Thoughts on NBA 2K14 Pick and Roll Improvements (Da_Czar)

[JasonWilliams55]

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This is how you hype a game for OSers!

P.S:
With what appears to be an overall improved defense (P/R, on ball and rotation), lets try and get the newer defensive schemes in for 2k15
Sorry, had to, hehehe.

Edit:
Ah, vannwolfhawk, you beat me to it, as I said above, we need more distinct defenses, maybe for 15 we can get something alike the one you described and be able to assign it on a team per team case.
Anyways, am hyped.

Fixed 1st bolded part.

2nd bolded part; I sent in this request to Beluba in December and got a reply that it was perfect timing... so hopefully its in this year CG and NG.

[ffaacc03]

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Fixed 1st bolded part.

2nd bolded part; I sent in this request to Beluba in December and got a reply that it was perfect timing... so hopefully its in this year CG and NG.

1. Indeed but I kind of feel that given how many hardcore/sim guys were not noticing the game improvements with what was released, videos such as this, that compare and detail what is new/improved, can also hype casuals whom tend to not notice such things even more.


2. Hopefully, we need to further distinct teams and to be able to edit, assign and customize it can only be positive.

P.S:
Posted on PS4 thread.

[JasonWilliams55]

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1. Indeed but I kind of feel that given how many hardcore/sim guys were not noticing the game improvements with what was released, videos such as this, that compare and detail what is new/improved, can also hype casuals whom tend to not notice such things even more.

2. Hopefully, we need to further distinct teams and to be able to edit, assign and customize it can only be positive.

P.S:
Posted on PS4 thread.

They are not hardcore ballers if they didn't notice this... unfortunately alot of fake simheads on here. As for casuals, they still wouldn't know what he is talking about anyways.

[kevmasood]

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Sellaz 87 roster and Rays 80's volume 3 I believe were in that video. I probably have the names a little off but they are all in OS Roster forum.

The second time , I watched it iwas like, look at the old skool players on the court, just downloaded that RayRay roster yesterday, on point, GREAT WORK on the pick n roll #PREZ

[Vni]

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That's a PC roster right?

[Sinner]

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They are not hardcore ballers if they didn't notice this... unfortunately alot of fake simheads on here. As for casuals, they still wouldn't know what he is talking about anyways.

Have no problem admitting i'm not a hardcore baller and of course totally missed that..love watching basketball and try to play as sim as possible and even i'm excited now that it's been pointed out for me in that vid. Lol nice work Czar

[Da_Czar]

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That's a PC roster right?

No sir. Xbox 360 rosters! Guys release some nice ones late in the year once all the tools become available.

[raiderphantom]

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Pick and roll spacing was nearly flawless in 2K11, can't they just copy from that game? I don't know anything about writing code, but this is a huge part of gameplay. Honestly, it just sounds like this issue was neglected too much.

[Da_Czar]

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Have no problem admitting i'm not a hardcore baller and of course totally missed that..love watching basketball and try to play as sim as possible and even i'm excited now that it's been pointed out for me in that vid. Lol nice work Czar

Sinner you are exactly my intended target audience. If we as a community can help you and others build an appetite and appreciation for these kinds of additions. We grow our influence and in my mind our ability to get more things like this added.

Don't get me wrong I love preaching to the choir as it were. LOL, but the point is to grow and educate the community so that we have MORE people joining in the movement to make these games more realistic.

[blues rocker]

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good video, Czar.

[shegotgame]

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Excellent breakdown Czar. Thank you.

[Danbo80]

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Great vid as always czar. Glad to see 2k did'nt mail it in on current Gen.
Now, if only we could get those knicks jerseys the right shade of blue.

[CR2]

Great analysis. I've been disappointed with the underwhelming reported improvements to Association mode so far, but these pick and roll improvements alone make NBA 2K14 worth the purchase.

[yungsta404]

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so glad all the unnecessary offball movement is gone.

2k13 is probably one of the worst 2ks of all time in terms of spacing. The amount of times players would cut and run right into the defense and get in your way was staggering . That is what lead to the zone and double cheese being so effective and overpowered. You could double and triple team people and no1 would be open.

[raiderphantom]

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On a side coaching note: in a spread PNR situation like this I always have the weak side corner defender in strong help side defense taking away the PNR. I never understood having top defender helping leaving the wide open 3. If you can contain the ball handler from getting into the paint or to the baseline that skip pass from 1 side of the court to the opposite corner is nearly impossible to make. And if it is made plenty of time for a good close out. But that's just my defensive philosophy...

Yep. I'll even bring the strong side defender in the corner if the strong side is overloaded. I can always drag the defender on the wing over to the corner and get a decent close out back to the wing as long as you anticipate. 1-4 pick and rolls are too easy to defend if their center can't stretch the floor at all.