NBA 2K14 - What the 2K Team-Up Members Thought of the New Blocking System

[mango_prom]

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Was that the "great news for the sim community" already? I mean what does "balancing" even mean in this context? The best way to "balance" would be to make it more difficult to drive all the way to the basket in the first place. That's much more important than flashy monster blocks.

Give me 2k11s contact animations around the rim with maybe better help defense and increased odds of losing the ball in traffic and by spamming dribble moves and I'm perfectly happy. But blocks as the biggest feature? Come on.

[Da_Czar]

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Some are worse than others. Shake4ndBake sounds like a major shill. IPC sounded a bit more subdued and rational.

"We played for an hour and saw sooo many blocked dunks, each one could go on YouTube."

That seriously worries me.

It should really be one blocked dunk in several hours of (realistic) play, not the other way around.

It completely depends on how they were playing. IF they were even sim gamers doesn't it ? IF your playing against a guy constantly trying to dunk if your constantly challenging those shots there is going to be more opportunities for blocked dunks and therefore more blocked dunks.

And it's ALL blocks.. It is a new block system not just a new dunk block system. Not as many balls floating through hands etc. ( note I did not say it never happens)

I play a sim style I wasn't seeing several block dunks every game I played but I wasn't playing user vs user. I was playing vs the AI and playing my style. So it wasn't overpowered in the least to me. But when you play online vs a different type of player it could be drastically different.

Listen there are some FANTASTIC contextual dunks that make you feel like YES get that **** out of here.

DISCLAIMER: I played an earlier version of the game maybe things have changed drastically since I played maybe you can now block shots from the bench I have no clue just giving my impression on what I actually saw in a certain point in time.

[Da_Czar]

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Was that the "great news for the sim community" already? I mean what does "balancing" even mean in this context? The best way to "balance" would be to make it more difficult to drive all the way to the basket in the first place. That's much more important than flashy monster blocks.

Give me 2k11s contact animations around the rim with maybe better help defense and increased odds of losing the ball in traffic and by spamming dribble moves and I'm perfectly happy. But blocks as the biggest feature? Come on.

The only thing I saw LD2K and Ronnie tweet yesterday was that there would be a "small" gameplay announcement tomorrow. Not sure where you got that bolded part from. If they actually said that then I agree with you but all I heard was "small" gameplay announcement. Not a great sim feature

[LD2k]

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The only thing I saw LD2K and Ronnie tweet yesterday was that there would be a "small" gameplay announcement tomorrow. Not sure where you got that bolded part from. If they actually said that then I agree with you but all I heard was "small" gameplay announcement. Not a great sim feature

People quote me on everything I didn't say all the time.

Then they yell at me... over Crews and stuff.

[Sundown]

It completely depends on how they were playing. IF they were even sim gamers doesn't it ? IF your playing against a guy constantly trying to dunk if your constantly challenging those shots there is going to be more opportunities for blocked dunks and therefore more blocked dunks.

And it's ALL blocks.. It is a new block system not just a new dunk block system. Not as many balls floating through hands etc. ( note I did not say it never happens)

I play a sim style I wasn't seeing several block dunks every game I played but I wasn't playing user vs user. I was playing vs the AI and playing my style. So it wasn't overpowered in the least to me. But when you play online vs a different type of player it could be drastically different.

Listen there are some FANTASTIC contextual dunks that make you feel like YES get that **** out of here.

DISCLAIMER: I played an earlier version of the game maybe things have changed drastically since I played maybe you can now block shots from the bench I have no clue just giving my impression on what I actually saw in a certain point in time.

That's good that the game feels right to a sim player. And I guess reckless dunking leading to blocked dunks is a sim-like result, though I'd think it should result in layup attempts and realistic animations like years past.

What I'd like to know is how to be aggressive without dunking in 2k14, and whether contested attacks at the rim go into layup animations more often than not.. If the game tends to force you into dunks with guys who have Posterizer and high dunk ratings, and they get sent away at the rim regularly due to the new engine, that will still be more dunks than is realistic.

I hope the results will be dependent on the sim settings: casual/default should equal more dunk attempts and blocked dunks. Sim settings should equal less dunk attempts, more contest dunks turning into layups or missed dunks, with the rare spectacular blocked dunk.

Anyway, glad for the new block engine regardless. Andrew Bogut will actually e fearsome now.

[vannwolfhawk]

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I miss the dev insights! I loved reading those blogs with all the detailed information!

[Sundown]

I miss the dev insights! I loved reading those blogs with all the detailed information!

Are we even getting dev insights this year? And bummer team up guys didn't get to play next gen version. I wonder how much gameplay base they share.

[vannwolfhawk]

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Are we even getting dev insights this year? And bummer team up guys didn't get to play next gen version. I wonder how much gameplay base they share.

I have no idea. If I had to guess I'd say no. Wasn't last year quick videos?

[ForeverVersatile]

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Honestly all this team up junk has me less excited about the game as I was previous years. News on a new blocking system should've been included in an overall impressions video or in a defense dev insight with video included. We aren't all kids we can retain information..So give us info worth opening up my web browser, YouTube or twitter for.

[Gramps91]

Not to be negative but one of my main concerns is this being overpowered.

yea, I have this concern as well. However, I'm going to remain positive as 2k is so good at making a basketball sim. Still remaining cautious though.

[Caveman24]

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I'm excited this can happen. Not how often I can tell it's going too happen. For those who have league pass or watch basketball religiously know this doesn't happen that often. It should happen during the game yes but it shouldn't be an selling point IMHO. The way all these guys seemed excited about seems like it happened very often. Hopefully we can tone it down will see good work.

[vannwolfhawk]

Re: NBA 2K14 - What the 2K Team-Up Members Thought of the New Blocking System

Honestly all this team up junk has me less excited about the game as I was previous years. News on a new blocking system should've been included in an overall impressions video or in a defense dev insight with video included. We aren't all kids we can retain information..So give us info worth opening up my web browser, YouTube or twitter for.

I think what's annoying about this is its being force fed to us and they are basically making us watch these videos to learn about things in the game. I never go on you tube and watch any videos. I don't know who any of these guys were before I went to team up last year. They were all cool guys and all, but I'd rather read a developer blog or insight. I feel like I wasted 30 minutes of my life listening to 6 guys saying the same thing hoping I'd hear some different take or breakdown of it! Lol

[LD2k]

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I think what's annoying about this is its being force fed to us and they are basically making us watch these videos to learn about things in the game. I never go on you tube and watch any videos. I don't know who any of these guys were before I went to team up last year. They were all cool guys and all, but I'd rather read a developer blog or insight. I feel like I wasted 30 minutes of my life listening to 6 guys saying the same thing hoping I'd hear some different take or breakdown of it! Lol

Stuff is coming.

[VDusen04]

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I miss the dev insights! I loved reading those blogs with all the detailed information!

I'm with you one thousand billion kajillion percent. All new information is cool and I welcome the news on the block system, but random folk chatting on YouTube with little substance just does not do it for me (no disrespect to those folks). As such, I do not watch those videos.

I definitely miss the detailed write ups, particularly when they were supplemented with a video. It was sweet when we got this: http://www.operationsports.com/featu...t-10-controls/

Excerpt:

We tightened up a number of other aspects of dribbling: cuts, stops, etc. Collectively, these changes have made a significant improvement to the overall feel that we think you guys will appreciate. But the last thing I want to mention about the dribbler is this idea of explosiveness. The dribbler in NBA2K11 was smooth… almost too smooth. One of the things that separate a great ball handler from a poor one in the NBA, is the ability to change speeds on a dime. So when a Derrick Rose or Chris Paul takes you off the dribble with their first step, they don’t slowly accelerate… they explode off the bounce with a blur. In NBA2K12, we added a number of new dribble moves and launches that bring this aspect of real life dribbling into our game. For example, if you perform a size up, hesitation, or stepback move, you can quickly move the left stick in one of four directions to queue up an explosive first step:

Toward the ball hand = Go move launch
Toward the off hand, but more toward the basket = Crossover launch
Toward the off hand, directly across the body = Behind the Back launch
Toward the off hand, but more away from the basket = Spin launch

And/or this to drive the point home:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/Zp7mZxzuc68" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I'm actually having a tough time remembering how things worked last year. It felt like it was a lot more social media based and dumbed down, but perhaps I just do not remember well. I'm just hoping to harken back to the detailed insights of yesteryear.

[scottyp180]

I think what's annoying about this is its being force fed to us and they are basically making us watch these videos to learn about things in the game. I never go on you tube and watch any videos. I don't know who any of these guys were before I went to team up last year. They were all cool guys and all, but I'd rather read a developer blog or insight. I feel like I wasted 30 minutes of my life listening to 6 guys saying the same thing hoping I'd hear some different take or breakdown of it! Lol

No one is forcing you to watch the videos, it is your choice. I watched the first video and stopped but it doesnt sound like they are revealing anymore details other then: you can block dunks, the ball shouldnt warp through hands, the ball is more live this year. If you dont like the team-up community "news" then just wait until websites release their previews. Its still early august so expect to see a lot more news, and at least one trailer, in the coming weeks. My guess would be that we will see some news before gamescom and then get some gameplay videos of people demoing the game from gamescom.