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  • diehardknicksfan
    Rookie
    • Apr 2012
    • 264

    #166
    Re: Poll: Reach in fouls rate

    I love it, never change it. I can finally run plays and set up a half court offense. Dont have to worry about cp3 walking arou d smackin everyone *** hopeing the ball magically pops out.

    Get ur steals from passing lanes. Thats how i get mines. Rewd what your oppenents going to do. If you see zach randolph suddenly post up and the pg is in a position tomthrow a lobor bounce pass to him. Be ready to correcty time ur steal attempt. Thats how i get my steals. Intercepting bad balf court passes and occasionally playing off ball to guad certain perimeter players i think the guy is going to pass to next. I get around 5 steals a game with this method.

    Only time i reach in really is when the other team catches the rebound or their driving to the rim and i try to strip em.

    Its easy to get steals if you pay attention and read your opponent. But nobody people wants to use their brain and perfer to be ables to just smack the x over and over with out penaltybutton repeatedlly.

    Hope 2k never changes this

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    • rpandya97
      Rookie
      • Sep 2012
      • 14

      #167
      Re: Poll: Reach in fouls rate

      The reach-in fouls should be set as though to where they are more than pre-patch but way less than currently. One solution is that you always get hit by a reach-in foul if you are spamming the button, but if you are only occasionally pressing the button in situations where it would be right to do so (ex. you reach in when the opponent cross the ball over from left hand to right) then there should be no call and maybe even a steal if the timing and player's steal attributes are correct.

      Also another problem I felt that is not addressed is the offensive rebounding. Whenever I have played the game post-patch I feel like the opponent (normally CPU) have a "superhuman-like" advantage when playing me. They always seem to fly in and grab a rebound that should have been my player's. Also, when I played a game in Association mode, I was playing terrific defense, but the CPU's offensive rebounding was so overpowering that essentially all the points scored against me where second chance put back layups.


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      • tom615
        Rookie
        • Dec 2012
        • 3

        #168
        Re: Poll: Reach in fouls rate

        I want to vote!!!

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        • MjRocksTMan
          Just started!
          • Dec 2012
          • 1

          #169
          Re: Poll: Reach in fouls rate

          I think you should tone it down just a bit because when I reach for a steal I shouldn't get a foul called so just a bit. And then the game will be

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          • Jrocc23
            MVP
            • May 2010
            • 3207

            #170
            I don't have a problem with it. The only problem I have is with my cpu reaching too much and getting hit with fouls. It's not as egregious as people are posting, but my cpu does get hit with a couple fouls offline and online a little too much. Other than that, the reaching is fine.


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            • ryantheplague
              Rookie
              • Oct 2012
              • 386

              #171
              Re: Poll: Reach in fouls rate

              Originally posted by Merv82
              How about you play your own defense instead of "the cpu is just swatting at everything and getting into the penalty?"
              nice try but i'm talking about opposing teams getting in to foul trouble in an unrealistic way.
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              • Vni
                Hall Of Fame
                • Sep 2011
                • 14833

                #172
                Re: Poll: Reach in fouls rate

                Oh while you're at it, reduce the CPU tendencies for reaching. It reaches at the most stupid moments and gets you in trouble. I don't understand why AI controlled teamates would reach on their own anyway.

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                • sword1986
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1041

                  #173
                  Re: Poll: Reach in fouls rate

                  How about letting the ratings matter so not everyone can get a steal? Why even have a player with 99 Steal if he is going to get caught with a reach. Tune the penalty toward the rating, not just overall. I can see Kris Humphries getting a reach in call everytime he tried swiping at the ball, but CP3? Come on. That's basketball. There needs to be disparity between the ratings.

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                  • VDusen04
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 13031

                    #174
                    Re: Poll: Reach in fouls rate

                    Originally posted by IYoDa
                    poll should of been between offline and online.
                    I'm not sure if two separate polls were necessary, but I do agree there should most definitely be a distinction between online and offline here. In my offline gaming experiences, it seems I've been able to create a realistic number of steals while also being a victim to a realistic number of steals and steal attempts. The few times I went online though, steals seemed to go crazy (particularly in 2K12).

                    Playing against another human and playing against the computer seem to be two different beasts altogether and I'm not sure they should be treated as the same.

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                    • JasonWilliams55
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 2045

                      #175
                      Re: Poll: Reach in fouls rate

                      Use timing on steals, watch the pulsating circle under your player to time the steal.

                      Don't steal while a player is moving unless you have the angle.

                      Play defense with your feet instead of your hands.

                      Ratings do matter all ready, just cause you reach in at in-opportune times and get called for a reach doesn't mean that it needs to be fixed, fix yourself first. A 99 should not get you a steal every time you reach in every circumstance. Also having a 99 should not mean that you don't get called for fouls, if you reach at a bad time it should be a foul regardless of rating.

                      CPU reaches because their tendencies dictate that, do you seriously just want them to stand there and do nothing? Peeps have no problem when their CPU tendencies get a steal or a block for them, but a reach foul is too much. (Now I do agree that the default tends are jacked and that reaching fouls should be tuned ever so slightly down but no where near where it used to be)
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                      • spankdatazz22
                        All Star
                        • May 2003
                        • 6219

                        #176
                        Re: Poll: Reach in fouls rate

                        I don't have much to add to the conversation but did want to say: I don't play online much. But one of the reasons is because of the way some people choose to play, being able to have success constantly hacking at the ball. I hadn't played online in more than a month until yesterday. I played with Boston, other guy ran with Chicago. Don't know what his record was but he did some match up stuff on the intial screen and nothing else. Turns out his strategy was to play 2-3 zone all game and constantly attempt to steal anything that went inside, using Noah to trap/kill anything that got past the steal attempts. He also attempted to steal anything in the open court now that I think about it. I ended up winning by 21 I think.

                        The foul disparity was ridiculous. I had 37 foul attempts to his 3. THIRTY-SEVEN. And I only shot 75% or so from the line. He never stopped attempting to steal as his whole game seemed predicated on getting them and/or frustrating me. I started to pause the game at one point because it was just SO constant. Because of all the fouls, the game seemed to last forever. But he never stopped trying. And to his credit, he didn't quit.

                        This change does make me much more willing to play online. With that said, I do think it's a on the excessive side where even offline you get called immediately after making an attempt. And some on OS seem more obsessed with the "Sim" label than enjoyment of the game itself. The whole "I only play HoF and [this/that/and the other] is broken" is tiring to read - too many people aren't honest with themselves in that they really want to be playing a Default or Casual mode game, not on Sim mode. I would prefer it stay the way than go back to what it was, for sure. But does seem like it's a fine line for 2K to walk given the game's increasing popularity.

                        (I LOVE the left trigger defend btw - just had to add that)
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                        • Vni
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 14833

                          #177
                          Re: Poll: Reach in fouls rate

                          Originally posted by JasonWilliams55
                          CPU reaches because their tendencies dictate that, do you seriously just want them to stand there and do nothing? Peeps have no problem when their CPU tendencies get a steal or a block for them, but a reach foul is too much. (Now I do agree that the default tends are jacked and that reaching fouls should be tuned ever so slightly down but no where near where it used to be)
                          Actually yes. As long as the CPU as 0 awareness as to when actually reach. If I'am defending the ball in the post, and I don't ask for a double team, it's the first quarter, I don't want a guy with one foul already to come and do some lazy reach that NEVER actually works just so I have to sub him out.

                          Or it's also pretty annoying when it puts the other team in the bonus in clutch time.

                          I personnaly reach 0% of the time when defending the ball, I don't want the CPU to do it. That's all.

                          Originally posted by spankdatazz22
                          (I LOVE the left trigger defend btw - just had to add that)
                          You know that's made for the casual right?
                          Last edited by Vni; 12-02-2012, 01:27 PM.

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                          • cdy_whi
                            Just started!
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 1

                            #178
                            Re: Poll: Reach in fouls rate

                            i think the reach in foul should defiantly be lowered because now everytime you reach in it is almost always a foul. with the reach in foul rate as it is now there is no point of having pick pocket and active hands cause everytime you reach in its a foul

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                            • sword1986
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 1041

                              #179
                              Re: Poll: Reach in fouls rate

                              2K Sports, if you have a problem with the reach in fouls online, switch the sliders for Quick Match games to SIMULATION.

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                              • JAEViBE
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 75

                                #180
                                Re: Poll: Reach in fouls rate

                                The sliders need to be adjusted but only slightly, for the most part I like it.
                                It stops a lot of cheesy button mashers, swapping at the ball just for the sake of it, and getting called for not having good position.

                                If they could drop it just a little then is would be nice, I hate that I get good position and still get called for a foul. There's no "grey area" so to speak its either a steal or a foul.

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