Do you play ON-BALL DEFENSE? Say why or why not

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  • tetoleetd
    MVP
    • Jul 2011
    • 1151

    #16
    Re: Do you play ON-BALL DEFENSE? Say why or why not

    i play on ball D the majority of the time. when i play against the CPU i always play on ball. online against human opponents i play on ball unless forced to go to my backup defense(2-3 zone). if forced to play 2-3, i will control one of the wings.

    my reasoning for playing on ball D is simple. i dont trust the cpu to defend for me. they always leave too much room for someone to pull up in their face and even when they do contest a shot well, it still goes in a lot. i just think on ball defense is more effective, more fun and more realistic. and once you get the hang of it, its really not as hard as a lot of people on here make it out to be.

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    • capitolrf
      Rookie
      • Jan 2012
      • 354

      #17
      Re: Do you play ON-BALL DEFENSE? Say why or why not

      On-ball all day the CPU is the easiest to score on, no matter what level you play they fall for any up & under move, or pump fake then shoot animation. If I see someone play off-ball on me I immediately take them into the post. I only go off-ball during pick & roll situations, as I wait till see if my CPU teammate will switch or stay with his man, then go right back to checking the ball handler. If i'm not feeling lazy I usually go in the defensive setting & switch everything, so I can just check the ball handler at all times.

      The key to playing off-ball defense is shading the player towards the help defense and try to cut off the opposite angle. If a player is on the wing, I'm shading towards the middle of the lane to force him to go into the middle where the help is waiting, then my job is to cut off the base line. Most guys don't think that way and constantly moving the guy around, till he's out of position. It works offline & online against CPU or User.

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      • j3nkins29
        Pro
        • Oct 2010
        • 686

        #18
        Re: Do you play ON-BALL DEFENSE? Say why or why not

        I consider myself a sim player so I definitely always play on the ball. I could never see myself playing offball. I don't really trust the cpu to defend for me, and atleast if I make a mistake it is on me and not the cpu. I find it sort of unfair when people play offball and let the cpu defend. For instance playing someone on hall of fame and having them let the cpu guard you when they are almost telepathic on that difficulty is not right. I feel like it is me vs. you so why are u letting the cpu do the defense for you. So I always play on ball even though defense lacks behind offense in nba 2k. The defense needs to be thoroughly improved in nba 2k14.

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        • AiRJorDan23
          Rookie
          • Aug 2010
          • 171

          #19
          Re: Do you play ON-BALL DEFENSE? Say why or why not

          I play on-ball but there are times when you have to switch off-ball to put your help defender in the right place. Hate when i force my opponent to the baseline and the help defense is late.

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          • Jrocc23
            MVP
            • May 2010
            • 3207

            #20
            Yes, for a couple of reasons. One is because I can't simply just watch the CPU play my defense. My opponent wants to play me, not the CPU. He can do that offline.

            Like others said, it's much more rewarding locking down someone instead of letting the CPU do it while I camp on someone else. It's just what I am used to in any sports game trying to user everything.

            If I can tell someone is playing offball D,
            I am going to punish the CPU in the post especially if I am playing with Kobe. Just don't understand how people just sit there watching the CPU play their D.


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            • xxedgexx
              Rookie
              • Nov 2011
              • 106

              #21
              Re: Do you play ON-BALL DEFENSE? Say why or why not

              Originally posted by Jrocc23
              Yes, for a couple of reasons. One is because I can't simply just watch the CPU play my defense. My opponent wants to play me, not the CPU. He can do that offline.

              Like others said, it's much more rewarding locking down someone instead of letting the CPU do it while I camp on someone else. It's just what I am used to in any sports game trying user everything.


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              This is my reason as well. I play on-ball 80% of the time according to the VIP stats.

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              • Ramboooo
                Banned
                • Oct 2011
                • 695

                #22
                Re: Do you play ON-BALL DEFENSE? Say why or why not

                1. Couldn't care less if you play off-ball or on-ball
                2. I'm not switching players every 3 seconds just to appease you
                3. 1vs1 doesn't = 1vs1. It means 2 users controlling 5 players each
                4. Sometimes I want to use Scottie Pippen and only Scottie Pippen
                5. Sometimes I want to use Sefolosha and only Sefolosha
                6. Sometimes I like ice cream, sometimes I like cake
                7. If you want to force people to play on-ball D or get annoyed when people don't, nba 2k has included that option for you -- play teamup and blacktop.

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                • xKINGxSCOTTx
                  Rookie
                  • May 2013
                  • 93

                  #23
                  Re: Do you play ON-BALL DEFENSE? Say why or why not

                  Originally posted by Ramboooo
                  1. Couldn't care less if you play off-ball or on-ball
                  2. I'm not switching players every 3 seconds just to appease you
                  3. 1vs1 doesn't = 1vs1. It means 2 users controlling 5 players each
                  4. Sometimes I want to use Scottie Pippen and only Scottie Pippen
                  5. Sometimes I want to use Sefolosha and only Sefolosha
                  6. Sometimes I like ice cream, sometimes I like cake
                  7. If you want to force people to play on-ball D or get annoyed when people don't, nba 2k has included that option for you -- play teamup and blacktop.
                  I don't think any of us have bashed no on ball users... The question is why do u, or don't u..... We get you like to play off ball but why? I find it a disadvantage to play off ball unless u really can't contain ur man then I understand fully

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                  • alabamarob
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3340

                    #24
                    Re: Do you play ON-BALL DEFENSE? Say why or why not

                    I never run zone under any circumstances, and I play on or off ball depending on the situation and the player. If someone is a dribble heavy or iso heavy player then I will discourage the isolation by bringing a big over to the strong side of the floor and guard home plate. If someone runs alot of plays, or is using a weak ball handler then I try to play tight on ball to disrupt the offense.

                    Versitility is the key to a good defense.

                    Originally posted by EarvGotti
                    In the next week or so, I am going to be putting together a tips/tutorial video on how to play on-ball defense and why it is effective. But first I wanted to see what is it about playing on ball that gives people the most trouble.

                    When playing online, it is good to mix in some zone and offball here and there depending on how your opponent plays. But IMHO, playing onball is the most effective way to defend shots and it is more fun than sitting back offball. 2K also confirmed that user controlled defense gives an added percentage in successfully defending the shot.

                    Do you primarily play onball? Why or why not?
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                    • thedream2k13
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 1507

                      #25
                      Re: Do you play ON-BALL DEFENSE? Say why or why not

                      Originally posted by xKINGxSCOTTx
                      Just to add I play with always contest and 100 CPU assist... It seems to give me better contact animations like stoping dribble and on the spin Layups... Takes alittle to get use to cus u don't have full control all the time... It makes u a tad slower however like when a pump fake comes or they dribble side to side and back again to hit mid range or 3s but most u can still contest well... Plus my defense I rather a jumps hit over anything close so it does what works for me.... If u can hit constantly u can beat me but I'm not letting someone drive allday with easy shots
                      Wow that's sad and depressing that the CPU is doing 100% of the work for u!
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                      • cesnakas
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 26

                        #26
                        Re: Do you play ON-BALL DEFENSE? Say why or why not

                        On ball and only on ball. Makes me much more manly that those "off ball,worst offensive player" guys.

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                        • Optik
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 1025

                          #27
                          Re: Do you play ON-BALL DEFENSE? Say why or why not

                          Originally posted by cesnakas
                          On ball and only on ball. Makes me much more manly that those "off ball,worst offensive player" guys.

                          Real.


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                          • thedream2k13
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 1507

                            #28
                            Re: Do you play ON-BALL DEFENSE? Say why or why not

                            i play mostly on ball but its a serious disadvantage when ballhandlers dont have footplanting and i slide around like i am skating every time they run side to side
                            #SIMNATION

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                            • xKINGxSCOTTx
                              Rookie
                              • May 2013
                              • 93

                              #29
                              Re: Do you play ON-BALL DEFENSE? Say why or why not

                              Originally posted by thedream2k13
                              i play mostly on ball but its a serious disadvantage when ballhandlers dont have footplanting and i slide around like i am skating every time they run side to side
                              Coming from the guy who makes fun of me using 100% CPU assist so I don't skate lol but ur cooler atleast my guys plant there feet

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                              • xKINGxSCOTTx
                                Rookie
                                • May 2013
                                • 93

                                #30
                                Re: Do you play ON-BALL DEFENSE? Say why or why not

                                Originally posted by thedream2k13
                                Wow that's sad and depressing that the CPU is doing 100% of the work for u!
                                And I'd like to add most ppl care using 50% cpu assist and auto contest on intense d.. Seeing as that's how it comes if u don't adjust it

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