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  • Flightwhite24
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jul 2005
    • 12095

    #181
    Re: DNA updates

    Originally posted by steve_fab
    Well now that it's been confirmed that DNA updates don't impact your season or franchise I definitely won't be buying this game. Good thing I checked the forum as I was just about to head out to the store.

    I agree with what a lot of folks here are saying - this much hyped feature is definitely useless to me if it only applies to exhibition or online game modes. It is probably the most advertised new feature this season but it impacts two modes that I will never play.

    As to how it could work in my dynasty? I don't think there is a way it could but it definitely could work in a season mode - allow me to explain.

    Let's say Chris Paul suddenly becomes the best three point shooter in the league. When the EA DNA update gets downloaded, Chris Paul's three point attribute adjusts to reflect what's going on in the league.

    Now sure, if I am in year 10 of my dynasty I could see how this might be weird since obviously I would expect CP's attributes to decline once he gets older. But EA could have implemented a SEASON mode where the user can opt to have DNA updates put into play.

    It doesn't necessarily have to include trades and injuries (although that would have been nice) but at the very least it would be cool if the player attributes change.

    I can definitely see the difficulties in doing this for a franchise mode, but in a season mode it could definitely work. Maybe even have it so that if the user choses to have DNA updates, then things like injuries, trades etc. are automatically disabled.

    I really hope that one of these sports companies decides to implement a TRUE living roster/DNA system for a season mode. Seeing a major star getting trading and then having your franchise or season be totally out of date really sucks! Or how about a hot rookie rated 78 suddenly turning into a beast? If you start a season/franchise you're kinda screwed since that player will have their original attributes.

    Here's hoping for next year!
    This is what I felt. If you read my concerns I stated I only play 1 full Season and not Dynasty. I'm not saying if Kobe blows out his knee in the 3rd game of the season then the 3rd game in human play the exact play has to be replicated as in real life and Kobe gets hurt. But the 4th game of your season he should not be available for that game and forever long he is out for his real life abcense. If someone is 10 games ahead of the real life schedule I thought it should take the last true life downloaded game and use that DNA. What is so hard about that? Going past the Season at hand then the DNA obviously takes it's own course because it is not possible after season 1. A lot of people thought this was the case. We are not nieve or stupid just because we did not understand what the feature really was meant to do, we just misunderstood it.

    This feature was not fully explained. IMO it was very misleading by EA. Never was it mentioned it was for Play now nor Exibition games only. It says MADE FRESH DAILY ALL SEASON LONG. It does not say made fresh all Dynasty long it says ALL SEASON LONG. It does not say Made fresh ALL PLAYNOW/EXIBITION Games. Can you see were someone can feel decieved? I just hate when some posters come on here and make it as if we are idiots/stupid because we interpreted a feature to play out a certain way. Peace!!!!
    Last edited by Flightwhite24; 10-10-2008, 04:53 PM.
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    • Millennium
      Franchise Streamer
      • Aug 2002
      • 9889

      #182
      Re: DNA updates

      DNA works as it should.

      If you are playing franchise, the DNA updates PER YOUR FRANCHISE. In your franchise, the CPU builds teams towards a certain goal. If real life DNA was installed into your franchise, it would undermine the CPU teams as well as yours.

      So, if you are building the Spurs into a running team, would you REALLY want real life DNA to continue to update to keep your players thinking they should be playing half court while you want them to run?
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      • Court_vision
        Banned
        • Oct 2002
        • 8290

        #183
        Re: DNA updates

        Originally posted by Millennium
        DNA works as it should.

        If you are playing franchise, the DNA updates PER YOUR FRANCHISE. In your franchise, the CPU builds teams towards a certain goal. If real life DNA was installed into your franchise, it would undermine the CPU teams as well as yours.

        So, if you are building the Spurs into a running team, would you REALLY want real life DNA to continue to update to keep your players thinking they should be playing half court while you want them to run?
        Exactly right. Well said.

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        • Alliball
          MVP
          • Aug 2004
          • 2368

          #184
          Re: DNA updates

          Originally posted by Millennium
          DNA works as it should.

          If you are playing franchise, the DNA updates PER YOUR FRANCHISE. In your franchise, the CPU builds teams towards a certain goal. If real life DNA was installed into your franchise, it would undermine the CPU teams as well as yours.

          So, if you are building the Spurs into a running team, would you REALLY want real life DNA to continue to update to keep your players thinking they should be playing half court while you want them to run?

          I'm sorry, but this makes far too much sense.

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          • Flightwhite24
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2005
            • 12095

            #185
            Re: DNA updates

            Originally posted by Millennium
            DNA works as it should.

            If you are playing franchise, the DNA updates PER YOUR FRANCHISE. In your franchise, the CPU builds teams towards a certain goal. If real life DNA was installed into your franchise, it would undermine the CPU teams as well as yours.

            So, if you are building the Spurs into a running team, would you REALLY want real life DNA to continue to update to keep your players thinking they should be playing half court while you want them to run?
            I don't think no one ever said DNA does not work, at least I didn't. When the Season starts we will all find out if it works in play now games anyway. Peace!!!
            The poster formerly know as "FLIGHTWHITE"

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            • EAreaper26
              Banned
              • Sep 2006
              • 303

              #186
              Re: DNA updates

              Originally posted by Millennium
              DNA works as it should.

              If you are playing franchise, the DNA updates PER YOUR FRANCHISE. In your franchise, the CPU builds teams towards a certain goal. If real life DNA was installed into your franchise, it would undermine the CPU teams as well as yours.

              So, if you are building the Spurs into a running team, would you REALLY want real life DNA to continue to update to keep your players thinking they should be playing half court while you want them to run?
              That's not the point. The point is that some people like the idea of replicating real life nba events in their franchise, and daily updated dna was supposed to help them do this. It may not be feasible for most dynasty gamers, but some do play this way. Why else would they wait for rosters and updated dna before they start their dynasty.

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              • Scottdau
                Banned
                • Feb 2003
                • 32580

                #187
                Re: DNA updates

                Originally posted by Millennium
                DNA works as it should.

                If you are playing franchise, the DNA updates PER YOUR FRANCHISE. In your franchise, the CPU builds teams towards a certain goal. If real life DNA was installed into your franchise, it would undermine the CPU teams as well as yours.

                So, if you are building the Spurs into a running team, would you REALLY want real life DNA to continue to update to keep your players thinking they should be playing half court while you want them to run?
                But mom! I agree, it would be cool though to have the teams run like they do in real life. But it would be more trouble in the long run.

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                • Bumble14
                  Producer - EA Sports
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 808

                  #188
                  Re: DNA updates

                  Originally posted by Millennium
                  DNA works as it should.

                  If you are playing franchise, the DNA updates PER YOUR FRANCHISE. In your franchise, the CPU builds teams towards a certain goal. If real life DNA was installed into your franchise, it would undermine the CPU teams as well as yours.

                  So, if you are building the Spurs into a running team, would you REALLY want real life DNA to continue to update to keep your players thinking they should be playing half court while you want them to run?
                  Has this been confirmed by people who have played some franchise games though? So youa retelling me that if I run with the Spurs, I will start seeing TP's isolation or fast break DNA go up in my franchise?

                  I know there is the ability to edit a players franchise DNA within franchise mode, but haven't played enough of my practice chise to figure out if the the players within my franchises DNA adjust based on how they are playing within franchise.
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                  • Pared
                    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 39337

                    #189
                    Re: DNA updates

                    Originally posted by Millennium
                    DNA works as it should.

                    If you are playing franchise, the DNA updates PER YOUR FRANCHISE. In your franchise, the CPU builds teams towards a certain goal. If real life DNA was installed into your franchise, it would undermine the CPU teams as well as yours.

                    So, if you are building the Spurs into a running team, would you REALLY want real life DNA to continue to update to keep your players thinking they should be playing half court while you want them to run?
                    According to what we were told by the developers is that IN YOUR FRANCHISE the player DNA, meaning tendencies, do not develop over the course of your franchise.

                    Have you verified this or are you possibly confusing the CPU developing their team to specific goals with player DNA?

                    Because if a player's tendencies change over time, according to their playstyles IN YOUR DYNASTY, this is great news.

                    I took the developer's comments as face value that they do not change but they might have had the chance to implement it.
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                    • EAreaper26
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 303

                      #190
                      Re: DNA updates

                      Originally posted by Pared
                      According to what we were told by the developers is that IN YOUR FRANCHISE the player DNA, meaning tendencies, do not develop over the course of your franchise.

                      Have you verified this or are you possibly confusing the CPU developing their team to specific goals with player DNA?

                      Because if a player's tendencies change over time, according to their playstyles IN YOUR DYNASTY, this is great news.

                      I took the developer's comments as face value that they do not change but they might have had the chance to implement it.
                      yeah it develops to how YOU play, but is not affected by real life.

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                      • Pared
                        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 39337

                        #191
                        Re: DNA updates

                        Originally posted by EAreaper26
                        yeah it develops to how YOU play, but is not affected by real life.
                        Other teams.

                        I could not care less if the game tracks what I do.
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                        • EAreaper26
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 303

                          #192
                          Re: DNA updates

                          Originally posted by Pared
                          Other teams.

                          I could not care less if the game tracks what I do.
                          The entire dynasty has it's own dna, every team.
                          Last edited by EAreaper26; 10-11-2008, 08:57 PM.

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                          • Millennium
                            Franchise Streamer
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 9889

                            #193
                            Re: DNA updates

                            Originally posted by Pared
                            According to what we were told by the developers is that IN YOUR FRANCHISE the player DNA, meaning tendencies, do not develop over the course of your franchise.

                            Have you verified this or are you possibly confusing the CPU developing their team to specific goals with player DNA?

                            Because if a player's tendencies change over time, according to their playstyles IN YOUR DYNASTY, this is great news.

                            I took the developer's comments as face value that they do not change but they might have had the chance to implement it.

                            My understanding is that the teams tendencies will update to what the CPU teams are working towards, as well as the individual players.
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