ITS OFFICIAL: NO LIVE FOR PS3

[Gary Armida]

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EA fanboys never jump ship for good. If the game comes back next year and gets an average rating of 7, they will buy it.

Why is that a bad thing? If the game comes back to get an average ranking, isn't that good for competition? Why is it a fanboy if someone buys a good game. I could care less about the company; it's the product. If Live is the better bball game, that's the one I will buy. I guess you could say I am a good game fanboy.

[ksolo12]

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I think this is a good move by EA. What in the world happened to the NBA live series. Back in the day playing the old NBA Live games my buddy and I used to play the series all the time. We had tournaments and all.

It seems like 2k blew the cover off with that first release on Dreamcast and EA never seemed to step up its gameplay. I'm a 2k fan right now; however, I hope EA wakes up and comes back strong to revive this series.

[Pared]

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Why is that a bad thing? If the game comes back to get an average ranking, isn't that good for competition? Why is it a fanboy if someone buys a good game. I could care less about the company; it's the product. If Live is the better bball game, that's the one I will buy. I guess you could say I am a good game fanboy.

IMO, an average rating at this point compared to the competition can't justify a purchase. I have a A++ caliber title, and a C- potential title.

He never wrote that it was bad... Supporting a mediocre title doesn't help either though, favre. We had this same discussion with MLB 2k... that game was total trash... yet you wanted to "support it." Why? It was trash! How is that going to spur the company to innovate and "earn" those sales?

Same thing here.

[Pared]

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I think this is a good move by EA. What in the world happened to the NBA live series. Back in the day playing the old NBA Live games my buddy and I used to play the series all the time. We had tournaments and all.

It seems like 2k blew the cover off with that first release on Dreamcast and EA never seemed to step up its gameplay. I'm a 2k fan right now; however, I hope EA wakes up and comes back strong to revive this series.

I'm witih you... Live used to be THE game... hell, there was even a period where 2k fell off with 2k4/2k5 and Live put out great title after great title (with slider adjustments). But ID was the king back then, IMO...

Ahh... the good old days... ID was to bball games what HH was to baseball...

[thmst30]

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IMO, an average rating at this point compared to the competition can't justify a purchase. I have a A++ caliber title, and a C- potential title.

He never wrote that it was bad... Supporting a mediocre title doesn't help either though, favre. We had this same discussion with MLB 2k... that game was total trash... yet you wanted to "support it." Why? It was trash! How is that going to spur the company to innovate and "earn" those sales?

Same thing here.

Stole the words out of my mouth. Thanks.

[Gary Armida]

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Nah, I think you guys are misunderstanding me on this. I'm saying that if the game is good, there is nothing wrong with buying it. If it's more of the same, then by all means I am with you.

Off topic--2K was a different story. I just got my shiny new 360 and really was hoping to make a game good, you know? That wore off quickly when I found myself popping in the show all of the time.

Back on--MVP is a classic example of people supporting a product that was building. The first edition was ok, yet showed alot of promise, the team gave us, the consumers, their vision. So, we put up with lack of fielding controls and other missing items that the other 2 games (2K--remember when it was good? and All-Star had). Year 2 of MVP was the Left handed hitter deal--we again supported an unfinished product b/c of promise. I don't know, just making conversation.

[thmst30]

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Nah, I think you guys are misunderstanding me on this. I'm saying that if the game is good, there is nothing wrong with buying it. If it's more of the same, then by all means I am with you.

Off topic--2K was a different story. I just got my shiny new 360 and really was hoping to make a game good, you know? That wore off quickly when I found myself popping in the show all of the time.

Back on--MVP is a classic example of people supporting a product that was building. The first edition was ok, yet showed alot of promise, the team gave us, the consumers, their vision. So, we put up with lack of fielding controls and other missing items that the other 2 games (2K--remember when it was good? and All-Star had). Year 2 of MVP was the Left handed hitter deal--we again supported an unfinished product b/c of promise. I don't know, just making conversation.

Of course theres nothing wrong with supporting a game if its good, no matter who makes it. I was just saying that in EA's case we can get this same game next year, and it would be bought by thousands. Now thats true for all the fanboys of 2K as well, but it seems to be more true with EA. Thats all I'm saying.

[Gary Armida]

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Of course theres nothing wrong with supporting a game if its good, no matter who makes it. I was just saying that in EA's case we can get this same game next year, and it would be bought by thousands. Now thats true for all the fanboys of 2K as well, but it seems to be more true with EA. Thats all I'm saying.

Fair enough.

[Blahzie]

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I know that people would love to think that all this is because they want the game to be good and so forth, and this may be partly true...

But has anyone considered that a PS3 port just isn't cost-effective for EA right now? With development costs for the PS3 being what they are and EA's resources spread pretty thin, wouldn't it just make sense to cancel your game with the lowest profit/cost ratio?

There will only be 500,000 PS3's worldwide shipped (and rumor has it there won't even be that many), Live will face major competition with 2K7, and I don't know how they project attach rates, but Live should have about, oh, say a 40% attach rate on PS3 (that's being really generous) due to a few different reasons; not just because Live wasn't a very good game.

[Seahawk76]

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There will only be 500,000 PS3's worldwide shipped (and rumor has it there won't even be that many), Live will face major competition with 2K7, and I don't know how they project attach rates, but Live should have about, oh, say a 40% attach rate on PS3 (that's being really generous) due to a few different reasons; not just because Live wasn't a very good game.

Those are good points. The PS3 shortages will be every bit as bad, or worse, as the shortages after the 360 launch. The average consumer - the ones who don't camp out on sidewalks, pay exorbitant prices on ebay, or pre-order six months in advance - won't be able to get their hands on one for months. When you combine that with stiff competition from a far superior game then EA may just have figured it wouldn't be cost effective to throw a lot of time and resources in getting the PS3 version out the door.

[Flightwhite24]

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Just my 2 cents, I really liked live for some reason, especially after PM's edits, the reality is this is just not a very good game. The controls lag really bad. Thought I would never say this, After hours of playing this game, us the consumer really got screwed over. Pound for Pound, 2K7 is a far superior game in the end. Scrapping this project for the PS3 probably was the best decision EA have done in a long time. What they wanted/tried to do I feel is great if they could have pulled it off, but they didn't.

Man I hope they get there act together. If any doubts about this game, try 2K7, Gears of War, Cod3 and see what games really should be for Next-Gen.
They are finished products, time and effort were put into those titles. After seeing what the 360 is capable of offering, I expect nothing less from this point on. I will never buy another EA product from this day forward without reading from other posters about the game. This is coming from an EA fanboy from the early 90's-present.

[motorcrossman1]

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Nah, EA Canada makes the EA Street Series. What defies imgination to me is the fact it took them year's to get the faces right in the NBA Live game, but they Faces looked a crap load better in the NBA Street Series(even those the graphics looked more cartoony).

It also baffles me why the production house for both the NBA and March Madness are in Canada. Seeing as the Canadien Audience for the NCAA Hoops is nohwere near what it is in the US, how could you hope to have a staff that would be that knowledgeable about the game.

Just my two cents.

Trey

Millsap from Louisaina Tech was the highest rated... but I know more people who brought that game then 2k6... I don't know anyone other then my friend who bought that game...

[Seahawk76]

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Apparently EA isn't going to release NHL 07 for the PS3 either, and that's a pretty decent hockey game - at least comparable to NHL 2K7. I think this is more a business decision than an acknowledgment that Live sucks. The PS3 launch is shaping up to be an even bigger mess than the 360 launch so the basketball and hockey seasons might be over by the time PS3s start hitting store shelves in any quantity or with any regularity. I'm guessing that EA just didn't think it would be cost effective to spend time or resources this year on the PS3 version and are focusing on next year's games.

[Bobolini]

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Apparently EA isn't going to release NHL 07 for the PS3 either, and that's a pretty decent hockey game - at least comparable to NHL 2K7. I think this is more a business decision than an acknowledgment that Live sucks. The PS3 launch is shaping up to be an even bigger mess than the 360 launch so the basketball and hockey seasons might be over by the time PS3s start hitting store shelves in any quantity or with any regularity. I'm guessing that EA just didn't think it would be cost effective to spend time or resources this year on the PS3 version and are focusing on next year's games.

My Nephew is telling me that they are some complaints that the programming for PS3 games are proving to be a little more difficult than anticipated

[thmst30]

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My Nephew is telling me that they are some complaints that the programming for PS3 games are proving to be a little more difficult than anticipated

Thats funny seeing as 2K is releasing all their games with no complaints. EA just making more excuses.