Is this game really that bad????

[KBomber]

Re: Is this game really that bad????

How about the 20 page thread from the review from IGN?

It appears people were expecting a higher grade and somehow started shooting darts at the reviewer, IGN as a whole, and EA.

I don't speak for Bordeaux, it's just my opinion.

Let me just say that I love when everything in the world that happens on the 2K Sports boards gets attributed to me personally. This would be a great example of that.

In 22 pages of posts in the thread related to media coverage about NBA 2K6, here are the 2 posts that I made. Get ready for the vitriole

Post any information or comments related to online or conventional media reviews in this thread


Have fun.............

Sports games are often knocked for only being evolutionary from year to year. The really jaded among us dismiss the yearly releases of football, basketball, baseball, and hockey games as nothing more than roster updates. The more reasonable among us know that there are only so many ways we can translate the act of throwing a ball into a hoop or striking a ball with a stick. While not quite a revolutionary step, NBA 2K6 did take a big chance with the modifications made to its isomotion juke system and the shot stick control. And, for the most part, the changes turned out to be fantastic. While the tweaks to isomotion and shooting are the most obvious improvements made to an already solid basketball simulation, it's the leaps forward in artificial intelligence that ultimately define NBA 2K6's quality

I think that says it all for me and is why I'm a fan of VC

Have fun..............

The last comment is related to an observation that is very similar to one I made on these boards. Here is the comment from these boards

IN 2003, VC shipped NBA 2k4. It was a game that was incomplete. Playing the game I knew where VC was trying to get to. Even as half a game, I found it exceeded Live 2004. You know what, I cut VC a lot of slack on NBA 2k4 as a lot of gamers were jumping ship and saying what garbage the game was. Could it have been better? Sure it could have, but in all the years that VC was getting games out there, NBA 2K4 was maybe the first that had big issues. How did VC repay me, the very next year they gave me NBA 2k5 and College Hoops 2k5, both of which were great games. You know what, I can live with that as a company who is trying to do the right thing for me as a gamer.

I moderate a board with 47000 members in conjunction with 6 other people, none of which are full-time. The site as a whole is dedicated to one company's offerings. That's why I discuss other games on these boards. These boards are supposed to be about a broader range of games and I make my point with an interest in being fair. Have I commented on NBA 2k6 here? No, I haven't. Mostly because I haven't played it yet as I'm still waiting for my copy that is in transit.

Relative to the comments that I've made on Live, if you think that they are that out of line, I'd recommend that you have a gander at what other reviewers and members have said about the game and compare. Go look at what I've said, tell me where I've been unfair. Basically what happens on these boards is that I make a comment and people flame me. They don't talk to me about what I've actually said, they flame me and assign every comment made on the 2K Sports boards to the umbrella of "K Bomber"

So like I've said, go look at what I've written and when I've written it. And before anyone does so, don't bother digging up comments on NBA Live 2004. I've said that I didn't like that game more than once. I've also said that of all the 2005 basketball games, Live 2005 was the one that made the greatest leap in quality, so if you're going to try and slag me, maybe work on getting your facts right

Have fun...............

[Bordeaux9196]

Re: Is this game really that bad????

Let me just say that I love when everything in the world that happens on the 2K Sports boards gets attributed to me personally. This would be a great example of that.

In 22 pages of posts in the thread related to media coverage about NBA 2K6, here are the 2 posts that I made. Get ready for the vitriole




The last comment is related to an observation that is very similar to one I made on these boards. Here is the comment from these boards


I moderate a board with 47000 members in conjunction with 6 other people, none of which are full-time. The site as a whole is dedicated to one company's offerings. That's why I discuss other games on these boards. These boards are supposed to be about a broader range of games and I make my point with an interest in being fair. Have I commented on NBA 2k6 here? No, I haven't. Mostly because I haven't played it yet as I'm still waiting for my copy that is in transit.

Relative to the comments that I've made on Live, if you think that they are that out of line, I'd recommend that you have a gander at what other reviewers and members have said about the game and compare. Go look at what I've said, tell me where I've been unfair. Basically what happens on these boards is that I make a comment and people flame me. They don't talk to me about what I've actually said, they flame me and assign every comment made on the 2K Sports boards to the umbrella of "K Bomber"

So like I've said, go look at what I've written and when I've written it. And before anyone does so, don't bother digging up comments on NBA Live 2004. I've said that I didn't like that game more than once. I've also said that of all the 2005 basketball games, Live 2005 was the one that made the greatest leap in quality, so if you're going to try and slag me, maybe work on getting your facts right

Have fun...............

Fine, you love Live, that's great. Glad to hear it.

[KBomber]

Re: Is this game really that bad????

Fine, you love Live, that's great. Glad to hear it.

I like Live. My comment all along has been that I didn't know if it made sense for me to buy it this year for a number of reasons. Everything else has just been observation of gameplay which many like yourself here seem to have issues with for the sake that it was me saying it.

Like HMcCoy said:

LOL @ this becoming a "we hate KBomber " thread

Have a nice day

Have fun...............

[roadman]

Re: Is this game really that bad????

Let me just say that I love when everything in the world that happens on the 2K Sports boards gets attributed to me personally. This would be a great example of that.

In 22 pages of posts in the thread related to media coverage about NBA 2K6, here are the 2 posts that I made. Get ready for the vitriole

I'm not sure where you thought I was singling you out in that thread.

It's not your comments, but it's all the other negative comments in that 22 page thread. That's why it's 22 pages long, filled with negative comments(again, not from you) but from others.

Bordeaux said if you say one negative thing about 2k6, especially in the IGN thread, then the reviewer, IGN and EA are all evil.

I was just agreeing with Bordeaux.

[sirjam]

Re: Is this game really that bad????

I have been reading on other sites about this game. For some reason its getting flamed all over. Thats fine to each its own. The problem I have is people saying that its not much different than live 05. Well I am glad that I got the special copy because mine is totally different. Here is some ex:


05 no fast breaks
06 plenty of breaks
05 no plays
06 plays that work
05 animations slow
06 fluid animations
05 no distinction between superstars
06 do I really need to comment
05 teams play same
06 teams play much different
05 super catch up speed on superstar and allstar
06 non existent on any level
05 no atmosphere
06 great atmosphere
05 some go to players non factor
06 very much a factor

Thats a few of the differences on my game. Like I said I am glad I am one of the few that got the special copy.


Oh yeah I do agree with the guys about 2k6, you will get bombed if you say anything neg.

[Court_vision]

Re: Is this game really that bad????

LOL

I understand all of what you're saying, bro...even if I don't agree with all of it. IMO, the Superstar moves kill 2 birds with one stone. They allow the casuals another way to cheese until their hearts content, and it allows us Live "simmers" to add beautiful, fluid, real-life flourishes to our game. I solid sim player will only pull those when appropriate, just like the pro hop.

Anyway, after 3 days with both, fans of both franchises should be absolutely giddy with delight with both offerings, considering there are far superior versions of each due out in just 2 short months.

Macca nails it.

As always...

[Court_vision]

Re: Is this game really that bad????

I have been reading on other sites about this game. For some reason its getting flamed all over. Thats fine to each its own. The problem I have is people saying that its not much different than live 05. Well I am glad that I got the special copy because mine is totally different. Here is some ex:


05 no fast breaks
06 plenty of breaks
05 no plays
06 plays that work
05 animations slow
06 fluid animations
05 no distinction between superstars
06 do I really need to comment
05 teams play same
06 teams play much different
05 super catch up speed on superstar and allstar
06 non existent on any level
05 no atmosphere
06 great atmosphere
05 some go to players non factor
06 very much a factor

Thats a few of the differences on my game. Like I said I am glad I am one of the few that got the special copy.


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I got that copy also

It's why I have stated here repeatedly that LIVE 06 is "infinitely" better than LIVE05.

Is it perfect? No. Not by a long way.

Is it better than 2K6? Seems unlikely.

Is it better than LIVE 05? Absolutely...for all the reasons you listed above.

[KBomber]

Re: Is this game really that bad????

Oh yeah I do agree with the guys about 2k6, you will get bombed if you say anything neg.

SHow me where I've "bombed" anyone for having an opinion on the game.

Have fun..............

[luv_mist]

Re: Is this game really that bad????

Very interesting conversation I'm seeing here. Ironically, I can understand where you kats are coming from with the "don't say a word of hate towards NBA 2K6". The reason is because of the credible reviews that are being dropped. Those people who review for some sites aren't "qualified" to even give a review about the sport if they don't know about it. Both games have their push for different parts of basketball fans. One part is more sim while the other is more casual. Nothing wrong with either.

So far, the reviews that have been dropped just seem quite questionable. A question I have is have you guys played both games yet? Just curious. Of course, I'm a 2K fan with a big trust in that company only because I see basketball in them more than EA sometimes. EA does have the basketball I see and I still get them. I'm trying to be more open minded with where I'm going with my taste for sports now. Forget NBA 2K6 for a minute. Do you guys honestly feel that the reviews that ya'll have seen have been a correct depiction of what ya'll are playing: score w/review?? Just curious. If I wrote anything flamatory on here, disregard because I'm just excited to be on the internet once again. Point it out if you must. That's you....

[bigeastbumrush]

Re: Is this game really that bad????

Very interesting conversation I'm seeing here. Ironically, I can understand where you kats are coming from with the "don't say a word of hate towards NBA 2K6". The reason is because of the credible reviews that are being dropped. Those people who review for some sites aren't "qualified" to even give a review about the sport if they don't know about it. Both games have their push for different parts of basketball fans. One part is more sim while the other is more casual. Nothing wrong with either.

So far, the reviews that have been dropped just seem quite questionable. A question I have is have you guys played both games yet? Just curious. Of course, I'm a 2K fan with a big trust in that company only because I see basketball in them more than EA sometimes. EA does have the basketball I see and I still get them. I'm trying to be more open minded with where I'm going with my taste for sports now. Forget NBA 2K6 for a minute. Do you guys honestly feel that the reviews that ya'll have seen have been a correct depiction of what ya'll are playing: score w/review?? Just curious. If I wrote anything flamatory on here, disregard because I'm just excited to be on the internet once again. Point it out if you must. That's you....

No disrespect man but...
Both games are in stores. What's a review to you? Buy or rent. Sell it back or keep it. You have to make your own decision regardless of any review.

You play to your likes, not what others may influence you to do whether a review or a comment or a message board tells you otherwise.

Simple solution.

[luv_mist]

Re: Is this game really that bad????

No disrespect man but...
Both games are in stores. What's a review to you? Buy or rent. Sell it back or keep it. You have to make your own decision regardless of any review.

You play to your likes, not what others may influence you to do whether a review or a comment or a message board tells you otherwise.

Simple solution.

No offense but if the question was something that you weren't not going to answer in a way that would be appropriate to me, then why answer it? I know you're a Live fanboy to the heart. I understand that you're defending your company. I'm asking a question as to how honest the reviews were for those who were playing the game. I haven't read any of them due to me not being online on a constant basis. My decision, just like many others, is a decision that I have from my own experience, but just like any other thing in the world....I like to hear from others. Good reasons to hear about opinions from others: Cars, televisions, computers, gaming, female friends....ect.

As I was posting before: Do you guys honestly feel that the reviews that ya'll have seen have been a correct depiction of what ya'll are playing: score w/review?? Just curious. If I wrote anything flamatory on here, disregard because I'm just excited to be on the internet once again. Point it out if you must. That's you....

[roadman]

Re: Is this game really that bad????

Very interesting conversation I'm seeing here. Ironically, I can understand where you kats are coming from with the "don't say a word of hate towards NBA 2K6". The reason is because of the credible reviews that are being dropped. Those people who review for some sites aren't "qualified" to even give a review about the sport if they don't know about it. Both games have their push for different parts of basketball fans. One part is more sim while the other is more casual. Nothing wrong with either.

So far, the reviews that have been dropped just seem quite questionable. A question I have is have you guys played both games yet? Just curious. Of course, I'm a 2K fan with a big trust in that company only because I see basketball in them more than EA sometimes. EA does have the basketball I see and I still get them. I'm trying to be more open minded with where I'm going with my taste for sports now. Forget NBA 2K6 for a minute. Do you guys honestly feel that the reviews that ya'll have seen have been a correct depiction of what ya'll are playing: score w/review?? Just curious. If I wrote anything flamatory on here, disregard because I'm just excited to be on the internet once again. Point it out if you must. That's you....

KBomber;

I think your taking things too personally. I don't see anyone jumping up and down and pointing fingers at you. I think we all are talking "in general", that's the feeling.

Luv mist, I think I've said before in this thread, I'm not qualified to answer which is the better game because all I have is a PC.

Who's defination of a sport game review is gold? Is it someone who has reviewed basketball games before or just games in general? I don't think any of us here knows any of the reviewers personally to qualify a factual answer.

I do agree with bigeastbumrush that the only reviewer that is important is you.
If I see a lousy review of a movie in the paper, does that stop me from going to the next Star Wars installment that comes along. Heck no. It shouldn't deter any of us, either.

I stated this in another thread, I just don't feel you can get nba or nfl accurrate stats based game from the default sliders in either game I haven't met a sports game on PC that has disappointed me in that area. I fiddled around with Madden for a whole month of testing before sliders were NFL ready. I guess my point is, that this sim vs arcade talk , for me, is taken with a grain of salt because I'm confidant I can get sliders in Live that goes very close or spot on the "sim" level feel.

Plus, I haven't played Live on the PC since 04.

This just reminds of me of all the HH vs Triple Play talk years gone by.

[sirjam]

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KBomber;

I think your taking things too personally. I don't see anyone jumping up and down and pointing fingers at you. I think we all are talking "in general", that's the feeling.

Luv mist, I think I've said before in this thread, I'm not qualified to answer which is the better game because all I have is a PC.

Who's defination of a sport game review is gold? Is it someone who has reviewed basketball games before or just games in general? I don't think any of us here knows any of the reviewers personally to qualify a factual answer.

I do agree with bigeastbumrush that the only reviewer that is important is you.
If I see a lousy review of a movie in the paper, does that stop me from going to the next Star Wars installment that comes along. Heck no. It shouldn't deter any of us, either.

I stated this in another thread, I just don't feel you can get nba or nfl accurrate stats based game from the default sliders in either game I haven't met a sports game on PC that has disappointed me in that area. I fiddled around with Madden for a whole month of testing before sliders were NFL ready. I guess my point is, that this sim vs arcade talk , for me, is taken with a grain of salt because I'm confidant I can get sliders in Live that goes very close or spot on the "sim" level feel.

Plus, I haven't played Live on the PC since 04.

This just reminds of me of all the HH vs Triple Play talk years gone by.

Exactly

[nofearsp2007]

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I'm glad i rented this game because if i bought it i would have returned it already. It doesnt seem much different from 05 except superstar players which automatically can be used to cheese with.

[blackceasar]

Re: Is this game really that bad????

Does Live 06 suck? Nah...not really BUT there are other basketball titles out there that I have played this year that for MYSELF I like way more than Live 06...and because there are people out there like me that exist..you know..ones when given a choice migiht not choose the Might EA title, EA will figure out a way sooner or later to make sure if I want an NBA title its gonna be Live or nothing.