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  • Anmino
    Rookie
    • Dec 2010
    • 25

    #256
    Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

    Two Thumbs up with these slider. Good job

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    • greenieblue
      MVP
      • Oct 2010
      • 1240

      #257
      Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

      Originally posted by Anmino
      Two Thumbs up with these slider. Good job

      Thanks, dude.

      I nearly lost my mind. So, it's good to hear that.
      Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd
      [...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.

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      • greenieblue
        MVP
        • Oct 2010
        • 1240

        #258
        Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

        Originally posted by greenieblue
        v 1.4: page 1.

        updated 12/13.

        Two quick things:

        - not sure about shooting fouls setting, adjust as you see fit
        - not 100% on Inside, Layup & Contact.
        Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd
        [...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.

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        • Anmino
          Rookie
          • Dec 2010
          • 25

          #259
          Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

          Originally posted by greenieblue
          Backstory here:

          http://www.operationsports.com/forum...o-v-0-1-a.html

          Special thanks to:

          The 2k Devs (I'm just the janitor repositioning the lights on Guernica)
          Armor & Sword (various things)
          Ace23 (On-Ball Steals!)
          jeffc1 (Real FG%)
          Ewing (Running Consultant)
          Adwen (Slider Consultant)
          AirandFlash (Pass Acc!)
          PuntNL (Infected like me w/ Slideritus)
          supadupa (Gametrack info)
          Tomba (Old Slider Info Helpful)
          Everyone who posted feedback
          Everyone who helped in other threads
          Everyone who has shown interest
          Everyone who was cool
          Everyone I forgot
          The Mods (for not banning or carding me!)
          The Edit button!!
          The Em Dash
          The Comma
          The Parentheses
          O.K., I'll stop.

          And lastly, Cesco for testing the hell out of every iteration of the set. As I said, he is at least half-responsible for these sliders-- read through the other thread and this is obvious. And there is much of his contribution that never saw the forums. So, thanks man. We made it! Lol. Send me the blame, him the praise.

          Known Issues

          - Shooting fouls are inconsistent

          - You probably shouldn't attempt on-ball steals
          - You might have to police your block attempts
          - 3pt Success slider might need to be adjusted
          - High Steal Totals (on purpose because of the minimal amount of non-steal turnovers)
          - Offensive Rebounds inconsistent (a game issue)
          - Team Fouls low (not many non-shooting fouls, game issue)
          - Passing Accuracy Issues (trying to squeeze out as many non-steal turnovers as possible while remaining sane)



          The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Post-Patch Sliders
          v. 1.4
          (updated 12/13/10)


          All Slider Settings Are For Both HUM/CPU


          Changes from the original set beside the number in parentheses: 58 original set/54 updated set, number beside in parentheses (-4).
          You can ignore these numbers and just input the number closest to the slider name, unless you want to return to the original set.


          Gameplay



          Difficulty: Pro
          Game Style: Custom
          Game Speed: 50
          Player Speed: 44
          Quarter Length: 12 minutes
          Fatigue: On
          Player Energy: On
          Injuries: On
          Clutch Factor: On
          Shooting Type: Real Player %
          FT Shooting Type: Real Player %
          Free Throw Difficulty: 25



          Game Sliders

          Offense

          Inside Shot Success: 44 (-2)
          Close Shot Success: 50
          Mid-Range Success: 50 (-2)
          3PT Success: 53 (-1)
          Layup Success: 43 (-4)
          Dunk Success: 50 (+2)
          Dunk in Traffic Success: 50 (+5)
          Pass Accuracy: 44 (+1)
          Alley-Oop Success: 45 (+1)
          Contact Shot Success: 43 (-2)


          Defense

          Driving Contact Shot Frequency: 74 (-6)
          Inside Contact Shot Frequency: 78 (-4)
          Help Defense Strength: 88
          Steal Success: 66 (-1)


          Attributes

          Quickness: 39
          Vertical: 49
          Strength: 51
          Stamina: 67
          Durability: 52 (+1)
          Hustle: 94
          Ball Handling: 61 (+7)
          Hands: 78 (-2)
          Dunking Ability: 37
          On-Ball Defense: 51 (-2)
          Stealing: 58 (-2)
          Blocking: 58 (-6)
          Offensive Awareness: 75 (+2)
          Defensive Awareness: 68
          Offensive Rebounding: 100
          Defensive Rebounding: 0 (-7)
          Clutch Factor: 1 (+1)
          Consistency: 47 (+1)
          Fatigue Rate: 36
          Injury Frequency: 51
          Injury Severity: 49


          Tendencies

          Take Inside Shots: 85 (+5)
          Take Close Shots: 45 (-5)
          Take Mid-Range Shots: 56 (-5)
          Take 3PT Shots: 49 (-5)
          Attack the Basket: 67 (+6)
          Look for Post Players: 65 (+1)
          Throw Alley Oops: 55 (+5)
          Attempt Dunks: 16 (+5)
          Attempt Putbacks: 100
          Throw Flashy Passes: 61
          Commit Fouls: 100
          Play Passing Lanes: 57
          Go for On-Ball Steals: 100
          Contest Shots: 100
          Backdoor Cuts: 81


          Fouls

          Over the Back Foul Frequency: 100
          Charging Foul Frequency: 100
          Blocking Foul Frequency: 100
          Reaching Foul Frequency: 100 (+6)
          Shooting Foul Frequency: 68 (+3)
          Loose Ball Foul Frequency: 100



          Presentation

          Commentary Vol: 100
          PA Vol: 80
          Sound Effects Vol: 60
          Crowd Vol: 50
          Player Chatter Vol: 60
          2K Beats In-Game Music Vol: 0
          2K Beats Menu Music Vol: 20
          Action Replays: Occasionally
          After Basket Camera Cuts: Often
          Ball Handler Text: Name & Position
          Free Throw Help: Off
          Free Throw Routines: On
          Jump Shot Feedback: Off



          NBA Rules

          All On


          Coach Settings


          Coach Mode: Off
          Timeout: Manual
          Substitution: Manual
          Substitution Method: Rotation
          PlayVision: All Plays
          PlayVision Display: Full
          Playcall Messages: User Plays Only
          Offense Playcalling: Auto
          Defense Playcalling: Manual
          Late Game Fouling: Manual



          Controller Settings

          Preferred Position: None
          Shot Stick: Camera Relative
          Passing Icons: On
          Icon Lead Passing: On
          Total Control Passing: On
          Right Stick Passing: On
          Right Stick Defense: Camera Relative
          Defensive Icons: On
          Who To Guard: On
          Defensive Assist Strength: 0



          Camera

          Broadcast
          Zoom: 3
          Height: 8
          Rev Angle: Off

          Soundtrack

          Turn off all, except:

          NBA 2k11 Theme
          Shutterbug
          Over
          Skeleton Dance
          Champion
          I Can Talk
          Home of the Brave
          Game Time
          Deli
          The Alan Parsons Project
          Go Hard or Go Home
          Red Rollerskates

          (I'm kidding, of course)
          What does (+) and (-) means in these slider? I will add and deduct from the original one? But how about those data has already 100 but you encoded 100(+6)? Sorry, Im just confused with these.

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          • greenieblue
            MVP
            • Oct 2010
            • 1240

            #260
            Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

            How I arrived at 1.4

            I ran 10 CPU v. CPU quarters (thus, 20 different teams & at least 100 different players) and hand tracked FGM/FGA by location on the floor. It is hard to tell if one click would result in +10 boost to FG% or +5, etc. But since I have run a few of these tests on a number of different settings, I'm quite confident in the settings for Close and Mid. 3pt is easy to track since the game does it for you. So, no new info there.

            Inside, Layup, Dunk, DIT, Contact are trickier. For one, teams averaged about 2-4 "and 1's" a game last year. So contact shot cannot really be high. At the previous setting, it was too high-- i.e. there were too many conversions on fouls. So that had to be dropped. Layups seem almost indestructible. But it is not quite clear what 2k calls a layup and what they call an inside shot. 4 of the 5 seem redundant to me (that is: Inside, Layup, Dunk, DIT). Inside seems like it only refers to post-ups that go deep enough to enter the charge circle. But, what you are looking for here is 61%, not 100%. So, since layups are almost always successful (and very hard to tune as a result), and dunks should be almost always successful, the majority of misses have to come on Inside shots.

            I'm still not happy with this, but the only way to finish them off is to play. So I will.

            Another note:

            NBA teams averaged 46% FG% last year.

            They averaged 44% in what 2k11 calls close.

            39% in what 2k11 calls mid.

            35% in threes.

            So how is that possible, or why is your FG% too low?

            They shot 61% on dunks, layups and putbacks.

            It is extremely hard (short of editing the entire leagues tendencies) to make the computer live inside (27 shots a game in 09-10) like they do in the NBA. 2k11 player tendencies just LOVE mid-range jumpers. So FG% should and will probably be low for the computer. You can control your own FG% by getting to hoop.
            Last edited by greenieblue; 12-13-2010, 11:50 AM.
            Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd
            [...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.

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            • greenieblue
              MVP
              • Oct 2010
              • 1240

              #261
              Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

              Originally posted by Anmino
              What does (+) and (-) means in these slider? I will add and deduct from the original one? But how about those data has already 100 but you encoded 100(+6)? Sorry, Im just confused with these.

              Just ignore the numbers in parentheses.

              They are mostly to remind me (and anyone else who cares) what the original (v. 1.0) slider settings were. It's also to indicate where I've made changes to people who are using an old set.

              In other words, if it says 100 (+6), the original purist set had that slider at 94 but I now recommend 100.
              Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd
              [...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.

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              • Anmino
                Rookie
                • Dec 2010
                • 25

                #262
                Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

                Originally posted by greenieblue
                Just ignore the numbers in parentheses.

                They are mostly to remind me (and anyone else who cares) what the original (v. 1.0) slider settings were. It's also to indicate where I've made changes to people who are using an old set.

                In other words, if it says 100 (+6), the original purist set had that slider at 94 but I now recommend 100.
                Ah I see. Okay then. Is these slider is applicable for PC platform?

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                • greenieblue
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 1240

                  #263
                  Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

                  Originally posted by Anmino
                  Ah I see. Okay then. Is these slider is applicable for PC platform?
                  Hmm. Honestly, I don't know. It was developed and tested post-patch.

                  Give it a shot.
                  Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd
                  [...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.

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                  • Anmino
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 25

                    #264
                    Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

                    Originally posted by greenieblue
                    Hmm. Honestly, I don't know. It was developed and tested post-patch.

                    Give it a shot.
                    Thanks. lol. You reply so fast. Anyway, I'm playing at the moment. And it seems good. But I need to try more games in my Association, because I'm planning to make AGAIN another Association.
                    I'm really newbie here. I think this is my 5th or 6th post/comment in the forum.

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                    • greenieblue
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 1240

                      #265
                      Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

                      Originally posted by Anmino
                      Thanks. lol. You reply so fast. Anyway, I'm playing at the moment. And it seems good. But I need to try more games in my Association, because I'm planning to make AGAIN another Association.
                      I'm really newbie here. I think this is my 5th or 6th post/comment in the forum.

                      Sadly, right now, I have nothing better to do.

                      Welcome! Although I'm most definitely not the one to say that-- I've been here since Oct. And I would assume that most people are either indifferent to me, or hate my guts.

                      But, yeah, let me know how it goes. It will be nice to know if these work pre-patch.
                      Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd
                      [...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.

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                      • Anmino
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 25

                        #266
                        Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

                        Originally posted by greenieblue
                        Sadly, right now, I have nothing better to do.

                        Welcome! Although I'm most definitely not the one to say that-- I've been here since Oct. And I would assume that most people are either indifferent to me, or hate my guts.

                        But, yeah, let me know how it goes. It will be nice to know if these work pre-patch.
                        I will post my game stat tomorrow, my next game is against the Magic. I'm using the Mavs btw. Forget the previous game, I messed the slider because of that parenthesis thing. lol.

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                        • B Edwards 17
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 52

                          #267
                          Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

                          Where is player speed and player energy?

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                          • greenieblue
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 1240

                            #268
                            Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

                            Originally posted by B Edwards 17
                            Where is player speed and player energy?

                            Association Mode>

                            Calendar>

                            Play Game>

                            Top Button on Controller.
                            Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd
                            [...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.

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                            • xxDHAINESxx
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 202

                              #269
                              Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

                              i'm starting to think 25 on free throw difficulty is too high(or low, whatever). i'm seeing way too many bad free throw shooters make free throws consistantly. i just played a game where greg oden hit 8 of 8, and the one against boston, shaq was 7 for 7. alsop, i have russell westbrook shooting 97% from the line....he's and 80 percenter :P

                              i dunno maybe its just me

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                              • greenieblue
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 1240

                                #270
                                Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

                                Originally posted by xxDHAINESxx
                                i'm starting to think 25 on free throw difficulty is too high(or low, whatever). i'm seeing way too many bad free throw shooters make free throws consistantly. i just played a game where greg oden hit 8 of 8, and the one against boston, shaq was 7 for 7. alsop, i have russell westbrook shooting 97% from the line....he's and 80 percenter :P

                                i dunno maybe its just me
                                I'm almost positive if you have it on Real FT% the number doesn't matter.

                                If Timing was on, a lower number would make them easier.

                                I think it's a fluke.

                                (Sorry, I misread)

                                Are you using the new settings, DH? Are you finding them too easy?
                                Last edited by greenieblue; 12-13-2010, 01:29 PM.
                                Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd
                                [...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.

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