RC Reward Structure. We need a change.

[PsyGoesNova]

Re: RC Reward Structure. We need a change.

All this 'free player' talk as defense to everything being suggested is starting to get annoying. Thats not even the point, lol. The point here is that the rewards for people who consistently put GREATER EFFORT (regardless if he bought his RP with credits or not) should be substantially better than people who choose not to. What is so hard to understand? Its not like everyone who places in the top 100 gets their RP via credit conversion (which is utter CD bull). Everyone is a "FREE" player in regards to making RP. Aside from the Star Contracts I bought, I am as free as any player can be free.

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[RogerSanchez]

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You need RP to compete during rc. RP is FREE, so how would free players not be able to compete with the higher point totals?


I ranked 55 w/ 16,003 points and got reb/pm spec. The OP had 6k points and got pm spec. Rebound spec on a point guard is useless so yeah that's pretty much the same reward. Now im not complaining about the specs, I don't mind them being random, but 10,000 point difference for just one extra spec needs to be changed.

If gap between #1 and #25 is big enough then top players might complain that it is not fair they get the same rewards as it is not fair that somebody spends 100k and gets no wc and somebody spends only 5k and gets couple of it. It's just a game - if you don't like it or think its unfair - just leave it. If TV sucks, you don't watch it, if food stinks you don't eat it. if 2K16 app makes you feel bad, just deleted it. Or stop being DeMarcus Cousins and wipe the tears and enjoy

[PsyGoesNova]

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RogerSanchez, where do you finish every RC and RTTC?

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[CedricFP]

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You need RP to compete during rc. RP is FREE, so how would free players not be able to compete with the higher point totals?


I ranked 55 w/ 16,003 points and got reb/pm spec. The OP had 6k points and got pm spec. Rebound spec on a point guard is useless so yeah that's pretty much the same reward. Now im not complaining about the specs, I don't mind them being random, but 10,000 point difference for just one extra spec needs to be changed.

No offense, but you knew the reward structure going in. Joke's on you, pal.

There should be a change, but that a bunch of people still grind like mad men for mediocre rewards will ensure CD doesn't make a change, at least until Star Tier drops. They're happy with their RP sink for what is ultimately a slightly better card.

[CedricFP]

Re: RC Reward Structure. We need a change.

If gap between #1 and #25 is big enough then top players might complain that it is not fair they get the same rewards as it is not fair that somebody spends 100k and gets no wc and somebody spends only 5k and gets couple of it. It's just a game - if you don't like it or think its unfair - just leave it. If TV sucks, you don't watch it, if food stinks you don't eat it. if 2K16 app makes you feel bad, just deleted it. Or stop being DeMarcus Cousins and wipe the tears and enjoy

I buy the same crappy sandwich every day for work, and every day it SUCKS!

Every day I complain to the sandwich shop: Dude, make better sandwiches, okay?

But even though he doesn't, I still buy the sandwich, even though I don't have to.

You ask me, the sandwich maker is laughing and counting his $$$.

[Danab]

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No offense, but you knew the reward structure going in. Joke's on you, pal.

There should be a change, but that a bunch of people still grind like mad men for mediocre rewards will ensure CD doesn't make a change, at least until Star Tier drops. They're happy with their RP sink for what is ultimately a slightly better card.

I get what you are trying to say, why would CD change reward when people already grind like crazy thus ensuring CD' get their $$$... Everything is a deliberate choice here. Well it's true, but those ****ty rewards are discouraging.


Furthermore,. Top 100 as hard as it is, is way easier compared to last year. so CD may be losing some bucks here.

Also many people I know who ranked top 100 won't be doing so anymore for same reward. OFC the sample of this people does not represent the entire population of players but trust me it's a relatively large portion of people who ranks in top 100 consistently. I truly think this will hurt the game in the long run.

[leslie701]

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I'm in the top 100 for 3 of the RCs and I won't be going for it for the next one unless the rewards change or it becomes worthwhile.

[CedricFP]

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I get what you are trying to say, why would CD change reward when people already grind like crazy thus ensuring CD' get their $$$... Everything is a deliberate choice here. Well it's true, but those ****ty rewards are discouring.


Furthermore,. Top 100 as hard as it is, is way easier compared to last year. so CD may be losing so bucks here.

Also many people I know who ranked top 100 won't be doing so anymore for same reward. OFC the sample of this people does not represent the entire population of players but trust me it's a relatively large portion of people who ranks in top 100 consistently. I truly think this will hurt the game in the long run.

I agree. The rewards are bad and have dis-incentivised placing high for many. In fact, some people have even quit the game who were regular top-100'ers last year.

However, I feel that for the people who are still spending 3x as much time and/or money (virtual or real) to place in the top 100 are not exercising their vote IF they are disappointed in their rewards.

The old adage goes vote with your wallet, and this applies to time as it is also our currency.

I just can't really get behind the "I scored 3x as many points as you using my time/money/virtual money and my card is practically the same as yours! (But I knew that it would be going in.)" type of complaint. It doesn't illustrate the crappy rewards because you still grinded for them!*

As for the financials on CD's side, I have no idea honestly. I'd guess, though, that they'll make a change to events if they're doing worse financially than they projected to on events.

*Something is worth what you pay for it, be it in RP, cash, or time. If you paid for it using any of those 3 currencies, than you deemed it 'worth it', especially since you knew what the likely result would be going in (2 specs, 1 likely to be undesirable).

[ActionJack]

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The "vote with your wallet" argument is cool, but you're taking it too seriously. Nobody here is trying to affect major social change. We don't need to engage in economic warfare.

People are recognizing a small issue with a mobile card game, and made a thread with the goal of their thoughts being seen and considered by the game's producer. That should be enough.

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[CedricFP]

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We all knew the rewards (at the top end) were terrible from the first RC, and yet people still grinded out insane points. We're sending a mixed message to CD. Scripters also cloud the issue as they are no doubt spending RP as well.

It's not the first time somebody has complained about the RC rewards, though you are right it is the first thread dedicated to the issue.

My feeling is, if you got a problem with the top 100 reward, don't go for top 100. Make a post about it all you want, but if you're still putting up those point totals, you're allowing CD to say that they don't have to make a change -- a change would cost money, man hours, and testing for balancing, and possible rebalancing later.

[RogerSanchez]

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RogerSanchez, where do you finish every RC and RTTC?

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I dont play RTTC and foil leg is my max. I cant afford myself tapping whole weekend ..


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[PsyGoesNova]

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Okay Roger. So that means you don't know how the top 100 feel. Please dont dismiss our thoughts on the rewards because that is missing the whole point of the thread entirely.

But hey, sorry for being competitive in a competitive event like RC. I guess we are all just whiners and cry babies who dont exercise our right to vote.

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[Souf sia 4 lia]

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I agree with the premise and I'm a casual player. Those who can afford the long haul grind should be rewarded accordingly, yet still leaving decent rewards for those of us who can't make that commitment, because of family, work, school or other life choices. I try to stay realistic, I never go into an RC expecting to get the best rewards. A single spec Iggy is the best I've done and this last RC I shot for a foil Leg and was able to pull it off for both my accounts. And guess what, I'm absolutely content with the rewards I receive.

As long as us casual players aren't alienated, I'm all for rewarding the thoroughbreds who put in countless hours to get to the top.

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[cdogg777]

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Sad truth is, if CD is getting the participation and credits spent, unless you come up with a unique way for them to make MORE money, they aren't going to change anything.

It's become quite apparent that CD has no interest in making their game better. They only improve it if there is a direct or indirect way to generate revenue.

[Danab]

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Sad truth is, if CD is getting the participation and credits spent, unless you come up with a unique way for them to make MORE money, they aren't going to change anything.

It's become quite apparent that CD has no interest in making their game better. They only improve it if there is a direct or indirect way to generate revenue.

I'm sure many people who spend more RP in order to place in top 100 if rewards were more enticing.
==> Maybe some people whould buy credit and convert them into Rp (a very small fraction of people IMO) or more likely people whould have to spend more RP and therefore have less RP for extra packs, meaning (maybe) more star contracts purchased.