WIll 2k14 require a brain to play online?

[stillfeelme]

Re: WIll 2k14 require a brain to play online?

From my games that I've played, this has been the most competitive NBA 2K title in the series IMO. It's very balanced.

Cool,

Competitive as in stick skills, NBA knowledge, strategy chess match? Balance seems to be the theme

[ataman5]

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From my games that I've played, this has been the most competitive NBA 2K title in the series IMO. It's very balanced.

It's always nice to see you on board Chris. Keep up the good work with Ron.

I really am on the hype wagon, bcs this wagon is not about all those cheesy features we've heard over the years but it's about as you've implied about things based on vocabulary choices like "BALANCED" which is what we want like we had in NBA 2K11 and better.

[rockchisler]

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nah this board is full of cheesers... cant find anyone that plays sims to play online with me..

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...es-thread.html

Because you are looking in the wrong place.. Go here ^^^^^^^^

[EarvGotti]

Re: WIll 2k14 require a brain to play online?

It's the same thing every year. No matter how balanced the game is, people will always find a way to cheat and cheese. It's human nature. Most people get rich by cheating and screwing people over. Online gaming is no different.

With that said, all I want is 2k to give online leagues more tools. A working website where we can write articles, upload highlights etc. Give us an online association that mimics offline associations and where games dont drop. If we had these, we would never need to play ranked because we'd be so engulfed in the league and have a great sim group of 30 players.

Also, an idea for the future. Maybe add the ability to create communities like Madden. I expect this to be the norm on Next Gen Chris.

[Seidowskyy]

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lol @ this post.

there are sim heads, there are cheeseballs.

not everyone, wants to have a simulation style game, not everyone wants to be bum rushed by lebron.

I thought 2k13 was balanced early (ran with 76ers) and played very well vs teams like knicks, clippers heat...UNTIL everyone found out the top money plays, like hawk rev entry and double drag.

that is where this game(13) is separated imo.

stick skill, wasnt too much of a thing 2k13, Ive tipped multiple passes with a lower tier team, and never really got the ball back, or of course, it would coincidentally bounce off a players foot and actually be called a kick ball.

If in 2k14, I use say, the rockets, and can guard lebron all game, 1 on 1 without em morphing thru my on ball defense , ill be satisfied if i play good d, and dont get shook.

[Seidowskyy]

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and people crying abt the 131 ..

horns plays will do the trick 90% of the time, the problem lasts with plays breaking too early.

or too much.

grant it, 131 shouldnt be spammed like it is, but the user who uses it isnt punished enough, realistically he shouldnt be able to guard both baselines if he stays with his center, but if he has stick skill and can switch fast, might have a problem. but theres a counter for everything, just feel as if people tend to complain first, before they try to stop something.

[sreckless]

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and people crying abt the 131 ..

horns plays will do the trick 90% of the time, the problem lasts with plays breaking too early.

or too much.

grant it, 131 shouldnt be spammed like it is, but the user who uses it isnt punished enough, realistically he shouldnt be able to guard both baselines if he stays with his center, but if he has stick skill and can switch fast, might have a problem. but theres a counter for everything, just feel as if people tend to complain first, before they try to stop something.

I think the issue with zone defense is that most users (95 percent, conservatively) are SO bad at man-to-man defense that any zone, as long as they stand relatively near the glowing blue circle, will improve their team defense dramatically. So dramatically that it can feel like a cheat.

Most users are just hopelessly horrible at playing on-ball man-to-man defense -- they pressure too much, reach too much, fiddle with the stick too much. They can't defend the point of attack to save their lives, and if they go off ball they just get lost.

So while I agree that zone defense isn't unrealistically unbeatable, IMHO it mostly just detracts from the game experience, because people use it as a crutch instead of learning the game and directly addressing their defensive deficiencies.

[thedream2k13]

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I just want zones to do what's intended! 2-3 should be for guarding the rim but leaves open 3's. In 2k13 you guard everything while sitting in a zone because defensive recovery is to fast

[TUSS11]

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I just want zones to do what's intended! 2-3 should be for guarding the rim but leaves open 3's. In 2k13 you guard everything while sitting in a zone because defensive recovery is to fast

And the offensive A.I. is absolutely stupid. They cut when they're open on the perimeter, and they stand still when the back door is completely open. Oh yeah, and the majority of passes are overhead passes with overhead catches. Hot mess.

[Seidowskyy]

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lol @ this post.

there are sim heads, there are cheeseballs.

not everyone, wants to have a simulation style game, not everyone wants to be bum rushed by lebron.

I thought 2k13 was balanced early (ran with 76ers) and played very well vs teams like knicks, clippers heat...UNTIL everyone found out the top money plays, like hawk rev entry and double drag.

that is where this game(13) is separated imo.

stick skill, wasnt too much of a thing 2k13, Ive tipped multiple passes with a lower tier team, and never really got the ball back, or of course, it would coincidentally bounce off a players foot and actually be called a kick ball.

If in 2k14, I use say, the rockets, and can guard lebron all game, 1 on 1 without em morphing thru my on ball defense , ill be satisfied if i play good d, and dont get shook.

I just want zones to do what's intended! 2-3 should be for guarding the rim but leaves open 3's. In 2k13 you guard everything while sitting in a zone because defensive recovery is to fast

You cant break the 2-3?

i have 2 ways of doing so, calling iso, and getting to tthe middle area between the pg and sg , driving, do a half spin, its the best iso move in the gm imo, and you drive, d collapses, hit for 3 bang bang.

another thing i do is run horns dbl drag and try for the stand dunk, or jumper off the pick, but the goat way to beat 2 -3 is pass it to the stand dunker and both sides in the back of the 2-3 collapse to the paint, the user physically can not close out fast enough, all you have to do is pass to which side your best shooter is on.

[ksuttonjr76]

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Offense has never been the problem for me in NBA 2K13. I can run a pretty efficient offense and maintain 50% shooting. It's the defense that is complete garbage. It burns me up how a player can spin or pass into the paint to score 85% of their points from there, but I can't register ONE block with a 7'2" center.

[LD2k]

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but I can't register ONE block with a 7'2" center.

You will REALLY love NBA 2K14's blocking system. Defense is critical in NBA 2K14 and the last line of defense is simply awesome.

[arimamba]

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You will REALLY love NBA 2K14's blocking system. Defense is critical in NBA 2K14 and the last line of defense is simply awesome.

i want to ask you Chris, why do you think happened that we were not able to block dunk on 2k13? did the devs forgot? or what was it?

[benson_bone]

Re: WIll 2k14 require a brain to play online?

You will REALLY love NBA 2K14's blocking system. Defense is critical in NBA 2K14 and the last line of defense is simply awesome.

I'll go ahead and be optimistic and believe you. That being said, anybody who wants to create a defensive shotblocker at some point during 2k14 lifespan should probably do it at the start. You already know that all the turbo contact dunk/layup lebron, jordan, rose, etc. type cheesers are going to be complaining about it and since, in my experience, this particular demographic contains about 90% of myteam and blacktop players 2k will most likely listen and lower block success in the first patch.

Other than that, i hope defensive recovery won't be superhuman anymore and offensively i just want better spacing and ai. Also when i'm playing on ball defense and i manage to stay in front of lebron i don't want him to slip by or bump off me. I want to see him get an offensive foul, which is the only realistic scenario when an offensive player runs into/over a defensive player who is in position. And rebounding should be mostly based on rebounding attributes not vertical.

Finally, if 90% of my shots are WIDE OPEN A-rated shots/layups and 90% of my opponent's shots are CONTESTED layups/dunks/jumpshots we shouldn't have the same fg% at the end of the game. Hell my opponent often finishes with a higher fg% after this type of game. This makes no sense at all.

Anyway my guess would be online will be fun the first month maybe the first two, until the cheesers find out new ways to exploit the game. So to answer the question in the topic title, i doubt it will require a brain after the first month or so.

[Sundown]

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I spoke with LD2K about the online difficulty, and he said that they are trying to make it where its on a higher difficulty but are getting resistance to the idea.

I brought up the idea of custom matchmaking, he agreed to the idea in general, but really couldn't go any farther into it, they have had the idea before, but resource allocation just wasn't/isn't there.

Resistance from whom? Marketing schlubs? They ruin everything.

Easy-Cheese-Mode basically makes online nearly unplayable.

It's insane that the team spends so much effort trying to replicate nuanced, realistic basketball, and then it's gimped in the knee with crap settings and cheese moves that renders all that effort pointless.

Most of the devs pour their love into this product, yet someone or someones are committed to crap basketball in the mode that would best showcase all their work and where game designs are most harshly evaluated and scrutinized. That's crazy.