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  • BornBetter
    Rookie
    • Aug 2009
    • 245

    #76
    Re: Virtual Currency frustration

    Originally posted by MrBigShot1
    You simply don't get it....
    I know, I actually said that in my post.

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    • achieveduser
      Rookie
      • Jan 2011
      • 385

      #77
      The bigger picture I see here is called share holders. I think you and I live in very different world.

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      • BornBetter
        Rookie
        • Aug 2009
        • 245

        #78
        Re: Virtual Currency frustration

        Originally posted by achieveduser
        The bigger picture I see here is called share holders. I think you and I live in very different world.
        Then don't use your hard earned money to buy VC. Grind it out. It's that simple. Most games are going in this direction whether we like it or not.

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        • demfl
          Pro
          • Jun 2009
          • 585

          #79
          Re: Virtual Currency frustration

          Originally posted by BornBetter
          It doesn't make sense. But I think most of you are missing the bigger picture here. Obviously this system is creating a larger cashflow for 2K. Now what can be done with more money? Hire more developers! Heck, they can even use the extra money to entice better developers to come work on NBA2K14. Generally, ONE developer's salary is anywhere from 60-80k and upward a year... not very cheap. They can also afford to pay for better support for NBA2K13. Not just developers either, artists, sound guys, anyone who works on this game.
          Look at EA sports. Making lots of money doesn't necessarily mean better products. Sometimes making more money is just that, making more money. Instead of hiring more workers, people just get a bigger house and car.

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          • KBomber
            Pro
            • Nov 2003
            • 512

            #80
            Re: Virtual Currency frustration

            I think that the clothing is overpriced and I have to admit that the thing with the equipment, where you can buy it in the one store or go into the team store and buy it customized to your team is kinda low.

            If I buy a sleeve, I should be able to adjust it to team colours without having to spend more VC to buy a team specific sleeve, brace, etc. Not being able to adjust previously purchased equipment, THAT'S CRAP.

            I think these types of systems are okay if you can see a system that offers something reminiscent of fair value, but there is a thin line between that and straight exploitation.

            If you ask me, player attributes and animations seem underpriced and the clothing seems ridiculous. If you think about it another way, why would I want to spend ANY VC on off-court clothing? It's stupid...
            Basketball made me the man I am today; Arthritic and Bitter...

            What I think I think:
            • Y'know, I've never played less NBA 2K than I did with NBA 2K12
            • Sports VG titles were REALLY disappointing in 2011-12
            • Thank Heaven for ME3 and Arkham City -- saved my winter

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            • VDusen04
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2003
              • 13025

              #81
              Re: Virtual Currency frustration

              Originally posted by BornBetter
              It doesn't make sense. But I think most of you are missing the bigger picture here. Obviously this system is creating a larger cashflow for 2K. Now what can be done with more money? Hire more developers! Heck, they can even use the extra money to entice better developers to come work on NBA2K14. Generally, ONE developer's salary is anywhere from 60-80k and upward a year... not very cheap. They can also afford to pay for better support for NBA2K13. Not just developers either, artists, sound guys, anyone who works on this game. I made another thread earlier this week talking about how the developers only have one year to create these games. If you're a developer you know that one year to create a product like this is a pretty short amount of time, hence why we see so many bugs/glitches/aspects that are seemingly rushed into the game.

              You all want an improved product but you don't think about things such as what I just said. I can totally see how it's annoying to some and why people are frustrated but you have to look at the positive side of things sometimes. Most people come to this forum to COMPLAIN and that's it. But seriously, give what I just said some thought.
              The issue there, in my opinion, is two fold. One, I think there's ways 2K could earn more money that would not require changing NBA contracts to golden coins while disallowing the application of accessories. Two, there's no guarantee more money made by 2K is going to automatically equal out to more developers who will then make the product for which we all yearn. It could just as well equal out to signing a businessman, who made his riches largely in industries completely unrelated to anything athletic, to become executive producer of their basketball video game. Or it could go toward signing U2 to the soundtrack.

              Then again, as you mention, 2K could put their money toward more developers, who then in turn develop a 2K game completely based around a fictional currency that requires an online connection to experience even offline gaming modes to their fullest capacity and does not allow gamers to turn off the auto-save feature.
              Last edited by VDusen04; 10-05-2012, 01:53 PM.

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              • achieveduser
                Rookie
                • Jan 2011
                • 385

                #82
                Re: Virtual Currency frustration

                Originally posted by BornBetter
                Then don't use your hard earned money to buy VC. Grind it out. It's that simple. Most games are going in this direction whether we like it or not.
                The way VC implementation affects users are not just about money. I think you have very simple way of thinking. LOL.

                Maybe you have a really obedient personality. I don't know which one.

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                • Ken Griffery Jr.
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 86

                  #83
                  Re: Virtual Currency frustration

                  Originally posted by BornBetter
                  Then don't use your hard earned money to buy VC. Grind it out. It's that simple. Most games are going in this direction whether we like it or not.
                  A business that goes in the opposite direction that its customer base wants or demands is one headed towards bankruptcy.

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                  • BornBetter
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 245

                    #84
                    Re: Virtual Currency frustration

                    Originally posted by demfl
                    Look at EA sports. Making lots of money doesn't necessarily mean better products. Sometimes making more money is just that, making more money. Instead of hiring more workers, people just get a bigger house and car.
                    You make a valid point, but there is really only one way of combating this VC system. Don't buy any VC with real money. The fact is, people are lazy and would rather pay that $2.50 to get $10,000 VC. It's business, that is just the way it is and the only thing we can do about it is either not buy the VC or not buy the game anymore. Every year people find something to complain about, and every year they continue buying it. I'm sorry to say but you're just feeding the monster.

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                    • Necrosis
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 107

                      #85
                      Re: Virtual Currency frustration

                      I don't support this kind of business model but I don't think we should get our hopes up for a price reduction on all those accessories.(or being paid more VC for finishing a game)

                      The whole point of VC being cheap to buy and accessories being expensive is so that you spend money. If accessories prices were lowered people wouldn't be bothered to pay for VC since they can earn enough through playing the game.

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                      • BornBetter
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 245

                        #86
                        Re: Virtual Currency frustration

                        Originally posted by Ken Griffery Jr.
                        A business that goes in the opposite direction that its customer base wants or demands is one headed towards bankruptcy.
                        What the customer base wants or what you want? You do realize the customers on this forum make up a very small percentage of their customers right? Guess time will tell when NBA2K14 comes out and they either have or don't have the VC system.

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                        • Goffs
                          New Ork Giants
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 12278

                          #87
                          Re: Virtual Currency frustration

                          This is one thing I'm thankful that it didn't make it to the PC version. Funny thing is that its more suited in that platform since its littered with pay to win games.
                          Last edited by Goffs; 10-05-2012, 02:04 PM.

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                          • xxjustblazexx
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 91

                            #88
                            Re: Virtual Currency frustration

                            Originally posted by chrispaul33333
                            Stop whining.
                            Not at any point in this thread have i whined, i can live with losses, and in the same post you replied to i showed that i won.

                            Originally posted by Necrosis
                            I don't support this kind of business model but I don't think we should get our hopes up for a price reduction on all those accessories.(or being paid more VC for finishing a game)

                            The whole point of VC being cheap to buy and accessories being expensive is so that you spend money. If accessories prices were lowered people wouldn't be bothered to pay for VC since they can earn enough through playing the game.
                            Although i agree with you it is sad, i feel like 2k was perfect up until this point, they always seemed to care about the customer, listening to everything we say, but at this point they copped out and went the way of EA. To do anything more than basic you have to buy VC with real money or wait until september next year when you can legitimately afford it.
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                            • BornBetter
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 245

                              #89
                              Re: Virtual Currency frustration

                              Originally posted by xxjustblazexx
                              To do anything more than basic you have to buy VC with real money or wait until september next year when you can legitimately afford it.
                              Why not play the game and earn the VC? Isn't that why you bought the game in the first place, to PLAY it? I know that's why most people buy it and not to sit there and spend hours upon hours customizing crap and added arm sleeves and headbands.

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                              • xxjustblazexx
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 91

                                #90
                                Re: Virtual Currency frustration

                                Originally posted by BornBetter
                                Why not play the game and earn the VC? Isn't that why you bought the game in the first place, to PLAY it? I know that's why most people buy it and not to sit there and spend hours upon hours customizing crap and added arm sleeves and headbands.
                                I mean i have been playing it, it hasnt left my disk tray since i got it midnight on monday, the thing about it is my life time earnings of VC right now is about 15k. I play A LOT, i am in the 5th seed in MyTeam, im through about 30 games of MyPlayer and am in November in the association. The way VC is though i cant manage buying accessories, raising my stats AND buying stuff for MyTeam, you just dont make enough VC. Some people dont find dressing up your guy serious but i personally do, especially considering how MyPlayer faces are. But when you look at the STARS in the NBA they do dress up. Lebron always wears his headband and wristbands. Wade always has the elbow sleeve or elbow band. Melo always has his headband and sleeve on his left arm. And if you are talking about the sweaters off the court i have one name for you: Russell Westbrook.
                                GT- Rod Is Godly

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                                OKC Thunder
                                Seattle Seahawks
                                University of miami (college football)
                                University of louisville (college basketball)
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