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  • TheGame8544
    MVP
    • Jul 2003
    • 1656

    #706
    Re: editing roster w/ hex editor?

    Hookup, will we be able to edit association files with the Reditor and edit the coaches in the coaching pool?

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    • hokupguy
      All Star
      • Apr 2004
      • 5615

      #707
      Re: editing roster w/ hex editor?

      Originally posted by TheGame8544
      Hookup, will we be able to edit association files with the Reditor and edit the coaches in the coaching pool?
      yes that is the plan , but not when it is released. Sometime in June or so.
      "Never say never, because limits are like fears and they are often just an illusion."-M.J.

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      • 23
        yellow
        • Sep 2002
        • 66469

        #708
        Re: editing roster w/ hex editor?

        Ok I have a tricky one

        How about the logo, same as the PC guys do it

        You know, change it to a tv station logo?

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        • Colts18
          MVP
          • Feb 2010
          • 1959

          #709
          Re: editing roster w/ hex editor?

          So I am assuming that I would be able to use the editor and make mass roster edits. Will the ratings view as an excel spreadsheet type of view? If I send you a file would you be able to mess around with it and make a few global edits?

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          • bSmooth
            Rookie
            • Feb 2011
            • 139

            #710
            Re: editing roster w/ hex editor?

            Originally posted by 23
            Ok I have a tricky one

            How about the logo, same as the PC guys do it

            You know, change it to a tv station logo?
            I'm not sure whether you're referring to court logos (sXXX.iff & tXXX.iff files), or the scorers tables(XdornaXX.iff files), but either way you will not be able to add new ones, since that requires editing the contents of the actual .IFF files. Which you cannot access on the console. Editing the .IFF files is how we change courts, logos, backboards, dornas, cyberfaces, etc... for the PC version. Other tools, such as Photoshop, GIMP, NBA2KXXModTool, and other software is used to edit and manipulate these files, since once extracted they are simply images (.png .bmp) and textures files (.dds). However I imagine you could change a court to use another existing add or logo from another team by re-assigning an existing file.

            Regardless of what is and is not available compared to the PC version, it will be great for 360 folks, since it's a huge step forward in Roster editing. Unfortunately that's the extent though, Roster editing. Other files will likely never be editable on consoles. Now if you guys can just convince Microsoft and Sony that you should be able to modify files on your system that you have paid for, more progress could be made, legally. Good luck with that though, since even game companies, like Bethesda Softworks (The Elder Scrolls), cannot even convince them of this.

            Below is a screenshot showing the Arenas tab.

            Arenas Tab - REDitor II (Full version PC) -- Click for full size @ ImageShack.


            Originally posted by Colts18
            So I am assuming that I would be able to use the editor and make mass roster edits. Will the ratings view as an excel spreadsheet type of view? If I send you a file would you be able to mess around with it and make a few global edits?
            Yes you can mass edit Roster files (.ROS) and Association files (.FXG) via REDitor, and it's just like a spreadsheet, hell it is a spreadsheet. See pics below.

            Players Tab REDitor II (Full version PC) -- Click for full size @ ImageShack.


            Coaches Tab REDitor II (Full version PC) -- Click for full size @ ImageShack.
            Last edited by bSmooth; 04-25-2011, 07:17 PM.
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            • 23
              yellow
              • Sep 2002
              • 66469

              #711
              Re: editing roster w/ hex editor?

              Sorry i meant the presentation logo from 2k to espn or tnt

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              • bSmooth
                Rookie
                • Feb 2011
                • 139

                #712
                Re: editing roster w/ hex editor?

                Originally posted by 23
                Sorry i meant the presentation logo from 2k to espn or tnt
                Oh, I see. But no, sorry, that texture is located in the global.iff file, which is inaccessible on the consoles, and with REDitor II. REDitor II only handles roster files, such as .ROS, .FXG, and .FDC.
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                • hokupguy
                  All Star
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 5615

                  #713
                  Re: editing roster w/ hex editor?

                  Originally posted by bSmooth
                  I'm not sure whether you're referring to court logos (sXXX.iff & tXXX.iff files), or the scorers tables(XdornaXX.iff files), but either way you will not be able to add new ones, since that requires editing the contents of the actual .IFF files. Which you cannot access on the console. Editing the .IFF files is how we change courts, logos, backboards, dornas, cyberfaces, etc... for the PC version. Other tools, such as Photoshop, GIMP, NBA2KXXModTool, and other software is used to edit and manipulate these files, since once extracted they are simply images (.png .bmp) and textures files (.dds). However I imagine you could change a court to use another existing add or logo from another team by re-assigning an existing file.

                  Regardless of what is and is not available compared to the PC version, it will be great for 360 folks, since it's a huge step forward in Roster editing. Unfortunately that's the extent though, Roster editing. Other files will likely never be editable on consoles. Now if you guys can just convince Microsoft and Sony that you should be able to modify files on your system that you have paid for, more progress could be made, legally. Good luck with that though, since even game companies, like Bethesda Softworks (The Elder Scrolls), cannot even convince them of this.
                  yes mostly everything is on point me and vlad have found a few things are diffrent then the pc with the ablity to do more with some things on the console regarding the files. REDitor II does have some more detailed things in store for the 360 files. That everyone will have there hands on at the end of May. And there also are many more thing in store for the pc in the next few releases.

                  Also bSmooth please if you can dont post anymore pic of the tool right now vlad and i are waiting close to the release date to release info for the console use and dont want people to misunderstand what can or cant be done.
                  Last edited by hokupguy; 04-25-2011, 08:56 PM.
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                  • Colts18
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 1959

                    #714
                    Re: editing roster w/ hex editor?

                    I just hope you all fully explain how to use this to us idiots once it is released. Will there be a mock version of this?

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                    • hokupguy
                      All Star
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 5615

                      #715
                      Re: editing roster w/ hex editor?

                      Originally posted by Colts18
                      I just hope you all fully explain how to use this to us idiots once it is released. Will there be a mock version of this?
                      we will have reditor tool for dummies. Yes there will be demo verison so i you can play with it. I think it is very easy. If you could edit with hex this will be easy as pie.
                      "Never say never, because limits are like fears and they are often just an illusion."-M.J.

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                      • bSmooth
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 139

                        #716
                        Re: editing roster w/ hex editor?

                        Originally posted by hokupguy
                        Also bSmooth please if you can dont post anymore pic of the tool right now vlad and i are waiting close to the release date to release info for the console use and dont want people to misunderstand what can or cant be done.
                        Screenshots and video tutorials of REDitor are all over the place, a simple Google search and anyone can view them. I didn't post anything that's not readily available to anyone with the internet. As you'll notice I also indicated that those shots are specifically from the PC version, and commented that I'm unsure what the differences will be. It's not like what I posted is top-secret voodoo or something.
                        Last edited by bSmooth; 04-25-2011, 10:19 PM.
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                        • hokupguy
                          All Star
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 5615

                          #717
                          Re: editing roster w/ hex editor?

                          Originally posted by bSmooth
                          Screenshots and video tutorials of REDitor are all over the place, a simple Google search and anyone can view them. I didn't post anything that's not readily available to anyone with the internet. As you'll notice I also indicated that those shots are specifically from the PC version, and commented that I'm unsure what the differences will be. It's not like what I posted is top-secret voodoo or something.
                          yes and because of the fact what they can google and find is causing lots of confusion. If you can do me and vlad that favor it would be great. Thanks
                          "Never say never, because limits are like fears and they are often just an illusion."-M.J.

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                          • bSmooth
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 139

                            #718
                            Re: editing roster w/ hex editor?

                            Originally posted by hokupguy
                            yes and because of the fact what they can google and find is causing lots of confusion. If you can do me and vlad that favor it would be great. Thanks
                            Presenting information and explanations is not what causes confusion, quite the opposite rather, it helps avoid confusion.
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                            • hokupguy
                              All Star
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 5615

                              #719
                              Re: editing roster w/ hex editor?

                              Originally posted by bSmooth
                              Presenting information and explanations is not what causes confusion, quite the opposite rather, it helps avoid confusion.
                              but for people who dont know any better about this it does . So if you could please... it be great.
                              "Never say never, because limits are like fears and they are often just an illusion."-M.J.

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                              • supermati
                                Pro
                                • Sep 2004
                                • 562

                                #720
                                Re: editing roster w/ hex editor?

                                hookup any chance the Dleague players can be fully edited; and then the teams "unlocked" for regular play?

                                Thanks.

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