The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

[Illuminati]

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10/10 sliders I can't put the game down

[ChicagoChris]

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Love the sliders. I have had the game 2 weeks and have won a grand total of zero games.

But that's my fault. Trying to learn to play smarter and avoid turnovers (which are killing me).

Please keep up the good work and if you could periodically update 2K share...that'd be great!

[greenieblue]

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Thanks, guys.

When they go final, I'll upload them: PS3.

[big_al]

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These sliders are amazing, such realistic games. Only wish turnovers weren't so high. Any way to fix that?

[greenieblue]

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These sliders are amazing, such realistic games. Only wish turnovers weren't so high. Any way to fix that?

Thanks, man.

Down with the hands slider, up with pass accuracy slider.

[Vince]

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what rosters you using?

[greenieblue]

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what rosters you using?

I started an Association with the Living Rosters around opening week. I'm in 2022, now. The sliders were tuned in 2022.

[ewing6]

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Bounced back wiith a nice 105-92 win vs the Kings in which i made a 2nd half comeback. Gallo had 26 and 7 guys had between 7 and 16 so the scoring was very spread around which seems to happen w/o amare

Kings/Knicks
Field Goals: 36-80(45%)/38-90(42%)
3's: 1-7(14%)/13-30(43%)
free throws: 19-30(63%)/16-21(76%)
assists: 22/29(most I have gotten with this set)
turnovers: 14/17(getting better)
rebounds: 40( 6 off.)/49(10 off.)
steals: 13/12
Blocks: 9/5
PIP: 42/40
Bench: 30/42
2nd chance: 6/9
fast break: 12/2

[ParisB]

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Just a general question for you guys. I am posting in here because I appreciate greeniblue's dedication in the lab and I can tell he has a good eye for basketball in the real world and how it's translated into video games (not just looking at end game stats, but how they get there). I'd like to see his input.

Anyway...

How many games do you guys play before making a slider adjustments based on statistical output?

How many games do you guys play before making slider adjustments based on the "feel" (tendencies, animations etc.)

At what point is a slider tweak from a value of 36 to a 37 is justified? How do we know that what we are seeing isn't placebo, or a variation of MULTIPLE things affecting it...from the dice roll of animations, player attributes, ratings etc. It's not like we can play in a vaccum and isolate individual sliders and test them repeatedly in the EXACT situation. Can we honestly say there's a difference between Clutch Factor at 3 or at 9? Or Help Defense at 78 as opposed to 79? Do we use elite defensive teams over and over to get to that conclusion? and against what opponent?

I find the game plays slightly different from game to game, yet most of us tweak multiple sliders here and there after a game or two, throwing in different variables all at once.

Also, the Lakers in real life recently went through a 5-6 stretch against mediocre and subpar teams. Their offense was struggling, their defense was lapsing, they played fatigued and looked vulnerable without Bynum/Ratliff. Anyway, can you imagine if this happened in 2k11? We would be going crazy with slider tweaks, especially if it was on Pro (lol). I'm just saying, I see a lot of people posting game stat results and over analyzing...

Just browsing in last night's boxscores in the NBA, I saw a team grab 4 offensive rebounds, Minnesota grabbed 21. I saw Memphis attempt 5 three pointers, while Houston attempted like 25. I saw the Clippers shoot something like 12 free throws all game, while Denver had near 40. I saw Charlotte go something like 2-15 from down town while Miami was 10-18. Do we bump down 3-point success or bump it up if we had a game like that in 2k11?

I'm just curious how you guys are coming to certain conclusions. I see it in multiple threads, people posting completely different sliders and everyone that tries them say how amazing they are. If I didn't know any better, I would think that out of the box settings are the worst...

[Wil2DaSon]

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Thanks, man.

Trust me, I know exactly what you mean. Somehow it seems like the game was made so that more accurate passers (players with a high passing rating) are less accurate than average passers when you adjust the Pass Accuracy slider down.

Strange.

If you want to lessen the TO's, just adjust hands down and pass acc up.

Im not to worried about it cause with the sliders this way it makes me really think about who I pass the ball to. On the other hand it is frustrating cause I will see the other team make amazing passes. Then they make horrible passes too. That's why this slider set is so good. I play the show and madden also, and no slider set on any of those games has ever done that. I know you can't compare, but they actually play almost similar to real players. On the show and madden I never found a slider set that does that.

[king_24]

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I used your slider philosophy to generate more non-shooting fouls and it worked! I'm finally seeing non-shooting fouls! You the man!

[greenieblue]

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Just a general question for you guys. I am posting in here because I appreciate greeniblue's dedication in the lab and I can tell he has a good eye for basketball in the real world and how it's translated into video games (not just looking at end game stats, but how they get there). I'd like to see his input.

Anyway...

How many games do you guys play before making a slider adjustments based on statistical output?

How many games do you guys play before making slider adjustments based on the "feel" (tendencies, animations etc.)

At what point is a slider tweak from a value of 36 to a 37 is justified? How do we know that what we are seeing isn't placebo, or a variation of MULTIPLE things affecting it...from the dice roll of animations, player attributes, ratings etc. It's not like we can play in a vaccum and isolate individual sliders and test them repeatedly in the EXACT situation. Can we honestly say there's a difference between Clutch Factor at 3 or at 9? Or Help Defense at 78 as opposed to 79? Do we use elite defensive teams over and over to get to that conclusion? and against what opponent?

I find the game plays slightly different from game to game, yet most of us tweak multiple sliders here and there after a game or two, throwing in different variables all at once.

Also, the Lakers in real life recently went through a 5-6 stretch against mediocre and subpar teams. Their offense was struggling, their defense was lapsing, they played fatigued and looked vulnerable without Bynum/Ratliff. Anyway, can you imagine if this happened in 2k11? We would be going crazy with slider tweaks, especially if it was on Pro (lol). I'm just saying, I see a lot of people posting game stat results and over analyzing...

Just browsing in last night's boxscores in the NBA, I saw a team grab 4 offensive rebounds, Minnesota grabbed 21. I saw Memphis attempt 5 three pointers, while Houston attempted like 25. I saw the Clippers shoot something like 12 free throws all game, while Denver had near 40. I saw Charlotte go something like 2-15 from down town while Miami was 10-18. Do we bump down 3-point success or bump it up if we had a game like that in 2k11?

I'm just curious how you guys are coming to certain conclusions. I see it in multiple threads, people posting completely different sliders and everyone that tries them say how amazing they are. If I didn't know any better, I would think that out of the box settings are the worst...

Wow, PB. I could write a dissertation on this topic.

I'm afraid if I answer some of your questions honestly, I'll offend some people. I'm not so good with PR. And I don't really know how to talk about the others without writing a dissertation.

The long and short of it is: I don't know. I don't know what's the difference between 3-9. I don't know how many games makes a proper assessment. I don't know what is already there and what I've done. Etc.

The one thing I do know is, I look at all the stats coming in and the important ones resemble mine and mine resemble the NBA's. Of course, I look at other slider threads and I see the same thing. So, yeah... I don't know.

Sorry man. Maybe if you distilled the general idea of your post I could find something less flammable. Lol.

Trust me, I would love to have this conversation. Maybe more than any other on this board... well, it would actually be second in that race... but I don't think I should. I don't think it's a good idea if I do.

[greenieblue]

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I used your slider philosophy to generate more non-shooting fouls and it worked! I'm finally seeing non-shooting fouls! You the man!

Lol, c'mon dude!

Even I saw that coming (both times). And, I can't see your IP.

Anyway, glad I could help. Although, I have no idea how I did.

[greenieblue]

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Im not to worried about it cause with the sliders this way it makes me really think about who I pass the ball to. On the other hand it is frustrating cause I will see the other team make amazing passes. Then they make horrible passes too. That's why this slider set is so good. I play the show and madden also, and no slider set on any of those games has ever done that. I know you can't compare, but they actually play almost similar to real players. On the show and madden I never found a slider set that does that.

Thanks, man. But I think credit goes to 2k. And blame goes to the other two developers.

I'm glad you are enjoying them.

[ParisB]

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Wow, PB. I could write a dissertation on this topic.

I'm afraid if I answer some of your questions honestly, I'll offend some people. I'm not so good with PR. And I don't really know how to talk about the others without writing a dissertation.

The long and short of it is: I don't know. I don't know what's the difference between 3-9. I don't know how many games makes a proper assessment. I don't know what is already there and what I've done. Etc.

The one thing I do know is, I look at all the stats coming in and the important ones resemble mine and mine resemble the NBA's. Of course, I look at other slider threads and I see the same thing. So, yeah... I don't know.

Sorry man. Maybe if you distilled the general idea of your post I could find something less flammable. Lol.

Trust me, I would love to have this conversation. Maybe more than any other on this board... well, it would actually be second in that race... but I don't think I should. I don't think it's a good idea if I do.

What do you mean less flammable?

Feel free to PM me..I don't know if you meant PR with me or with people in this thread or with people in other threads....haha.