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  • doctorhay53
    MVP
    • Aug 2005
    • 1360

    #2701
    re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

    Originally posted by TomBlachek
    Board 22 clears grid 5 times more often than board 6, over a sample size of 2,500 picks.

    Random, definitely an element of randomness, but not something that can be overlooked.

    Odds are very slim that my boards would fill out this lopsided, particularly over a large sample. If this were truly random there would be a much more equal distribution.
    You need to know how many times you picked a card from each location to know anything at all about this.

    Did you keep track of exactly how many times you picked a card from every position? Not just the number of rares or energies.

    If you didn't do that, then everything you are doing is statistically unprovable.
    Go Colts, Go Irish!!

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    • doctorhay53
      MVP
      • Aug 2005
      • 1360

      #2702
      re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

      Originally posted by doctorhay53
      You need to know how many times you picked a card from each location to know anything at all about this.

      Did you keep track of exactly how many times you picked a card from every position? Not just the number of rares or energies.

      If you didn't do that, then everything you are doing is statistically unprovable.
      Let me also explain the biggest problem with what you're doing.

      You're picking the board in a specific order every time. Turty's draft pattern. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, because when a pick clears a board, you never get to the locations that are after that position on turty's pattern.

      So locations that are early on in turty's pattern will ALWAYS look like they are preferred, unless you keep track of the PERCENTAGE RATE of how often a specific location clears the board compared to the total number of times you actually picked a card from that location.

      I'm not trying to be a jerk here but what you've done is useless from a statistical perspective because you are always clearing locations in a specific order.
      Go Colts, Go Irish!!

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      • diskopo
        Rookie
        • Oct 2012
        • 321

        #2703
        re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

        Originally posted by doctorhay53
        Let me also explain the biggest problem with what you're doing.

        You're picking the board in a specific order every time. Turty's draft pattern. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, because when a pick clears a board, you never get to the locations that are after that position on turty's pattern.

        So locations that are early on in turty's pattern will ALWAYS look like they are preferred, unless you keep track of the PERCENTAGE RATE of how often a specific location clears the board compared to the total number of times you actually picked a card from that location.

        I'm not trying to be a jerk here but what you've done is useless from a statistical perspective because you are always clearing locations in a specific order.

        Great explanation.


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        • dontloveme
          Rookie
          • Jan 2014
          • 57

          #2704
          re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

          I think most of us would be done at avg 2000, without an epic pro or legend there isn't much improvement you can do

          This is after 3200-850


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          • MinewX
            Rookie
            • Jan 2014
            • 54

            #2705
            re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

            so there you can see my cards.. I played about 1500 games and there is no epic card -.-

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            • mreye3814
              Rookie
              • Jan 2014
              • 20

              #2706
              re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

              Im about to give into the hack. I'm getting tired of losing in the season mode. can anyone point me in the right direction? PM me

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              • Shokase
                Banned
                • Dec 2013
                • 1063

                #2707
                re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                Whatever u do dont give these greedy kon artists your money.

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                • knicksforlife
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 20

                  #2708
                  re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                  Originally posted by mreye3814
                  Im about to give into the hack. I'm getting tired of losing in the season mode. can anyone point me in the right direction? PM me
                  Same. If somebody can give me any info at all I'd be happy. I'm just tired of getting beat every season by these kids who probably use their parent's credit card and rack up $1000 and have all the legends.

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                  • diskopo
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 321

                    #2709
                    re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                    Originally posted by Shokase
                    Whatever u do dont give these greedy kon artists your money.

                    Yeah those sons of bitches! How dare they want some money for their work.


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                    • diskopo
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 321

                      #2710
                      re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                      Originally posted by MinewX
                      so there you can see my cards.. I played about 1500 games and there is no epic card -.-


                      Yeah our estimates are that it's on average 1000, not that you're guaranteed an epic every 1000 wins.


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                      • TomBlachek
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 164

                        #2711
                        re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                        I am keeping track of exactly where I'm pulling cards, I included the layout at the bottom of the original post.

                        I am not drafting exclusively in Turtles order, I am using his order to illustrate the card locations based off of his number system, IE. 1 was not card #1 in row 1/column 1, but card 2 in row/column 2.

                        I switched out methods multiple times, and kept track in seperate places so compiling the list I utilized turtles method as well as spiraling outwards from the center.

                        I don't think there are more than 1 clearing card on each board, so the remaining cards that I didn't select would not have contained anything other than a common or uncommon.

                        Feel free to compile your lists of what you get and where to add to the list. If you want to get 100 board clears at each location you will need play some games. If my rate is upheld in certain locations you would need approximately 84,000 cards to get at least 100 clears mentioned.

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                        • BoAKwon
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 196

                          #2712
                          re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                          Originally posted by Shokase
                          Whatever u do dont give these greedy kon artists your money.
                          Why do you even play this game? You complain about them wanting money. It sucks that the game is pay to win now, but that's how free games usually end up being anyways. It should especially be expected from a game made by 2k

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                          • mreye3814
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 20

                            #2713
                            re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                            Originally posted by Shokase
                            Whatever u do dont give these greedy kon artists your money.
                            i refuse to pay for a legendary card come on now

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                            • mreye3814
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 20

                              #2714
                              re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                              Originally posted by knicksforlife
                              Same. If somebody can give me any info at all I'd be happy. I'm just tired of getting beat every season by these kids who probably use their parent's credit card and rack up $1000 and have all the legends.
                              someone here has to know how the hack works or where to download it? I've tried but it always sends me to random internet surveys shyt is never ending someone help!!!!

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                              • doctorhay53
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 1360

                                #2715
                                re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                                Originally posted by TomBlachek
                                I am keeping track of exactly where I'm pulling cards, I included the layout at the bottom of the original post.

                                I am not drafting exclusively in Turtles order, I am using his order to illustrate the card locations based off of his number system, IE. 1 was not card #1 in row 1/column 1, but card 2 in row/column 2.

                                I switched out methods multiple times, and kept track in seperate places so compiling the list I utilized turtles method as well as spiraling outwards from the center.

                                I don't think there are more than 1 clearing card on each board, so the remaining cards that I didn't select would not have contained anything other than a common or uncommon.

                                Feel free to compile your lists of what you get and where to add to the list. If you want to get 100 board clears at each location you will need play some games. If my rate is upheld in certain locations you would need approximately 84,000 cards to get at least 100 clears mentioned.
                                I don't think you understand why what you've done is incorrect. You need to know the percentage chance that a specific location has an energy/rare/whatever. The only way to do that is to literally count every single card that is drawn from every single location. It is NOT enough to count the energies or rares you get from each location, because you are drawing the cards from the same pattern, and when you get an energy or rare, the whole board is reset and you start over. Even if you alternate between Turty's pattern and an outward spiral, you will not have equal numbers of drafts from every location on the entire grid. This will greatly, greatly bias your results. There is simply no way whatsoever to interpret what you've posted without knowing exactly how many times you've drafted from each of the grid locations.

                                I analyze data for a living. I am telling you that with what you've posted, there are no valid conclusions. You absolutely must count the number of draft picks taken from every single location on the draft board (including all commons, uncommons, rares, energies, epics, or legendaries).

                                If you do so then we can calculate the percentage chance of resetting the board at every single grid location. And then and ONLY THEN can we start to decide whether there is a pattern.

                                I would want to see at least 100 board resets from every single grid location before I would even start to compare probabilities. That means at least 3000 picks worth of accounting. Maybe, maybe one epic. And not enough rares to really get good counting statistics for each location.

                                If you really want to do this, I will do the calculations. But I will not do the counting. I think this exercise is a waste of time, and that the server tells you your card and that it's random and each board is not a defined card that you just turn over, but a placeholder and the server tells you what you get. But if you want to do it right, count every draft pick from every location and I will compare them. It doesn't matter if it's a common or uncommon, but for every grid location, I would need:
                                - total number of not-board-resetting draft picks taken (i.e. commons and uncommons taken)
                                - number of energies
                                -number of rares
                                -number of epics
                                -number of legendaries
                                - just to reiterate again, I would need these numbers broken down individually for every draft board location.

                                edit: it is possible if you use exactly the same pattern for every board clearing to calculate the number of picks for each location. But you still must do alot of work to determine if there is a legitimate pattern, and it is less than ideal because the first pick location will have the most picks, and every other location will decline in the order of your picking pattern.
                                Last edited by doctorhay53; 01-18-2014, 10:23 PM.
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