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  • tarantism
    Pro
    • Apr 2009
    • 979

    #946
    Re: REDitor II (NBA 2K12 edition)

    I've run into a major problem that just started popping up a few days ago and I can't seem to fix it. I've looked all around the net and haven't seen the solution anywhere, so I was hoping that somebody could help me. This is for Reditor ii (NBA 2k12)

    Basically I have a gigantic roster file with about 100 fully edited teams. I changed them all to CAT teams so that I could apply custom uniforms to them, and those all worked fine. I also applied a customized roster, and that also loads fine. Next I started to edit the arenas, and while all of the names and cities show correctly in the quick game menu, when I click on the game something weird happens.

    The game loading screen works correctly, with the "up next" graphics showing up and running through player stats and whatnot. Then, the screen just goes black and the game never loads.

    I've tried fixing multiple things. I thought it might be because some IDs didn't match up, but they all seem to. I thought it was because some parameters were wrong, but I used a default roster and fixed them all one by one, no dice (I did all of the other IDs at the same time).

    The games load fine when I use a default roster (the updated one that auto loads at the start of the game). I just tried using an old custom roster, one that used to work just fine, and it is doing the same thing as the new roster. W.T.F.

    I thought that maybe it was because I changed all 100 teams to team type "0", since having too many regular teams can cause freezing in franchise and other modes. I haven't had a chance to try editing that back to default yet, but my old custom roster does not the team types edited anyway, so I don't see why that would matter for quick play modes.

    PLEASE can somebody help me...I am absolutely stuck and it's making me crazy.
    GO FALCONS!

    Originally posted by Tweeg
    In all of the pre release CCM news people like Looman kept saying, "You might see a guy like Kurt Warner come out of retirement. Anything can happen."

    He should have said "You will see Kurt Warner come out of retirement. That's about it."

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    • hokupguy
      All Star
      • Apr 2004
      • 5615

      #947
      Re: REDitor II (NBA 2K12 edition)

      it would be very hard to tell because of all the extra teams and players and etc you have. What Pb , Krad and I do with our roster is that we track what we do each edit and save the last good save always as back up.

      Try to retrack your steps to see if you find where things went bad. Sorry cant help with this.
      "Never say never, because limits are like fears and they are often just an illusion."-M.J.

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      • tarantism
        Pro
        • Apr 2009
        • 979

        #948
        Re: REDitor II (NBA 2K12 edition)

        Originally posted by hokupguy
        it would be very hard to tell because of all the extra teams and players and etc you have. What Pb , Krad and I do with our roster is that we track what we do each edit and save the last good save always as back up.

        Try to retrack your steps to see if you find where things went bad. Sorry cant help with this.
        Yeah, thats the plan currently as soon as I have some time. Thanks a lot for the reply!
        GO FALCONS!

        Originally posted by Tweeg
        In all of the pre release CCM news people like Looman kept saying, "You might see a guy like Kurt Warner come out of retirement. Anything can happen."

        He should have said "You will see Kurt Warner come out of retirement. That's about it."

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        • return.specialist
          Pro
          • Jan 2012
          • 888

          #949
          Re: REDitor II (NBA 2K12 edition)

          By IDs do you mean GID? I would check the roster assignments of players and the players assigned to each roster correspond with the team. Also the 'number of players' on the roster cell is correct. Try launching a new game but selecting an arena which isn't that of the home or away team.
          ***1971-72 ABA Roster 2K12 360***
          http://www.operationsports.com/forum...f-rosters.html

          ***Roster of Entirely Fictional Players 2K12 360***
          http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ter-360-a.html

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          • tarantism
            Pro
            • Apr 2009
            • 979

            #950
            Re: REDitor II (NBA 2K12 edition)

            Originally posted by return.specialist
            By IDs do you mean GID? I would check the roster assignments of players and the players assigned to each roster correspond with the team. Also the 'number of players' on the roster cell is correct. Try launching a new game but selecting an arena which isn't that of the home or away team.
            No, I double checked all of my GIDs a while ago. I meant the Arena IDs, which all appear ok to me (and I don't see why this would matter anyway, because as long as the Arena ID lined up with SOME arena, it should just boot that Arena anyway, right?).

            I just went through and triple checked all of my rosters and player IDs. Everything looks fine, which I kind of expected because my understanding is that if they do not line up correctly then the roster will freeze upon loading. To be clear, my roster loads just fine. I can explore rosters, change rotations, edit CAT uniforms...literally do anything with it except actually play a game right now. This leads me to believe that the issue is something to do with the arenas...but I just can't figure out what it is.

            I've tried to line up all of the Parameters, Floor IDs, Modal IDs and LED IDs. Normally I would think that the issue would be that I changed floor IDs, or something else, for the CAT arenas (used the 800 [CAT], 735 [Summer Circut] and 100 [D-League/Generic] IDs), but the problem persists with arenas for normal NBA teams that I haven't touched. Oh, and yeah I also thought that loading a game with an unrelated arena might work, but that idea fell victim to the same issue as before so no dice.

            I've head that sometimes the only way to fix a freezing issue is to delete all NBA 2k files on the xbox? I always back everything up, so I've decided to give that a shot. I was just going to delete everything and then add in my edits essentially thing by thing, with arenas last, and see if I can get the game to load at all.

            Oh, one more thing: I've loaded a game with THIS roster, with edited players and teams once already before. Played the entire game and everything worked great. Since then I have changed colleges, jerseys and arenas. Deductive reasoning tells me that one of these three things could be the issue. Problem is, I've never heard of a jersey loading fine in the menus and then causing the game to crash upon quick play launch. I dunno, could be I guess.

            Also, if it makes any difference...for some reason every jersey, including existing NBA and D-League teams, have accessory color 1 set to blue and color 2 set to gold. I noticed that this had come up randomly the other day and I have no idea why.
            GO FALCONS!

            Originally posted by Tweeg
            In all of the pre release CCM news people like Looman kept saying, "You might see a guy like Kurt Warner come out of retirement. Anything can happen."

            He should have said "You will see Kurt Warner come out of retirement. That's about it."

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            • Sellaz32
              MVP
              • Dec 2010
              • 2339

              #951
              Originally posted by tarantism
              No, I double checked all of my GIDs a while ago. I meant the Arena IDs, which all appear ok to me (and I don't see why this would matter anyway, because as long as the Arena ID lined up with SOME arena, it should just boot that Arena anyway, right?).

              I just went through and triple checked all of my rosters and player IDs. Everything looks fine, which I kind of expected because my understanding is that if they do not line up correctly then the roster will freeze upon loading. To be clear, my roster loads just fine. I can explore rosters, change rotations, edit CAT uniforms...literally do anything with it except actually play a game right now. This leads me to believe that the issue is something to do with the arenas...but I just can't figure out what it is.

              I've tried to line up all of the Parameters, Floor IDs, Modal IDs and LED IDs. Normally I would think that the issue would be that I changed floor IDs, or something else, for the CAT arenas (used the 800 [CAT], 735 [Summer Circut] and 100 [D-League/Generic] IDs), but the problem persists with arenas for normal NBA teams that I haven't touched. Oh, and yeah I also thought that loading a game with an unrelated arena might work, but that idea fell victim to the same issue as before so no dice.

              I've head that sometimes the only way to fix a freezing issue is to delete all NBA 2k files on the xbox? I always back everything up, so I've decided to give that a shot. I was just going to delete everything and then add in my edits essentially thing by thing, with arenas last, and see if I can get the game to load at all.

              Oh, one more thing: I've loaded a game with THIS roster, with edited players and teams once already before. Played the entire game and everything worked great. Since then I have changed colleges, jerseys and arenas. Deductive reasoning tells me that one of these three things could be the issue. Problem is, I've never heard of a jersey loading fine in the menus and then causing the game to crash upon quick play launch. I dunno, could be I guess.

              Also, if it makes any difference...for some reason every jersey, including existing NBA and D-League teams, have accessory color 1 set to blue and color 2 set to gold. I noticed that this had come up randomly the other day and I have no idea why.
              At what point exactly does it freeze?


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              • tarantism
                Pro
                • Apr 2009
                • 979

                #952
                Re: REDitor II (NBA 2K12 edition)

                Originally posted by Sellaz32
                At what point exactly does it freeze?
                Right after the quick game loading screen. You know where the screen goes black for a second right before the game boots and player introductions start? Well mine just stays black instead of loading the game.
                GO FALCONS!

                Originally posted by Tweeg
                In all of the pre release CCM news people like Looman kept saying, "You might see a guy like Kurt Warner come out of retirement. Anything can happen."

                He should have said "You will see Kurt Warner come out of retirement. That's about it."

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                • Sellaz32
                  MVP
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 2339

                  #953
                  Originally posted by tarantism
                  Right after the quick game loading screen. You know where the screen goes black for a second right before the game boots and player introductions start? Well mine just stays black instead of loading the game.
                  Hmmm...anything screwy going on with team types? Are they type 0, cat, retro?

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                  • tarantism
                    Pro
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 979

                    #954
                    Re: REDitor II (NBA 2K12 edition)

                    Originally posted by Sellaz32
                    Hmmm...anything screwy going on with team types? Are they type 0, cat, retro?
                    All set to type zero. I also messed around with changing them all to CAT teams (except for the original NBA teams and D-League teams), but it didn't help so I changed it back. I was under the impression that having every team set to 0 would only cause freezing in other modes, not Quick Game, though. I could be wrong of course...not a reditor expert yet.
                    GO FALCONS!

                    Originally posted by Tweeg
                    In all of the pre release CCM news people like Looman kept saying, "You might see a guy like Kurt Warner come out of retirement. Anything can happen."

                    He should have said "You will see Kurt Warner come out of retirement. That's about it."

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                    • Sellaz32
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 2339

                      #955
                      Originally posted by tarantism
                      All set to type zero. I also messed around with changing them all to CAT teams (except for the original NBA teams and D-League teams), but it didn't help so I changed it back. I was under the impression that having every team set to 0 would only cause freezing in other modes, not Quick Game, though. I could be wrong of course...not a reditor expert yet.
                      First off, I have dealt with just about every freezing issue, but the one you are describing is new to me. Does the skip intro option come up where you can press A?

                      One thing I have done in the past when nothing has worked is take a fresh roster, copy and paste each section of the flawed roster one at a time and see if it works. If you have cloned any players or teams etc, make sure you clone extra slots so you are pasting the same amount of records. This will help you isolate the section that is giving you problems. Simply put, start default and slowly paste your edits and check to see if it will work.

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                      • tarantism
                        Pro
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 979

                        #956
                        Re: REDitor II (NBA 2K12 edition)

                        Originally posted by Sellaz32
                        First off, I have dealt with just about every freezing issue, but the one you are describing is new to me. Does the skip intro option come up where you can press A?

                        One thing I have done in the past when nothing has worked is take a fresh roster, copy and paste each section of the flawed roster one at a time and see if it works. If you have cloned any players or teams etc, make sure you clone extra slots so you are pasting the same amount of records. This will help you isolate the section that is giving you problems. Simply put, start default and slowly paste your edits and check to see if it will work.
                        Thanks, yeah that's the plan as soon as I can get to it. Seems like the only option at this point. Yes, the skip into option comes up, but I honestly never tried pressing A. I haven't cloned any teams, I just used existing slots so that couldn't be the problem.

                        Like I said, gonna start with a fresh roster as soon as I get done with these situational lineups, which is taking forever. Hopefully whatever problem I am having can be flushed out when I do that.
                        GO FALCONS!

                        Originally posted by Tweeg
                        In all of the pre release CCM news people like Looman kept saying, "You might see a guy like Kurt Warner come out of retirement. Anything can happen."

                        He should have said "You will see Kurt Warner come out of retirement. That's about it."

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                        • return.specialist
                          Pro
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 888

                          #957
                          Re: REDitor II (NBA 2K12 edition)

                          I'm interested to see what the outcome is. Never had heard of this issue.
                          ***1971-72 ABA Roster 2K12 360***
                          http://www.operationsports.com/forum...f-rosters.html

                          ***Roster of Entirely Fictional Players 2K12 360***
                          http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ter-360-a.html

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                          • tarantism
                            Pro
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 979

                            #958
                            Re: REDitor II (NBA 2K12 edition)

                            Originally posted by return.specialist
                            I'm interested to see what the outcome is. Never had heard of this issue.
                            Yeah, I have been finishing up a few other things for the file before I go back and start adding everything one by one to a fresh roster. I will definitely post here when/if I figure out what the problem is...hopefully I can save somebody the time in the future.

                            By the way, last night just in passing I tried pressing A during the game loading screen (to bypass lineups and defensive setting edits at the loading screen), but it froze still. I also tried booting a game with two teams that I didn't touch (I made no edits to the all star teams, etc...basically I only overwrote NBA, D-League, Classic and CAT slots without creating any new ones or overwriting special teams). That one really weirded me out because I made zero edits to those teams and it STILL froze.

                            So, I can load any team from a default roster still but otherwise I can't load anything. Could there be any chance that this is tied to my game settings? I mean, it has to be something that is universal between my edited rosters, because as I said before I was unable to boot a game from an entirely different edited roster.

                            Hopefully I will be able to start with a clean roster today, if I can get a few things done with time before work. However, I am really worried that the problem is something else entirely...
                            Last edited by tarantism; 04-17-2013, 01:19 PM.
                            GO FALCONS!

                            Originally posted by Tweeg
                            In all of the pre release CCM news people like Looman kept saying, "You might see a guy like Kurt Warner come out of retirement. Anything can happen."

                            He should have said "You will see Kurt Warner come out of retirement. That's about it."

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                            • tarantism
                              Pro
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 979

                              #959
                              Re: REDitor II (NBA 2K12 edition)

                              Well, started with a fresh file. Deleted my settings, profile and all other NBA 2k files on the xbox. Put my players, teams, staff and jerseys onto the fresh file and booted it up...problem persists.

                              So that means that I can rule out the possibility that it was the arenas. Oh, also I left all team types at default, so that can't be the problem either. The staff tab is a new edit, so that can't be the problem either. I was trying to boot Heat @ Mavericks, two teams that I have not touched as far as info or jerseys are concerned, so I guess I can rule out the jerseys being the problem as well? Not sure, I am at a bit of a loss here honestly.

                              As I stated before, I don't see how it could be teams or players because I've successfully booted a game with both edited already. One weird thing though, the problem with accessory colors is still there. Every normal NBA team still has color 1 set to blue and color 2 set to gold, even though I left all of their colors default (just copy/pasted the CAT jerseys onto the new file).

                              I also have trouble believing that there is something wrong with the disk itself, because the games boot perfectly fine with default rosters. I just can't get any edited rosters to work.

                              Any thoughts? I figure I just need to keep eliminating things until the problem bares it's throat, but I have no idea where to even start looking. It MUST be something that all edited rosters have in common.

                              One last thing...I don't have the latest version of Reditor ii. Is there something in the updates that could possibly fix my issue?

                              Again thanks for all of the help, input and support.

                              Edit: Just for kicks I tried to boot a game with the two CATs that worked before, and it didn't work. No surprise. Right now I feel like it's got to be something with the uniforms, though I don't see how that could be. Going to try to load a file without any uniform edits and see if it works.
                              Last edited by tarantism; 04-17-2013, 04:41 PM.
                              GO FALCONS!

                              Originally posted by Tweeg
                              In all of the pre release CCM news people like Looman kept saying, "You might see a guy like Kurt Warner come out of retirement. Anything can happen."

                              He should have said "You will see Kurt Warner come out of retirement. That's about it."

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                              • tarantism
                                Pro
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 979

                                #960
                                Re: REDitor II (NBA 2K12 edition)

                                Could it be that this is related to missing game patches? I haven't been prompted to download any.
                                GO FALCONS!

                                Originally posted by Tweeg
                                In all of the pre release CCM news people like Looman kept saying, "You might see a guy like Kurt Warner come out of retirement. Anything can happen."

                                He should have said "You will see Kurt Warner come out of retirement. That's about it."

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