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  • nogster
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    • Mar 2006
    • 3833

    #496
    Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

    I have to chip in on this. Because from this post, its clear to me that rashidi doesnt know as much about the "game" of NBA2K10 than he does the NBA.


    I have Lmao why bother when my coach profiles and tendencies are just as good, if not more detailed."
    This is the 1st season you have actually bothered to even do them. previous years you simply did the ratings, totally ignoring what IMO is critical and even more important than the ratings in getting a good single player game out of NBA2K.
    I would say this year you are probably more detailed because all i really concentrate on is the shooting tendencies as well as other issues that the gameplay bought up that tendencies could fix. and leave the rest default. You seem to have gone further than that. but still dont get it. I i will explain.

    Trajan's Dirk Nowitzki
    Inside 87 (up from 33) - lmao wutttt? that's 13 less than he gave dwight howard.

    The D.Howard thing im not sure of. as I have him at 100. Must be a mistranslation. anyway. you put dirk in the 30's in this tendency, clearly showing to me that you have little understanding what this would actually mean to the gameplay when the cpu is controlling Dirk.
    You are just looking at the hotzones and calculating that because he takes fewer shots from inside you must show this in his 2K tendencies.
    However. within the structure of the videogame what this causes is Dirk to lack scoring aggression under the hoop and hardly go up to score when he gets the ball inside. instead he will pass it out or move outside dribbling the ball. Something I noticed straight away with this game that needed adjusting and a pure example of why hotzones are not gospel in translating tendencies to a videogame engine.

    Close 67 (up from 62) - rofl in a seaso
    n where he took 100 fewer shots he went up?
    Probably a little too high, but the reason for this is again to make sure Dirk is willing to score. Hotzones are fine as a guide but the math doesnt equate good enough within the context of the videogame.

    Mid 62 (up from 58) - dirk's most common shooting zone is THIRD on Trajan's roster

    absolutely nothing wrong with this. Dirk will shoot regular J's. any higher and he will start rushing shots and taking ill advised jumpers. Just because its 3rd in the tendnecy list, doesnt mean he will take more shots elsewhere.
    You have forgotten about the Hotspots player edits in the game. Dirk would roam around mid and outside more than inside so naturally he will get more shooting opportunities from mid.
    3pt 20 (up from 18) - shot less than ever but he went up. kay
    .
    Well you are just being a prick here as a 2pt raise is insignificant. Anything under 20 for dirk and he wont take em consistently if its available. Again Hotspots play a role here. Dirk doesnt hang out on the perimeter as much as previous years. so the opportunities to shoot em are not there as much.
    Attack 97 (up from 40)
    PassOut 3 (down from 18) - Pretty damn low for one of the best bigman passers in the league.
    Here is more glaring evidence that you seem to be ignorant as to what this means within the gameplay.
    Everyone here will remember how prepatch every cpu player would kick it out when driving. it was a ridiculous constant flaw in the game. I made these adjustments to counter that. When the patches fixed this issue somewhat. I kept the numbers the same as they work. You think Dirk will drive and kick if he can go up himself? the man is 7ft with hands, Its pretty rare that he will dish it out when he go up himself or draw the foul. Besides, even a player with a 100-0 attack/passout tendencies will still pass it out sometimes when covered. its coded in the game. You are just being pedantic.

    D-Foul 55 - Good luck getting realistic FTA
    C-Foul 24 - Likewise
    Another nitpick that just show ignorance of the game.

    Okay. the 55 foul thing. fair enough. I didnt even look at that stuff. left it default.
    but the commitfoul nitpick.
    Tsk....tsk...Rashidi.
    That tendency makes no difference to in game fouling. If it does, its certainly not noticeable enough to worry about.
    BUT, It makes a HUGE difference to simmed fouls per game, which makes a HUGE difference to the players MPG, which makes a HUGE difference to a players simmed stats.
    Anything over 40 in this tendency causes the said player to lose 5 or more MPG that you allocate them in rotations.
    Big difference to the simulation aspect of NBA2K, which is important and critical for authenticity for sim gamers.

    So dont come here and be an all high and mighty nitpicker when there is reason and logic behind what you are picking at.
    You know a lot about editing ratings, and you know you NBA. but when it comes to the translation to actual videogame. Your methods are not the be all and end all.
    Last edited by nogster; 04-25-2010, 03:57 AM.

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    • Jukeman
      Showtime
      • Aug 2005
      • 10955

      #497
      Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

      IDK Nog,

      Ive tried every 360 roster on this site...

      his rosters gave me the best gameplay(default sliders)

      I've seen less forced shots inside the paint and more shots off dribble, runners, leaners, fadeways, breakdowns...Overall it was a better game

      Oh, Im not taking sides here..Im just saying...

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      • nogster
        MVP
        • Mar 2006
        • 3833

        #498
        Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

        fair enough jukeman.

        In regards to your post.
        I've seen less forced shots inside the paint and more shots off dribble, runners, leaners, fadeways, breakdowns...Overall it was a better game
        Forced shots in the paint have never been an issue for me in 2k10. On the contrary, I adjusted all teams "inside shooting" coach profiles to 75 so that the team would generally be more aggressive in going up inside, instead of annoyingly passing out when they had the opportunity to finish under the hoop or get the foul.
        In the NBA forced inside shots are commonplace.


        shots off dribble [pullups], Leaners, fadeways, runners and breakdowns[size up & isolation], well they are all adjustable tendencies. I didnt adjust this part of players generally speaking. I left most of them default.
        If Rashidi did make increases to these tendencies for players, cool. that is why you are seeing them more often.
        If he didnt, well then its a placebo effect. as adjusting these tendencies are the only way to get them more frequently.
        Last edited by nogster; 04-25-2010, 01:31 AM.

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        • wrestlinggod1
          MVP
          • Jan 2008
          • 2490

          #499
          Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

          The ONLY reason why I'm not using Nogster, Trajan, or Rashidi's rosters is because they don't have that update for the color of headbands and shoes that 2K released.
          #HeatNation
          #HeatLifer

          Go MIAMI Teams!!

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          • Real2KInsider
            MVP
            • Dec 2003
            • 4658

            #500
            Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

            Originally posted by nogster
            I have to chip in on this. Because from this post, its clear to me that rashidi doesnt know as much about the "game" of NBA2K10 than he does the NBA.
            Oh boy, here we go.

            This is the 1st season you have actually bothered to even do them.
            Excuse me sir, but that is flat out wrong. I have edited player tendencies ever since they were instituted, and you can check my guides for proof.

            previous years you simply did the ratings, totally ignoring what IMO is critical and even more important than the ratings in getting a good single player game out of NBA2K.
            WRONGWRONGWRONG, but please, continue.



            Trajan's Dirk Nowitzki


            However. within the structure of the videogame what this causes is Dirk to lack scoring aggression under the hoop and hardly go up to score when he gets the ball inside. instead he will pass it out or move outside dribbling the ball. Something I noticed straight away with this game that needed adjusting and a pure example of why hotzones are not gospel in translating tendencies to a videogame engine.

            We would appear to have fundamental differences then, because Dirk doesn't go up inside very frequently in real life.

            THE DIRK FACTS
            Inside: Took 311 shots
            Games: Played 82 games (3.79 shots per game)
            Minutes: Played 3039 minutes (0.102 shots per minute)

            Why would this player have scoring aggression under the hoop when he doesn't have it in real life? You do realize a decent amount of these are open layups (such as on the fastbreak), and that the game will not turn those opportunities down, right?


            Probably a little too high, but the reason for this is again to make sure Dirk is willing to score. Hotzones are fine as a guide but the math doesnt equate good enough within the context of the videogame.
            Another nitpick that just show ignorance of the game.
            Tsk....tsk...Rashidi.
            That tendency makes no difference to in game fouling. If it does, its certainly not noticeable enough to worry about.[/quote]

            Far be it from me to question the great and mighty Nogster's knowledge of NBA 2K, but my played games were generating more fouls even before I started adjusting the Draw Foul tendency. Generally, most starters are far too low. Tayshaun Prince has C-Foul of 7. Try drawing a foul on him. Tsk tsk yourself.

            BUT, It makes a HUGE difference to simmed fouls per game, which makes a HUGE difference to the players MPG, which makes a HUGE difference to a players simmed stats.
            Anything over 40 in this tendency causes the said player to lose 5 or more MPG that you allocate them in rotations.

            Big difference to the simulation aspect of NBA2K, which is important and critical for authenticity for sim gamers.
            Hah. The funny thing to me is this game butchers stats for backups so either way it's not going to be realistic.

            So dont come here and be an all high and mighty nitpicker when there is reason and logic behind what you are picking at.
            You know a lot about editing ratings, and you know you NBA. but when it comes to the translation to actual videogame. Your methods are not the be all and end all.
            Speak for yourself.

            EDIT: And don't worry, I'll be running a comparison of these two rosters soon enough.
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            • Real2KInsider
              MVP
              • Dec 2003
              • 4658

              #501
              Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

              Originally posted by TrajanLK121
              STFU. I went out of my way to ask for your permission and I never once took any credit for the work and I stoled your ratings uh? If you call that stealing, you can kiss my kleptomaniac *** you prick.

              When are you going to get it through your thick skull that your roster is not good enough as is for everybody? If it was, I wouldn't have wasted my time mixing it up.
              Hey *******, did you ever use my roster to confirm your crackpot theory? Or did you just HEAR that my ratings were good and that you wanted to combine them with other people's work and hope for the best?
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              • Real2KInsider
                MVP
                • Dec 2003
                • 4658

                #502
                Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

                I'm running a CPU game w/ this roster. I'm 6 minutes in. Here are the stats.

                Spurs 17, Mavericks 17 (after 6 minutes?)
                Spurs 8-15 FG (53%), Mavericks 8-14 FG (57%)
                Spurs 1-2 3PT, Mavericks 0-2 3PT
                Spurs 0-0 FT, Mavericks 1-1 FT
                Spurs 6 assists, Mavericks 5 assists
                Spurs 0 turnovers, Mavericks 0 turnovers
                Spurs 1 foul, Mavericks 0 fouls
                Spurs 5 reb (0 off), Mavericks 7 reb (1 off)
                Spurs 0 steals, Mavericks 0 steals
                Spurs 0 blocks, Mavierkcs 1 block
                Spurs 12 PIP, Mavericks 14 PIP

                Spurs
                Hill: 7 pts (3-5 FG, 1-2 3PT)
                Duncan: 6 pts (3-4 FG)
                McDyess: 2 pts (1-2 FG)
                Parker: 2 pts (1-4 FG) - why is he starting?
                Jefferson: 0 pts (0-0 FG)

                Mavericks
                Marion: 6 pts (3-3 FG)
                Haywood: 5 pts (2-4 FG, 1-1 FT) - why is he starting?
                Butler: 2 pts (1-5 FG, 0-2 3PT)
                Dirk: 2 pts (1-1 FG) - 12 shots for the above 3 players.
                Kidd: 2 pts (1-1 FG)

                Let's keep going.

                Oh yeah, for reference, the Mavs and Spurs are both 6-9 in the paint so far. Through 6 minutes.
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                • Real2KInsider
                  MVP
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 4658

                  #503
                  Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

                  End of the first quarter.

                  Spurs 35, Mavericks 33
                  Spurs 16-27 FG (59%), Mavericks 15-27 FG (55%)
                  Spurs 3-4 3PT, Mavericks 0-4 3PT
                  Spurs 0-0 FT, Mavericks 3-3 FT
                  Spurs 11 assists, Mavericks 6 assists
                  Spurs 1 turnovers, Mavericks 0 turnovers
                  Spurs 2 fouls, Mavericks 0 fouls (both fouls on Duncan)
                  Spurs 10 reb (1 off), Mavericks 11 reb (3 off)
                  Spurs 0 steals, Mavericks 0 steals
                  Spurs 0 blocks, Mavierkcs 2 blocks
                  Spurs 20 PIP, Mavericks 24 PIP

                  For those w/ Math skillz, 10 of Spurs 16 FG were Paint, while 12 of Mavs 15 FG were paint.

                  Spurs
                  Duncan: 10 pts (5-8 FG)
                  Hill: 9 pts (4-6 FG, 1-2 3PT)
                  Parker: 4 pts (2-6 FG)
                  Bogans: 3 pts (1-1 FG, 1-1 3PT)
                  Boner: 3 pts (1-1 FG, 1-1 3PT)
                  Blair: 2 pts (1-2 FG)
                  McDyess: 2 pts (1-2 FG)
                  Ginobili: 2 pts (1-1 FG)
                  Jefferson: 0 pts (0-0 FG) - 10 minutes

                  Mavericks
                  Dirk: 8 pts (4-6 FG)
                  Marion: 6 pts (3-3 FG)
                  Haywood: 5 pts (2-4 FG, 1-1 FT)
                  Butler: 4 pts (2-7 FG, 0-3 3PT) - He takes 2 threes per game. Not 3 per quarter.
                  Kidd: 4 pts (2-4 FG, 0-1 3PT)
                  Dampier: 4 pts (1-1 FG, 2-2 FT)
                  Najera: 2 pts (1-1 FG)
                  Terry: 0 pts (0-1 FG)
                  Barea: 0 pts (0-0 FG)

                  How did Dirk score?
                  Post fade on McDyess (Close)
                  Post hook on Blair (Close)
                  Open 17 footer (Mid)
                  Iso layup on Bonner (Inside)

                  Sadly, my game crashed because I went to check the stats during end of quarter highlight reels. Pity.
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                  • Real2KInsider
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                    • Dec 2003
                    • 4658

                    #504
                    Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

                    Now, some of Rashidi's roster. First 6 minutes.

                    Spurs 15, Mavs 10 - Now THAT'S more like it.
                    Spurs 6-11 FG (54%), Mavs 3-8 FG (37%)
                    Spurs 1-4 3PT, Mavs 0-0
                    Spurs 2-2 FT, Mavs 4-4 FT
                    Spurs 3 assists, Mavs 1 assist
                    Spurs 0 turnovers, Mavs 2 turnovers
                    Spurs 3 fouls, Mavs 2 fouls
                    Spurs 5 rebs (1 off), Mavs 4 rebs (1 off)
                    Spurs 2 steals, Mavs 0 steals
                    Spurs 0 blocks, Mavs 0 blocks
                    Spurs 2 PIP, Mavs 2 PIP

                    Spurs
                    Ginobili: 4 pts (2-3 FG)
                    Hill: 4 pts (2-2 FG)
                    Duncan: 2 pts (1-1 FG) - just picked up his 2nd foul
                    Bonner: 3 pts (1-2 FG)
                    McDyess: 0 pts (0-1 FG)
                    Blair: 0 pts (0-0 FG) - 1 min
                    Jefferson: 0 pts (0-2 FG, 0-2 3PT) - holy crap you mean he can take shots?

                    Mavs
                    Kidd: 4 pts (2-3 FG)
                    Dirk: 4 pts (1-2 FG, 2-2 FT)
                    Butler: 2 pts (0-2 FG, 2-2 FT)
                    Dampier: 0 pts (0-0 FG)
                    Marion: 0 pts (0-1 FG)
                    Haywood: 0 pts (0-0 FG) - 1 min

                    Moving along!
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                    • Ninja Tactic
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 1482

                      #505
                      Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

                      nice comparison thus far

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                      • Real2KInsider
                        MVP
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 4658

                        #506
                        Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

                        Spurs 27, Mavs 22 - Combined 49 points. Trajan's roster? 68 points.
                        Spurs 12-20 FG (60%), Mavs 6-17 FG (35%) - this happens in the NBA.
                        Spurs 1-4 3PT, Mavs 0-4
                        Spurs 2-4 FT, Mavs 10-11 FT - READ IT AND WEEP!
                        Spurs 7 assists, Mavs 3 assist
                        Spurs 2 turnovers, Mavs 2 turnovers
                        Spurs 7 fouls, Mavs 3 fouls - Combined 10 fouls. Trajan's roster? 2 fouls.
                        Spurs 5 rebs (1 off), Mavs 4 rebs (1 off)
                        Spurs 2 steals, Mavs 1 steals
                        Spurs 0 blocks, Mavs 1 blocks
                        Spurs 8 PIP, Mavs 8 PIP

                        Spurs
                        Ginobili: 6 pts (3-5 FG)
                        Bonner: 5 pts (2-3 FG, 1-2 3PT)
                        Hill: 4 pts (2-4 FG)
                        Jefferson: 4 pts (2-4 FG, 0-2 3PT) - 10 mins (2 fouls)
                        Duncan: 4 pts (1-1 FG, 2-2 FT) - 6 mins (2 fouls)
                        Mahinmi: 2 pts (1-1 FG) - 3 mins (no idea why he checked in for Blair, 1st time ever)
                        McDyess: 0 pts (0-1 FG) - 4 mins
                        Blair: 0 pts (0-0 FG, 0-2 FT) - 4 min
                        Parker: 0 pts (0-0 FG) - 3 mins
                        Bogans: 0 pts (0-0 FG) - 3 mins
                        Mason: 0 pts (0-0 FG) - 1 min

                        Mavs
                        Terry: 7 pts (2-3 FG, 0-1 3PT, 3-3 FT) - 3 mins
                        Dirk: 4 pts (1-3 FG, 2-2 FT)
                        Kidd: 4 pts (2-5 FG, 0-2 3PT)
                        Butler: 4 pts (0-4 FG, 0-1 3PT, 4-4 FT) - admit it. you're jealous.
                        Dampier: 0 pts (0-0 FG)
                        Marion: 0 pts (0-1 FG)
                        Haywood: 3 pts (1-1 FG, 1-2 FT) - 1 min


                        Let's keep going with this one. I want to see if Mahinmi gets more burn. He checked in when RJ picked up his 2nd foul (and Duncan already in foul trouble) which you'd think is a coincidence given that they don't play the same position. We'll see. For the record, Duncan/Blair/Mahinmi are the C while McDyess & Bonner are the PF.

                        Hate me all you want. Call me ignorant. Tell me I'm oblivious to the game mechanics. Steal from me.

                        At the end of the day, I'm the one whose getting results.
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                        • Ninja Tactic
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                          • Nov 2009
                          • 1482

                          #507
                          Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

                          POST A SPREADSHEET lol i need a good game i hate how the 2k default roster are

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                          • Real2KInsider
                            MVP
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 4658

                            #508
                            Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

                            Spurs 115, Mavs 121
                            Spurs 47-85 FG (55%), Mavs 47-80 FG (58%)
                            Spurs 8-18 3PT, Mavs 7-19
                            Spurs 13-17 FT, Mavs 20-24 FT - Combined 41 FTA
                            Spurs 25 assists, Mavs 22 assists
                            Spurs 6 turnovers, Mavs 6 turnovers
                            Spurs 15 fouls, Mavs 13 fouls - Combined 28 fouls.
                            Spurs 32 rebs (2 off), Mavs 36 rebs (3 off)
                            Spurs 5 steals, Mavs 4 steals
                            Spurs 0 blocks, Mavs 4 blocks
                            Spurs 44 PIP, Mavs 50 PIP (Spurs: 22 of 47 FG; Mavs: 25 of 47 FG)

                            Guess whose roster had more fouls despite fewer PIP?

                            Spurs
                            Ginobili: 31 pts, 2 reb, 3 ast (12-20 FG, 4-5 3PT, 3-4 FT) - 3 fouls, 41 mins
                            Duncan: 20 pts, 9 reb, 3 ast (8-13 FG, 4-4 FT) - 3 fouls, 34 mins
                            Parker: 17 pts, 1 reb, 7 ast (8-15 FG, 0-1 3PT, 1-1 FT) - 2 fouls, 30 mins
                            McDyess: 12 pts, 3 reb, 3 ast, 2 stl (5-6 FG, 2-2 FT) - 0 fouls, 26 mins
                            Jefferson: 8 pts, 2 reb, 2 ast, 1 stl (4-9 FG, 0-2 3PT) - 3 fouls, 28 mins
                            Mason: 7 pts, 1 reb, 2 ast (2-5 FG, 1-3 3PT, 2-2 FT) - 0 fouls, 8 mins
                            Bogans: 6 pts, 1 reb (2-5 FG, 2-4 3PT) - 2 fouls, 16 mins
                            Bonner: 5 pts, 8 reb (2-5 FG, 1-3 3PT) - 2 fouls, 23 mins
                            Hill: 6 pts, 1 reb, 3 ast, 2 stl (3-5 FG) - 0 fouls, 23 mins
                            Mahinmi: 2 pts (1-1 FG) - 0 fouls, 3 mins (never checked back in)
                            Blair: 1 pts, 4 reb, 2 ast (0-1 FG, 1-4 FT) - 0 fouls, 12 mins

                            Mavs
                            Butler: 29 pts, 3 reb, 4 ast, 2 stl, 1 blk (10-17 FG, 1-4 3PT, 8-9 FT) - 2 fouls, 40 mins
                            Kidd: 24 pts, 5 reb, 3 ast (10-18 FG, 4-8 3PT) - 2 fouls, 39 mins
                            Terry: 18 pts, 2 ast (6-11 FG, 1-5 3PT, 5-6 FT) - 0 fouls, 18 mins
                            Haywood: 15 pts, 5 reb, 1 blk (7-8 FG, 1-2 FT) - 2 fouls, 21 mins
                            Dirk: 12 pts, 9 reb, 10 ast, 2 stl (5-11 FG, 2-2 FT) - 1 fouls, 39 mins
                            Dampier: 9 pts, 13 reb, 1 blk (3-4 FG, 3-4 FT) - 3 fouls, 36 mins
                            Marion: 9 pts, 1 reb, 1 ast, 1 blk (4-6 FG, 1-1 FT) - 2 fouls, 35 mins
                            Barea: 5 pts, 1 ast (2-4 FG, 1-1 3PT) - 1 foul, 12 mins
                            Stevenson: 0 pts, 1 ast (0-1 FG, 0-1 3PT) - 0 fouls, 4 mins

                            You know what's beautiful? These games happen in real life. Dirk was doubled all game and Butler/Kidd made the Spurs pay. Kidd also got hot in the 3rd quarter because the PF/C decided to guard him on the perimeter. Let's go for a shot breakdown.

                            Kidd points
                            Comes up court, nobody picks him up, steps into open 15 footer.
                            Dirk doubled, kicks to Kidd for open 22 footer.
                            Dirk doubled, kicks to Kidd for open 3pt.
                            Dirk doubled, kicks to Stevenson in corner, swings back to Kidd for open 3pt.
                            Hill aggressive defense, Kidd loses him on crossover for 6 ft floater.
                            Dirk doubled, kicks to Kidd for open 3pt.
                            Kidd guarded by Duncan, dribbles by for 15 foot elbow jumper
                            Bonner can't get over high screen, open 22 footer.
                            High screen again, Parker cant get over, Duncan rotates late, open 22 footer same spot
                            Dirk doubled, kicks to Kidd for open 3pt.

                            Ony one of Kidd's shots came in the paint.

                            Dirk's points
                            Postup over Bonner (Close)
                            Barea drive around Parker, dish to cutting Dirk (Inside)
                            Open drive w/ Ginobili trailing (Inside)
                            Catch/Shoot 20 footer, Bonner not aggressive enough (Mid)
                            Open 10 footer (Close)

                            2 Inside shots to 1 Mid shot. That's with the 33 Inside tendency, mind you.


                            Butler's points
                            Fastbreak dunk
                            Basket cut w/Duncan covering, didn't recover in time (2 FG & 8 pts through 2 qtrs)
                            Contested 3pt w/ 1 second on shot clock
                            Open catch/shoot 20 footer, Manu lost him (4 FG & 16 pts through 3 qtrs)
                            Loses Jefferson on pick by Dirk, driving layup on RJ
                            Same play, blocking foul by RJ and one
                            Post fade on Ginobili
                            Dirk doubled, open 21 footer for Butler
                            Dirk sets screen but Butler pulls up over Hill for 21 footer
                            Catch/shoot 19 footer w/ shotclock running down (over Hill again)

                            Haywood pts - 4 of his 7 FG were postups on Parker/Hill. Another was - you guessed it - an open layup courtesy of a Dirk double team. If anyone knows how to get the C and PG to not mix up their defensive assignments I would love to hear it, because this is quite frankly the most annoying part of 2K10 to me, and it hurts the stats as Kidd also abused the bigs when this happened. Sure, mismatches happen in real life, but AFTER a screen or something that forces the defense to switch.

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                            Sorry kids, but if there's anything "clear", it's that you obviously haven't been paying attention. Trajan's rosters are a joke and if nothing else are CLEARLY incompatible with nogster's tendencies. Whether that's Nogster's fault or not has yet to be determined, and frankly, I don't care. These rosters give me a bad name which is why I didn't want my name associated with the product in the first place.

                            Thanks for not proving me wrong.
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                            • wrestlinggod1
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 2490

                              #509
                              Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

                              Hey Rashidi. What do you think of Neon's roster?
                              #HeatNation
                              #HeatLifer

                              Go MIAMI Teams!!

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                              • nogster
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 3833

                                #510
                                Re: Nogster's Roster 2.0 for 360 *RELEASED*

                                this obsession to prove your superiority by spending all this time watching and posting biased recaps is pretty embarrasing really.
                                Im sure I could watch a game with your roster and pick it apart while writing a glowing recap of mine.
                                But why would I do that? What would it prove other than me being an egotistical prick.

                                Besides you only watched 1 quarter odd of trajan's. lol... really fair and objective comparison.

                                Im watching a SPURS-MAVS game [pro, default sliders, fouls] and im seeing no issue.

                                Dirk getting 10 assists and only taking 10 shots to me shows that this 33 inside shooting tendency is doing just that. making dirk pass out instead of go up himself and generally draw the foul. I saw this all the time when i first got the game. thats why I adjusted.
                                and the double teaming of Dirk you kept mentioning to defend Dirks stats. well, the only time NBA210 will double team is if the player is on fire, or he gets the ball inside under the hoop or has backed down a player that is mismatched..
                                PIP. who cares. basketball 101 is to try and score inside as much as possible due to the high % and foul drawing chances. Its up to the opposition to negate this.
                                Just because Dirk doesnt take many shots under the hoop is more because he doesnt get the ball under the hoop a lot. [tendencies and hotspots]

                                I just cannot agree with a 7ft scorer being 33 for inside shooting tendencies in NBA2K10. that is lower than I have most PGs.

                                Yeah it may be statistically correct in reality. But IMO it doesnt translate to the gameplay of this videogame.
                                It was one of the first things i noticed and one of the first things i adjusted.
                                Last edited by nogster; 04-25-2010, 04:56 PM.

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