which 2K has struggled for a very long time, and I hope and pray, to anyone who will listen, that they'll improve this facet of 2K13, but I'd be cautiously enthusiastic until the game touches my hands.
                      Yeah I see your point. Getting overly optimistic has burned me in the past so I'll definitely keep my expectations in check.

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                      • JasonMartin
                        Pro
                        • May 2012
                        • 977

                        #71
                        Re: New NBA 2K13 Video From Gamescom

                        The way Haslem moves at 3:25, dribbling the ball so fluently, doing some kind of turn/spin move etc. Is that still realistic for a player like him, at his age? He isn't the player that dribbles much, 6 years ago yes but nowadays no way.

                        Maybe it something with the controls but I've seen it in a lot of clips where players turn their back and do these weird dribble/spin moves (everyone does/has the same move).

                        I'm talking about this video

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyo5T...ayer_embedded#!

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                        • VDusen04
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 13025

                          #72
                          Re: New NBA 2K13 Video From Gamescom

                          Originally posted by JasonMartin
                          The way Haslem moves at 3:25, dribbling the ball so fluently, doing some kind of turn/spin move etc. Is that still realistic for a player like him, at his age? He isn't the player that dribbles much, 6 years ago yes but nowadays no way.

                          Maybe it something with the controls but I've seen it in a lot of clips where players turn their back and do these weird dribble/spin moves (everyone does/has the same move).

                          I'm talking about this video

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyo5T...ayer_embedded#!
                          I think there's two parts to the answer of your question. First, when you ask, "Is that realistic for a player like him?", the short answer is no. If we were watching the Heat take on the Thunder again on ABC, Udonis Haslem wouldn't be caught dead free styling up the floor and throwing an overhead pass from half court (without looking) into a sea of defenders.

                          However, on the flip side, that player was user controlled, so Haslem's going to do whatever he wants as long as that person controlling him makes it so. Is it realistic for Ben Wallace to grab a rebound and shoot a full court with 8 minutes left in the 3rd quarter? No, but there's been times where I've accidentally made it happen because players attempt what my input tells them to, even if it doesn't make sense in terms of basketball strategy.

                          Now, if the question is whether Haslem is even capable of pulling off such moves, I'd give a resounding affirmation. He's 32 years old and he's not a basketball derelict. We don't see guys like Udonis Haslem handle the basketball much because it's not a terribly reliable team strategy when a team contains some of the best ball-handling guards in the world. However, it doesn't mean he literally cannot perform any more than a straight forward right-handed dribble. Even at the mid-sized high school I once played at, our gumpy big men could perform half-spins and painfully slow step-back cross dribbles if they had no one on them. And in the example you reference, no one was really guarding Haslem except for an equally spazzy (and user-controlled) Nick Collison, who more or less made two wild reaches and did not truly attempt to play defense, per se.
                          Last edited by VDusen04; 08-24-2012, 08:19 PM.

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                          • DukeC
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 5751

                            #73
                            Re: New NBA 2K13 Video From Gamescom

                            Originally posted by VDusen04
                            I think there's two parts to the answer of your question. First, when you ask, "Is that realistic for a player like him?", the short answer is no. If we were watching the Heat take on the Thunder again on ABC, Udonis Haslem wouldn't be caught dead free styling up the floor and throwing an overhead pass from half court (without looking) into a sea of defenders.

                            However, on the flip side, that player was user controlled, so Haslem's going to do whatever he wants as long as that person controlling him makes it so. Is it realistic for Ben Wallace to grab a rebound and shoot a full court with 8 minutes left in the 3rd quarter? No, but there's been times where I've accidentally made it happen because players attempt what my input tells them to, even if it doesn't make sense in terms of basketball strategy.

                            Now, if the question is whether Haslem is even capable of pulling off such moves, I'd give a resounding affirmation. He's 32 years old and he's not a basketball derelict. We don't see guys like Udonis Haslem handle the basketball much because it's not terribly reliable. However, it doesn't mean he literally cannot perform any more than a straight forward right-handed dribble. Even at the mid-sized high school I once played at, our gumpy big men could perform half-spins and painfully slow step-back cross dribbles if they had no one on them. And in the example you reference, no one was really guarding Haslem except for an equally spazzy (and user-controlled) Nick Collison, who more or less made two wild reaches and did not truly attempt to play defense, per se.
                            Exactly. Most Power Forwards in the NBA can dribble fairly well. It's just not a good idea because you have to get low to dribble effectively and big men tend to dribble the ball high...which is what you DON'T want to do against any defender, but especially one shorter than you. That's just asking for the ball to get stolen.

                            Now, if Nick Collison (user controlled) had been playing correct on-ball defense I'm sure Haslem (user controlled) would have coughed the ball up.
                            But, yeah, Big men can dribble. You can usually see it with the guys that primarily have a face up game. They only big men that don't have any sort of dribbling ability at all is usually Centers since they have a more back to the basket game (Demarcus Cousins being one of the rare exceptions. Boy does he love to dribble )

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                            • JasonMartin
                              Pro
                              • May 2012
                              • 977

                              #74
                              Re: New NBA 2K13 Video From Gamescom

                              Originally posted by VDusen04
                              However, on the flip side, that player was user controlled, so Haslem's going to do whatever he wants as long as that person controlling him makes it so.
                              I get that, but I hope the games discourages you to use the player in such a way. He just seemed too agile/fast for my liking. But I'm sure it will be fine because 2K12 had it right. Just looks unnatural.


                              00:48 kinda proves me wrong, but this was 6 years ago






                              Can someone tell me how to embed videos?

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                              • VDusen04
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 13025

                                #75
                                Re: New NBA 2K13 Video From Gamescom

                                Originally posted by JasonMartin
                                I get that, but I hope the games discourages you to use the player in such a way. He just seemed too agile/fast for my liking. But I'm sure it will be fine because 2K12 had it right. Just looks unnatural.


                                00:48 kinda proves me wrong, but this was 6 years ago






                                Can someone tell me how to embed videos?
                                I definitely see where you're coming from and as DukeC mentioned, if Haslem were being defended proper, either by a computer defender or by a user who was doing virtually anything besides quick-triggering the steal button with a power forward while not squared up to Haslem's dribble, it very well could have been trouble. When left to their own devices though, nearly every NBA player will be able to pull off their own set of ball-handling moves.

                                Also, to embed:

                                1) Click "Share" beneath your video (on the YouTube page)

                                2) Select the "Embed" button

                                3) An embedded code box will pop up highlighted in blue (multiple lines of text). I right click over it and select "Copy".

                                4) I then paste it into a post here.

                                5) I refresh my OS Forum page to make sure it's showing up correctly

                                <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/5Eu2NrAqQr4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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