nba 2k13 everything Defense

[Vni]

Re: nba 2k13 everything Defense

So do you mean soft edge on guys who MOSTLY drive the lane and hard edge on killer / spot up jump shooters?

What would you set up for Knicks?

JR Smith drives AND loves the 3

Melo is more of a jumpshot guy, but occasionally drives

Novak is a spot up guy

Chandler is a decent inside / mid range shooter, but doesn't shoot 3s?

White is a slasher, but doesn't play much

Kidd?

Etc.

I've been testing sliders / settings against them, so that's why I ask...

Thanks!

I'd play JR and Novak the same way I think. Tight on and off ball, over the screen hard edge. You could make a case to double JR on the p'n'r because he isn't a great passer. You could also try to deny pass on Novak.

Chandler isn't anything near close to a good mid range shooter so i'd just sag off of him.

Melo is tough. I guess in quick ranked games I would play him tight on and off the ball. I'd double him in the corners and in late shotclock situations.

Kid I would probably play him like Novak on casual settings. On hall of fame i'd give him space to let him take a few threes.

[JasonWilliams55]

Re: nba 2k13 everything Defense

@kingv2k3

Gortat shows a soft hedge in the vid below:

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Vid below; Watch when ball goes to Chalmers in the corner (0:04) Maxiell gives a hard hedge (to cut off Chalmers ability to go back towards half court/wing) Bosh slips and gets a slightly contested basket.

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Vid below; Novak with a hard hedge (and switch) to cut off any drive.

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Look at hedging like this (hedging only applies to the pickers defender):

• Soft = Step out (show presence) then back off/rotate back
• Hard = Double step out (force ball handler back) then rotate back
• Double = Double ball-handler on PnRs
• Auto = DAWR/CPU will decide on what the pickers defender does

[KingV2k3]

Re: nba 2k13 everything Defense

I'd play JR and Novak the same way I think. Tight on and off ball, over the screen hard edge. You could make a case to double JR on the p'n'r because he isn't a great passer. You could also try to deny pass on Novak.

Chandler isn't anything near close to a good mid range shooter so i'd just sag off of him.

Melo is tough. I guess in quick ranked games I would play him tight on and off the ball. I'd double him in the corners and in late shotclock situations.

Kid I would probably play him like Novak on casual settings. On hall of fame i'd give him space to let him take a few threes.

THANKS!

Next (last for now?) question:

My sliders for Help D for both HUM and CPU are at 75, with both DAWR @ 100 versus both OAWR at 50...

I HAD my coach profile set for Help D at 75, but recently moved it to 100 because it seemed that the rotation to a guy who got free of his man was lacking...

Is that the right way to make my Help better or am I actually making it worse by having them leave THEIR man?

Regards!

More:

Apologies for all the questions, but:

Where do I find the settings to "I'd double him in the corners and in late shotclock situations."

???

THXTHXTHX!

[KingV2k3]

Re: nba 2k13 everything Defense

@kingv2k3


Look at hedging like this (hedging only applies to the pickers defender):

• Soft = Step out (show presence) then back off/rotate back
• Hard = Double step out (force ball handler back) then rotate back
• Double = Double ball-handler on PnRs
• Auto = DAWR/CPU will decide on what the pickers defender does

THANKS WC!

[tetoleetd]

Re: nba 2k13 everything Defense

You're right. It's a shame that I only played against the Mavs once in 200+ games .

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ive played the mavs a decent amount, but i always quit when people pick the cheeser teams so i have a better variety.

its not just the people like dirk you should play tight on though. id play tight on bosh, ibaka, gasol and all the big men like them that can drain mid range.

[KingV2k3]

Re: nba 2k13 everything Defense

Anyone using the quick defensive options like concentrate on stars, close the paint, ect? Any comments on how these affect other coaching settings like help defense, p&r defense, how tight to defend a player, etc?

I just "found" and started to use these adjustments (Association versus CPU) and I'm curious how others use them...

Do you guys find any of them to be more effective then others, etc?

So far, I'm just kinda employing them as a one / two possession "change of pace" (like the rare times I use zone)...

So it's been kinda "random" and I'd love to get a better understanding of which options are best to employ when, etc.

Thanks!

[8KB24]

Re: nba 2k13 everything Defense

I just "found" and started to use these adjustments (Association versus CPU) and I'm curious how others use them...

Do you guys find any of them to be more effective then others, etc?

So far, I'm just kinda employing them as a one / two possession "change of pace" (like the rare times I use zone)...

So it's been kinda "random" and I'd love to get a better understanding of which options are best to employ when, etc.

Thanks!

First sorry for inaccurate names for adjustments. You'll figure it out.

If I go against a team loaded with shooter I put concentrate on shooters. When playing against Lakers I put Concentrate on stars.. It's all about opponent... If your opponent has Dwight's Magic ('09) type of players I put concentrate on shooters because Howard is one and shooters are 4. Against Thunder who have two players who WILL combine for 50 shots I put concentrate on stars. And when going against Twin Towers (Hawks, Spurs when running Duncan-Splitter combo, Grizzlies, Lakers sometimes) I put Protect the paint.. I think you understand the point.

[KingV2k3]

Re: nba 2k13 everything Defense

First sorry for inaccurate names for adjustments. You'll figure it out.

If I go against a team loaded with shooter I put concentrate on shooters. When playing against Lakers I put Concentrate on stars.. It's all about opponent... If your opponent has Dwight's Magic ('09) type of players I put concentrate on shooters because Howard is one and shooters are 4. Against Thunder who have two players who WILL combine for 50 shots I put concentrate on stars. And when going against Twin Towers (Hawks, Spurs when running Duncan-Splitter combo, Grizzlies, Lakers sometimes) I put Protect the paint.. I think you understand the point.

Do you find any of these to be super effective / not effective?

I usually go with "constant pressure" for a play or two or "pressure shooters"...

Like zone, the CPU seems "confused" for a play or two, then locks on to it and adjusts, so then I bail to another option or go back to "custom"...

"Stars" seem kinda risky, if it only applies to one or two guys on the floor at any given time...

[8KB24]

Re: nba 2k13 everything Defense

Do you find any of these to be super effective / not effective?

I usually go with "constant pressure" for a play or two or "pressure shooters"...

Like zone, the CPU seems "confused" for a play or two, then locks on to it and adjusts, so then I bail to another option or go back to "custom"...

"Stars" seem kinda risky, if it only applies to one or two guys on the floor at any given time...

I end up giving 35-43 FG%. Very low FG%. So it is effective but I adjust. If none of those work I just do custom adjustments (off ball pressure on shooters, hard hedge on bad shooters etc). It's all about adjusting on the fly.

''Stars'' is kinda risky but I'd rather leave Perkins wide open at mid range than Westbrook and Durant go on me one on one.

[KingV2k3]

Re: nba 2k13 everything Defense

I end up giving 35-43 FG%. Very low FG%. So it is effective but I adjust. If none of those work I just do custom adjustments (off ball pressure on shooters, hard hedge on bad shooters etc). It's all about adjusting on the fly.

''Stars'' is kinda risky but I'd rather leave Perkins wide open at mid range than Westbrook and Durant go on me one on one.

I use "soft hedge" on good outside shooters that could drive on me (tight on ball / double team "on drive") and use hard hedge to close out on spot up guys that aren't likely to drive / tight on ball / off ball (NYK Novak / MIA Allen, etc.)...

I've seen it done this way AND the opposite (like you described) and I'm not sure which is the "consensus"...

Thanks for the insight!

[Rockie_Fresh88]

Re: nba 2k13 everything Defense

1-3-1 + double team is killing me.

I can't play the post game at all without a turnover. And jumpers are so hit or miss.

Any tips?

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: nba 2k13 everything Defense

How does it make logical sense that a person moving back and forth at the 3PT line, breaking double teams, and shooting contested shots with Steph Curry can hit a higher percentage than a person who gets MOSTLY open looks?

This is when the defense fails in this game sometimes. Common sense says "That's his entire offense, so I should be able to get 10 blocks and shut it down.". The game says "Nope...Steph Curry has a high 3PT rating and hot zones, I'm going to make the ball clip your through hand on block attempts, and he's going to hit the shot when he gets a little bit of space. Plus if he does miss, David Lee or Andrew Bogut are going to get the offensive boards.".

[alabamarob]

Re: nba 2k13 everything Defense

Its very irritating but 90 percent of the people playing this game are running some sort of gimmick/trap defense. Even when they run man defense they trap and scramble around the court going for steals and blocks because of the recovery speed of the defenders.

Keep the floor spread, watch for cutters free throw line down and keep shooters in the corners. Passing more than 2 or 3 times against a trap zone in 2k13 is dangerous.

1-3-1 + double team is killing me.

I can't play the post game at all without a turnover. And jumpers are so hit or miss.

Any tips?

[Sundown]

How does it make logical sense that a person moving back and forth at the 3PT line, breaking double teams, and shooting contested shots with Steph Curry can hit a higher percentage than a person who gets MOSTLY open looks?

This is when the defense fails in this game sometimes. Common sense says "That's his entire offense, so I should be able to get 10 blocks and shut it down.". The game says "Nope...Steph Curry has a high 3PT rating and hot zones, I'm going to make the ball clip your through hand on block attempts, and he's going to hit the shot when he gets a little bit of space. Plus if he does mess, David Lee or Andrew Bogut are going to get the offensive boards.".

You sort of picked a bad example. Steph Curry actually does shoot unassisted off the dribble threes better than most do a set three. He takes a higher percentage of unassisted threes than anyone else and still manages to lead makes and be top three in accuracy. He is a completely unique player in that regard and there's a good article charting that.

He shouldn't be making or taking contested threes though. Most shouldn't either. It's his ball handling,quick release, and deadly off the dribble accuracy that lets him get an open shot potentially anytime.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: nba 2k13 everything Defense

You sort of picked a bad example. Steph Curry actually does shoot unassisted off the dribble threes better than most do a set three. He takes a higher percentage of unassisted threes than anyone else and still manages to lead makes and be top three in accuracy. He is a completely unique player in that regard and there's a good article charting that.

He shouldn't be making or taking contested threes though. Most shouldn't either. It's his ball handling,quick release, and deadly off the dribble accuracy that lets him get an open shot potentially anytime.

Nope...that's not true at all. I watched a lot of basketball in my time, and I have never seen a player keep the ball for an entire possession on every possession, dribble against the defense, and shoot an ungodly rate against well contested shots. It's one thing if he's making some dribbling moves, then he's pulling up for a jumper. It's whole different game when the player keeps dribbling and dribbling back and forth or breaking double teams consistently, then just pulls up for a jumper over a defender's hand like he's not even there on every single possession.

I don't know too many coaches who would tolerate that nonsense.

Even then, this is a videogame. I know my players' release points. I'm getting green releases, and I'm clanking left and right. There was no way he was getting "green" release, because he was shooting mostly contested shots. He was being rewarded for nonsense, while I was being penalized for playing smart basketball.