MyTeam Mobile Discussion

[ActionJack]

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This is true, but the general practices that are leading up to this have been in effect since before the first RC was announced. The incessant need to race to the bottom was in full display two weeks ago. It's just taken on a new intensity.

Never mind even just a couple of weeks ago.. these were the practices that took place last year.

CD screws up timing on things a lot, but the player base moves how they move regardless. AH gonna be dead, and people are gonna be crying before you know it.

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[wyld]

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i think it's absolutely about supply and demand. the more players reach legendary tier, the more cards of that tier are available in the AH, creating competitive pricing.

compound that with the fact that the source of the supply (drafting a tier reset) is limitless, and you have no negative impact to the seller making a quick profit through an undercut.

[ActionJack]

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You guys are complaining about what we wanted last year


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For the record, I didn't want lower mins last year either. Low mins was always a terrible idea.

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[ActionJack]

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i think it's absolutely about supply and demand. the more players reach legendary tier, the more cards of that tier are available in the AH, creating competitive pricing.

compound that with the fact that the source of the supply (drafting a tier reset) is limitless, and you have no negative impact to the seller making a quick profit through an undercut.

But there is a negative impact to the undercut. It's a huge negative impact, and it's clear and obvious. They crater the market. Cratering the market isn't worth scoring a few RP, imo.

Not to mention you're leaving money on the table when you sell cheap.

How is leaving RP on the table in the present, AND weakening future earning potential a proposition with "no negative impact"? It's the exact opposite of that.

[Elite1216]

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Before the first RC was announced , the market was just falling to a reasonable state. Wild cards were a terrible idea for this game. Who is going to spend 100k for a card when they might get 2 WC for 5k? It's a gamble, but it's a gamble many would rather take 20 times then dropping 100k on 1 card.

[StrikerAI]

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Before the first RC was announced , the market was just falling to a reasonable state. Wild cards were a terrible idea for this game. Who is going to spend 100k for a card when they might get 2 WC for 5k? It's a gamble, but it's a gamble many would rather take 20 times then dropping 100k on 1 card.

Without wild cards, I'd still probably be in UR or Epic tier, so no wild cards aren't a bad idea, they are a wonderful idea

[Ashi5W]

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But there is a negative impact to the undercut. It's a huge negative impact, and it's clear and obvious. They crater the market. Cratering the market isn't worth scoring a few RP, imo.

Not to mention you're leaving money on the table when you sell cheap.

How is leaving RP on the table in the present, AND weakening future earning potential a proposition with "no negative impact"? It's the exact opposite of that.

Maybe to people who spend real money, or have already made it to legendary++ and have several legendary pros selling quick makes no sense but in general more of the player base is making it to legendary tier and are quickly not needing URs, Epics and even regular legendaries, to these players its hard to keep relisting items because they need RP quick, its nonsensical to people with stockpiles of RP in the six digits but to people who don't have that much selling quick makes a lot of sense, these people do it because legendary cards in general are useless, there is no reason to keep a card you don't need or to try and sell it for a high price when you can sell it quick and use the RP to acquire better cards (RC, Rttc, Season reward MVPs) quickly. For people with RP its a non-issue, they can spend on HS and also leisurely sell legendary pros at 200k. But for someone who thinks his LU needs that RC or MVP its hard to convince them not to sell regular legendaries quickly. Also you have to assess level of commitment not everyone wants to play 100s of games everyday to draft legendaries then pro them and then sell. RC is a quick fix good cards and all you need is RP to buy hot streaks.

[wyld]

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But there is a negative impact to the undercut. It's a huge negative impact, and it's clear and obvious. They crater the market. Cratering the market isn't worth scoring a few RP, imo.

Not to mention you're leaving money on the table when you sell cheap.

How is leaving RP on the table in the present, AND weakening future earning potential a proposition with "no negative impact"? It's the exact opposite of that.

keep in mind i specifically said no negative impact to "the seller" and not the market. if a seller undercuts your 200k card for 190k, he's at no loss. he sold his card. then he just grinds to get a new one and repeats.

the market will obviously be affected, there's no argument there. but there's nothing anyone can do because the market is controlled by people. and you can't make all players of this app abide by a minimum selling rule. the moment you do, you get buy backs.

[eastfreestyler]

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i think it's absolutely about supply and demand. the more players reach legendary tier, the more cards of that tier are available in the AH, creating competitive pricing.

compound that with the fact that the source of the supply (drafting a tier reset) is limitless, and you have no negative impact to the seller making a quick profit through an undercut.

+1

It's all about supply and demand.
I fall into category of those who wants their card to sell quick. By no means I'm desperate for RPs looking at my situation (Leg season with 13 leg pros - hoarding rps and not buying cards). I just look into the latest bidding price and list the card BIN for that price. Most of the time (if not all), the price I got is the lowest BIN in the category.

So yea, card value is only going down daily. I don't expect the AH to stay this profitable for long period of time. We will come to state where quick sell that CD introduce this year will actually get used.

[Souf sia 4 lia]

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Don't know why some of you are mad AH prices are going down. Isn't that what we want? Fair and reasonably priced cards in the AH?

The biggest reason why I haven't purchased any higher tiered cards from AH was because of the insanely inflated prices.

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[ActionJack]

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keep in mind i specifically said no negative impact to "the seller" and not the market. if a seller undercuts your 200k card for 190k, he's at no loss. he sold his card. then he just grinds to get a new one and repeats.

the market will obviously be affected, there's no argument there. but there's nothing anyone can do because the market is controlled by people. and you can't make all players of this app abide by a minimum selling rule. the moment you do, you get buy backs.

Yeah, I know. That's been my point since last year though. People wanna blame CD for AH death... but it's the players' fault. CD doesn't make all the smartest moves, but the players are gonna **** it up any way it goes, regardless.

Whatever. I'll keep selling stuff at prices actually appropriate to cards' values. I'll leave it to everyone else to race to the bottom, then cry later.

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[Elite1216]

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Without wild cards, I'd still probably be in UR or Epic tier, so no wild cards aren't a bad idea, they are a wonderful idea

So would I and many others. But how bad would that be? Maybe we would actually buy cards from AH to progress instead of just selling to chase WCs.

And what's wrong with not being in the highest tier less than a month after the game is released?

[Souf sia 4 lia]

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I don't see how setting the prices at 100k for leg cards was ever reasonable. I don't think anyone would've thought those prices would hold for long.

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[wyld]

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Yeah, I know. That's been my point since last year though. People wanna blame CD for AH death... but it's the players' fault. CD doesn't make all the smartest moves, but the players are gonna **** it up any way it goes, regardless.

Whatever. I'll keep selling stuff at prices actually appropriate to cards' values. I'll leave it to everyone else to race to the bottom, then cry later.

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right on point, AJ. we made our bed, now we gotta lie in it.

[Ashi5W]

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Yeah, I know. That's been my point since last year though. People wanna blame CD for AH death... but it's the players' fault. CD doesn't make all the smartest moves, but the players are gonna **** it up any way it goes, regardless.

Whatever. I'll keep selling stuff at prices actually appropriate to cards' values. I'll leave it to everyone else to race to the bottom, then cry later.

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You're right but inflated prices only contribute to the problem, what needs to happen is price stabilisation 200k for a legendary card just doesn't work, i pro'd my conley for 120k, because legendary cards go for around 60k, inflating this price only creates demand for low price cards. Its common sense if people see two cards and some buffoon prices it at 40k and you price it at 75k no doubt they will buy the 40k, my point is overcompensating for either side gets you bad results, people need to realise the value of cards but not overvalue or undervalue them. So that is hard to do with RC cards being easily obtainable. Pray tell WHY you're selling your Anthony Davis? because you want the RC Anthony Davis its that simple. But not all people price their legendaries 200k because the card no longer carries value. same reason we saw legendary wades for 30-45k