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  • Smokey
    Rookie
    • Dec 2004
    • 273

    #1

    Is this game really that bad????

    I havent seen many nice things being said about this game, is it really that bad?
  • delanceyj
    Pro
    • Oct 2002
    • 638

    #2
    Re: Is this game really that bad????

    Originally posted by Smokey
    I havent seen many nice things being said about this game, is it really that bad?

    Are you on the right forum?


    Nevermind.. I was in the wrong forum..

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    • Smokey
      Rookie
      • Dec 2004
      • 273

      #3
      Re: Is this game really that bad????

      Originally posted by delanceyj
      Are you on the right forum?


      Nevermind.. I was in the wrong forum..

      LOL

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      • sirjam
        MVP
        • Oct 2002
        • 3535

        #4
        Re: Is this game really that bad????

        Originally posted by Smokey
        I havent seen many nice things being said about this game, is it really that bad?
        To each its own. I like the game alot. The fastbreaks are incredible. The superstars stand out like no other game I have ever seen. The graphics are better than last year 720p and all.

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        • p2xgamers
          All Star
          • Jul 2002
          • 4735

          #5
          Re: Is this game really that bad????

          No its not bad but I am not super impressed, but I think with slider adjustments it could be an alright sim game.
          Lifelong Bengals and Buckeyes fan...yeah...

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          • KBomber
            Pro
            • Nov 2003
            • 512

            #6
            Re: Is this game really that bad????

            I don't think that the game is necessarily "bad". To me there are a couple of issues that make it tough for me to qualify as a game I need to buy:

            1. I think it's slid back into more of an arcade feel from Live 2005. While that isn't a sin, my preferences lie more on the sim side

            2. While there are some areas that have been improved, the difference between this game and Live 2005 isn't overly vast from my vantage point , so if I want an "arcade-sim", I already own 2005, why shell out another $70 CDN for a game that is, ostensibly, already in my collection

            If you are a die-hard Live fan, or don't have Live 2005, I think there is enough here to warrant the buy. If you aren't a die hard or have the 2005 game then you may have the latitude to say "what do I really want/need in my collection?". For me the answer skews more towards not buying, but that's my preference. If you are desperate for a 2006 NBA title, then this is likely your choice if you want something a little more accessible and less technically challenging as a hoops sim. There are still a lot of good things going on here for people interested in the Live-style of play

            Have fun.............
            Basketball made me the man I am today; Arthritic and Bitter...

            What I think I think:
            • Y'know, I've never played less NBA 2K than I did with NBA 2K12
            • Sports VG titles were REALLY disappointing in 2011-12
            • Thank Heaven for ME3 and Arkham City -- saved my winter

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            • sirjam
              MVP
              • Oct 2002
              • 3535

              #7
              Re: Is this game really that bad????

              Originally posted by KBomber
              I don't think that the game is necessarily "bad". To me there are a couple of issues that make it tough for me to qualify as a game I need to buy:

              1. I think it's slid back into more of an arcade feel from Live 2005. While that isn't a sin, my preferences lie more on the sim side

              2. While there are some areas that have been improved, the difference between this game and Live 2005 isn't overly vast from my vantage point , so if I want an "arcade-sim", I already own 2005, why shell out another $70 CDN for a game that is, ostensibly, already in my collection

              If you are a die-hard Live fan, or don't have Live 2005, I think there is enough here to warrant the buy. If you aren't a die hard or have the 2005 game then you may have the latitude to say "what do I really want/need in my collection?". For me the answer skews more towards not buying, but that's my preference. If you are desperate for a 2006 NBA title, then this is likely your choice if you want something a little more accessible and less technically challenging as a hoops sim. There are still a lot of good things going on here for people interested in the Live-style of play

              Have fun.............
              I just can't understand what you guys are seeing. The game is so much different than 05 its crazy. The superstars the plays the breaks, the a.i., everything. I think its detering people from buying by saying its almost the same. I am not seeing the same game at all.

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              • blazersin2k3
                Pro
                • Feb 2003
                • 402

                #8
                Re: Is this game really that bad????

                its ok, i got it yesterday but im now waiting to pickup nba 2k6. they are raving about it over in the 2k6 board. the graphics have improved and the superstar controls are pretty cool.

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                • KBomber
                  Pro
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 512

                  #9
                  Re: Is this game really that bad????

                  Originally posted by sirjam
                  I just can't understand what you guys are seeing. The game is so much different than 05 its crazy. The superstars the plays the breaks, the a.i., everything. I think its detering people from buying by saying its almost the same. I am not seeing the same game at all.
                  I didn't say it's exactly the same, I said it's more arcade-like than 2005 and as such is less of a requirement for me as a purchase. The superstar feature is a big part of why the gameplay is now so skewed.

                  As for the AI, it is not tremendously advanced and you can still shut down the CPU with the same relative ease as with Live 2005. I hate to tell you, but Live isn't a technically brilliant representation of basketball and is purpose built as such by EA, whose stated focus is to deliver an accessible and entertaining game

                  PS: BTW, don't worry, with all the in-store "plants" and their organized push to have Live and 2k6 merchandised differently at the retail level, I don't think EA will be in line at the local soup kitchen any time soon

                  Have fun............
                  Basketball made me the man I am today; Arthritic and Bitter...

                  What I think I think:
                  • Y'know, I've never played less NBA 2K than I did with NBA 2K12
                  • Sports VG titles were REALLY disappointing in 2011-12
                  • Thank Heaven for ME3 and Arkham City -- saved my winter

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                  • sirjam
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 3535

                    #10
                    Re: Is this game really that bad????

                    Originally posted by KBomber
                    I didn't say it's exactly the same, I said it's more arcade-like than 2005 and as such is less of a requirement for me as a purchase. The superstar feature is a big part of why the gameplay is now so skewed.

                    As for the AI, it is not tremendously advanced and you can still shut down the CPU with the same relative ease as with Live 2005. I hate to tell you, but Live isn't a technically brilliant representation of basketball and is purpose built as such by EA, whose stated focus is to deliver an accessible and entertaining game

                    PS: BTW, don't worry, with all the in-store "plants" and their organized push to have Live and 2k6 merchandised differently at the retail level, I don't think EA will be in line at the local soup kitchen any time soon

                    Have fun............
                    I think you should play the Suns or someone with a good rating on the higher levels and you will see its not easy to stop them. I wasn't saying you personally, I was saying people in general.

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                    • KBomber
                      Pro
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 512

                      #11
                      Re: Is this game really that bad????

                      Originally posted by sirjam
                      I think you should play the Suns or someone with a good rating on the higher levels and you will see its not easy to stop them. I wasn't saying you personally, I was saying people in general.
                      I played Washington and New Jersey on Superstar with the Raptors and won by 20 and 40 plus margins in 8 minute quarters with the default settings. I was able to get shots from all parts of the floor and racked up stats that I would characterize as being fantastic using player performances that boggled reality given that the guys leading the charge were players like Joey Graham, Rafer Alston and Raphael Araujo

                      I'll stand by my comment that it isn't tremendously challenging to overwhelm the CPU AI in this title. Like I said, it's a fun game, but not a true sim, although I appreciate that they tried something old in the vein of something new which is to be commended. That effort, in the form of the Superstar feature is what has upset the balance of the game from progressing into a sim to a return to its arcadey roots

                      I'm going to keep trying it the next couple of nights until Blockbuster calls, by those are my early impressions


                      Have fun...............
                      Basketball made me the man I am today; Arthritic and Bitter...

                      What I think I think:
                      • Y'know, I've never played less NBA 2K than I did with NBA 2K12
                      • Sports VG titles were REALLY disappointing in 2011-12
                      • Thank Heaven for ME3 and Arkham City -- saved my winter

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                      • rawdog805
                        MVP
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 2788

                        #12
                        Re: Is this game really that bad????

                        I am really enjoying live more, this year than any in recent memory... I am not really all that impressed with NBA 2k6, mainly because of the Isomotion 3 system...

                        But I like both games... I cant wait to but the Xbox 360 versions...
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                        • DW Rutledge
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 686

                          #13
                          Re: Is this game really that bad????

                          Originally posted by KBomber
                          I played Washington and New Jersey on Superstar with the Raptors and won by 20 and 40 plus margins in 8 minute quarters with the default settings. I was able to get shots from all parts of the floor and racked up stats that I would characterize as being fantastic using player performances that boggled reality given that the guys leading the charge were players like Joey Graham, Rafer Alston and Raphael Araujo

                          I'll stand by my comment that it isn't tremendously challenging to overwhelm the CPU AI in this title. Like I said, it's a fun game, but not a true sim, although I appreciate that they tried something old in the vein of something new which is to be commended. That effort, in the form of the Superstar feature is what has upset the balance of the game from progressing into a sim to a return to its arcadey roots

                          I'm going to keep trying it the next couple of nights until Blockbuster calls, by those are my early impressions


                          Have fun...............

                          i challenge the validity of your claims. i could just as easily go onto the 2k board and claim the game sucks because i school the cpu by 50 on the highest level with the worst team...

                          grow up dude and just go play the game you like.

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                          • KBomber
                            Pro
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 512

                            #14
                            Re: Is this game really that bad????

                            Originally posted by DW Rutledge
                            i challenge the validity of your claims. i could just as easily go onto the 2k board and claim the game sucks because i school the cpu by 50 on the highest level with the worst team...

                            grow up dude and just go play the game you like.
                            Hang on.

                            What I have said is that when I played the game, those were the results.

                            What I have said is that the gameplay skews a little too much on the arcade side of things when compared to Live 2005, which I both like and own

                            What I have said is that the game is a fun one -- similar to Live 2005

                            What I have said is that, per EA, Live is purpose built as a game intended to be accessible and entertaining with a secondary objective of meeting simulative requirements

                            What I have said is that when looking at Live 2005, for me, I don't see Live 2006 as a purchase opportunity, for me, because much of the gameplay is not that different from 2005, for me

                            What I have said is that there are definitely improvements in the area of graphics (marginally) and there are enhancements in animations

                            What I have said is that from an AI stand point, Live has never been a technically focussed game of basketball -- again, purposely, by plan of EA. When I play Live, it's a much more casual experience for me when compared to other sims like C-Hoops 2k5 or ID 2004

                            What I've said is that as a result of how Live is purpose built, for me, it is not difficult to attack the CPU and glean decent results without massive effort -- the game is made for neophytes technically. I've got almost 30 years of experience in the game of basketball, so that isn't surprising

                            I haven't at any juncture made a claim that Live sucks.

                            What I've said is that as a purchase, it may not make sense for me this year

                            I hope that clears it up for you

                            Have fun.............
                            Last edited by KBomber; 09-28-2005, 03:20 PM.
                            Basketball made me the man I am today; Arthritic and Bitter...

                            What I think I think:
                            • Y'know, I've never played less NBA 2K than I did with NBA 2K12
                            • Sports VG titles were REALLY disappointing in 2011-12
                            • Thank Heaven for ME3 and Arkham City -- saved my winter

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                            • Court_vision
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 8290

                              #15
                              Re: Is this game really that bad????

                              Hey there K

                              I have to say...IMO...it's infinitely better than LIVE05.

                              Personally, I can't see how anyone rates LIVE05 higher...that game had no fast breaks and no play sets + no team differences. I'd be hard pressed to rate LIVE 05 any higher than about 4/10.

                              LIVE06 has all of those things addressed...which makes it infinitely more of a 'SIM' IMO. Play sets being the key...

                              The more I play it though, I do agree that the superstar options are 'overdone'.

                              My personal playing style is that I don't use those much though and I'm playing with the Wolves who, KG aside, don't have anyone with those abilities. Maybe I notice it less for this reason.

                              The game is a long way short of perfect and it's still "LIVE Basketball" in many, many ways.

                              Much better than LIVE 05 though IMO...

                              Still not 'hard core' SIM...but the only LIVE i've been able to play for a few days without throwing in the direction of the bin...

                              Hope your well

                              Monk

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