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  • greenieblue
    MVP
    • Oct 2010
    • 1240

    #886
    Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

    Originally posted by Cesco
    Wow, that was a long reading from the 15th of December till the last post on this thread! I spent some holiday time in the Caribbean but now I'm back to work... with NBA2K11, real job can wait till the 10th of January :-)

    Soooo, must we venture into the darkness that is All-Star? Oh yes, the last time I had a bad headache playing NBA 2K was when I tried All Star Level, eh eh. But if now everyone is giving it a try I'll do it myself. For now I can't use the coaching profiles and rosters because they are for PS3. I'll try the sliders before editing all coaching profiles by hand. Do they really make a difference? If they do I'll be glad to do some nasty handwork on them and edit them for all teams.

    Tomorrow I should be able to play a game... if I can remember HOW to play!
    Cesco! Lol. WB.

    You might have to carry the torch... I'm about done.
    Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd
    [...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.

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    • greenieblue
      MVP
      • Oct 2010
      • 1240

      #887
      Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

      Originally posted by pabby21
      would clutch factor have anything to do with the brutality of all star?

      Scarily enough, I think it might be worse with it off.
      Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd
      [...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.

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      • pabby21
        Rookie
        • Nov 2009
        • 331

        #888
        Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

        Originally posted by greenieblue
        Cesco! Lol. WB.

        You might have to carry the torch... I'm about done.
        NOOOOOOOOOOOOO haha.....just take a break, don't leave! lol

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        • greenieblue
          MVP
          • Oct 2010
          • 1240

          #889
          Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

          Originally posted by pabby21
          NOOOOOOOOOOOOO haha.....just take a break, don't leave! lol
          :wink:

          If I can't give it my full effort, then I'm just half-assing it. I can't do that.

          All it really requires is patience, time, these websites:

          http://www.hoopdata.com

          http://www.82games.com

          http://www.basketballvalue.com

          http://www.nba.com

          and enjoyment of video games.

          I have all of these, except the last one.

          That said, you never know.
          Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd
          [...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.

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          • t_SKY
            Rookie
            • Oct 2010
            • 284

            #890
            Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

            tried the new sliders. damn, too many TO's and fouls for me.

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            • Mourf
              Rookie
              • Oct 2010
              • 186

              #891
              Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

              End of the first Game for me.

              Again with some modification for sst.

              11 minutes (with sst 12 minutes give too much point at final)

              Off. Awarness to 88 (2.3 set)
              Clutch Factor OFF
              Clutch Sliders to 3 (2.3 too if I remember)

              Inside Shot Success: 46 ( pre post set)
              Close Shot Success: 47
              Mid-Range Success: 47
              3PT Success: 50

              All The rest with 2.6 set.

              So



              Think I've found good balance for adapt the set even is there always some inconsistencies.

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              • Mourf
                Rookie
                • Oct 2010
                • 186

                #892
                Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

                Win my second game, but there's weird stats ^^

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                • coldkevin
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 369

                  #893
                  Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

                  sorry gree but all-star is completly insane for me, too many silly TO and high shooting %, unplayable for my taste

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                  • greenieblue
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 1240

                    #894
                    Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

                    2.7, page 1.
                    Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd
                    [...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.

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                    • greenieblue
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 1240

                      #895
                      Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

                      Originally posted by Mourf
                      End of the first Game for me.

                      Again with some modification for sst.

                      11 minutes (with sst 12 minutes give too much point at final)

                      Off. Awarness to 88 (2.3 set)
                      Clutch Factor OFF
                      Clutch Sliders to 3 (2.3 too if I remember)

                      Inside Shot Success: 46 ( pre post set)
                      Close Shot Success: 47
                      Mid-Range Success: 47
                      3PT Success: 50

                      All The rest with 2.6 set.

                      So



                      Think I've found good balance for adapt the set even is there always some inconsistencies.

                      Sounds, looks good to me, Mourf.

                      Nice work.
                      Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd
                      [...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.

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                      • greenieblue
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 1240

                        #896
                        Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

                        Originally posted by coldkevin
                        sorry gree but all-star is completly insane for me, too many silly TO and high shooting %, unplayable for my taste

                        You hit a wall when you realize that the computer is actually passing to open men on AS for great shots, and single-mindedly running stupid ISO's and pulling up for horrible shots all game long on PRO. The court vision on AS is phenomenal. The court vision on PRO is nonexistent (even with OFF AWR @ 100).

                        Is it in the settings? Perhaps. But, I can't kill the defense on PRO anymore than I already have and have it be competitive (realistic). There isn't an ounce of cheating on AS, that's just the computer kicking the **** out of you when you **** up. It's basketball and a lot of has to do with how well you handle each possession, if shots fall, refs calls, etc. One mistake becomes two, becomes three, becomes a blowout. You can do whatever you want on PRO and still be in the game (and usually win), AS is not like this.

                        People complain about TO's, but what they fail to realize is there are ways to avoid TO's at the current settings.

                        One: you can't pass through people, thus hands are high.
                        Two: if you put the ball in the hand nearest the pass recipient, the odds are much greater that you will complete it.
                        Three: if you move away from traffic when you are inbounding the ball, the odds are much greater that you will not throw it away.
                        Four: if you are throwing a cross court pass, you should make sure you are not throwing it over the head of two defenders standing in the lane. +
                        Five: put the settings on default and see how wonky the passing system is already.
                        Six: I didn't design the game.
                        Seven: It's two ****ing sliders.
                        Eight: You might have to let the computer inbound the ball, if you don't want to cheat.


                        There is literally no way that PASS ACC @ 45+, hands under 77 will cause the computer to turn the ball over more than 10 times a game. That's not realistic. It's phony. You can adjust HUM, CPU independently and tune to your preference. I've posted my preference and reasoned why a million times. But, sorry, I'm not David Koresh, solve your own problems (or whatever you perceive are your problems). Besides, MLB: TC is released in two months, that'll take care of 99.9% of you.

                        Not that that was what you were talking about.

                        Sorry to lose you, man. Good luck!
                        Last edited by greenieblue; 01-06-2011, 02:33 PM.
                        Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd
                        [...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.

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                        • Dean3790
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 346

                          #897
                          Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

                          There is literally no way that PASS ACC @ 45+, hands under 77 will cause the computer to turn the ball over more than 10 times a game. That's not realistic. It's phony.
                          NBA teams turn the ball over on average 14 times per game. Is that what the CPU is getting on All-Star?

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                          • Mourf
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 186

                            #898
                            Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

                            Originally posted by greenieblue
                            Sounds, looks good to me, Mourf.

                            Nice work.

                            Thx dude ! I tell myself that I've put my life in game when I show you my modification for other thing that FG% shoot ...

                            There's something else I wanna know :

                            On the pre patch set, I was very very impressed by way that the cpu react and his reaction on the court. (and I discovers your set AFTER the patch so.. )

                            If he was free for a 3pts shot, He take it, if not, he search another way to play (in my "souvenirs" in french). But in this set (and maybe cause it's in All Star Level) he's got weird reaction, shot at 3 with three players around, Attack the basket really (too?) often etc... just weird sometimes.

                            What can it change if we take the old tendencies for put them in the 2.7 version of Post patch, is there's a relation beetween the tendencies and the % of FG for exemple...is that a risk to completly ****ed up the entier set ?

                            this question is clear in my head , but a little bit confused when I try to ask and explain here, sorry

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                            • greenieblue
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 1240

                              #899
                              Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

                              Originally posted by Dean3790
                              NBA teams turn the ball over on average 14 times per game. Is that what the CPU is getting on All-Star?

                              They actually avg. from 17.3 (MIN) - 13.3 (UTA).

                              The answer is, I don't know. But, that's the goal.

                              What goes into an AVG of 17? Just this:

                              29:



                              25:



                              21:






                              20:





                              19:

                              http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2011010116

                              http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2010122916


                              18:

                              http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2010122916

                              http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2010112416

                              http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2010110319

                              http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2010110214

                              http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2010102916


                              That is: 36% of their games, they have turned the ball over more than their own AVG.

                              Not to mention the NBA AVG.

                              TO's are incredibly important. One of the most important stats in the NBA. I said it before, I'll say it again, I don't care how I get there, as long as I do.

                              I feel the same about O-boards. Unfortunately there is no band aid.
                              Last edited by greenieblue; 01-06-2011, 03:43 PM.
                              Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd
                              [...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.

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                              • greenieblue
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 1240

                                #900
                                Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

                                Originally posted by Mourf
                                Thx dude ! I tell myself that I've put my life in game when I show you my modification for other thing that FG% shoot ...

                                There's something else I wanna know :

                                On the pre patch set, I was very very impressed by way that the cpu react and his reaction on the court. (and I discovers your set AFTER the patch so.. )

                                If he was free for a 3pts shot, He take it, if not, he search another way to play (in my "souvenirs" in french). But in this set (and maybe cause it's in All Star Level) he's got weird reaction, shot at 3 with three players around, Attack the basket really (too?) often etc... just weird sometimes.

                                What can it change if we take the old tendencies for put them in the 2.7 version of Post patch, is there's a relation beetween the tendencies and the % of FG for exemple...is that a risk to completly ****ed up the entier set ?

                                this question is clear in my head , but a little bit confused when I try to ask and explain here, sorry

                                My experience was the exact opposite. Stupid shots on Pro, & with OFF AWR +68 on AS, nice shot selection.

                                Some of it is in the players tendencies (the horrible fade-aways, for instance).

                                I understand your question, but I don't know the answer. Sorry, man.
                                Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd
                                [...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.

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