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  • stephensonmc
    WW*/*FC C*mm*n*ty Mgr.
    • Mar 2003
    • 2105

    #166
    Re: DNA updates

    Originally posted by neuroticomic
    lol
    ye what the USER is doing.
    but what about the opponents players. they won't change.
    like i said earlier, nate robinson never changed last year in 5 dynasty seasons.

    i didnt like all that.
    "YOU" = your entire dynasty.
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    • EAreaper26
      Banned
      • Sep 2006
      • 303

      #167
      Re: DNA updates

      Originally posted by RubenDouglas
      unless there was a realtime dynasty mode feature, i dont see how that would be possible. it really defyes common sense imo.. imagine hearing that Randolph gets injured in real life. youre the knicks playing, they will have to either replicate the injury happening or say he was injured after you play... what about tendencies and ratings.. imagine youre chris paul and you CONTINUE to drive during the entire franchise mode, but in real life, he developes a three pt shot.. It just doesnt make sense what they apparently were offering to us
      No. If tendencies or "DNA" were updated daily for franchises, then most likely you wouldn't drive during the entire franchise. Chris Paul would develop as he would in real life. So it would make sense. Or, you could simply play how you want; but your opponents that you face would have similar tendencies to those in real life. Who wouldn't want this? If somebody off the Bulls bench becomes a star, I want to see this when I play the Bulls in my dynasty.

      I would also pay $19.99 a year to renew this service as opposed to buying a new NBA Live every year for $59.99.

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      • EAreaper26
        Banned
        • Sep 2006
        • 303

        #168
        Re: DNA updates

        Originally posted by stephensonmc
        "YOU" = your entire dynasty.

        Come on, sure I can have total control over the fate of my team in dynasty mode; but what about the other NBA teams? Can't their DNA be updated to reflect what's going on in real life? Not rosters, just tendencies.

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        • marc68
          Rookie
          • Jul 2003
          • 494

          #169
          Re: DNA updates

          Originally posted by stephensonmc
          YES!

          With what YOU'RE doing in that mode. Seperate from what's happening in the NBA. You guys are even confusing me !
          Thats good to hear. For a second I was thinking that "your" franchise players didn't change at all.

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          • jewelz1132
            MVP
            • Jun 2003
            • 1353

            #170
            Re: DNA updates

            Originally posted by EAreaper26
            Come on, sure I can have total control over the fate of my team in dynasty mode; but what about the other NBA teams? Can't their DNA be updated to reflect what's going on in real life? Not rosters, just tendencies.
            that would be kinda difficult because, wouldnt you have to play one game a day? lol

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            • RubenDouglas
              Hall Of Fame
              • May 2003
              • 11202

              #171
              Re: DNA updates

              Originally posted by EAreaper26
              No. If tendencies or "DNA" were updated daily for franchises, then most likely you wouldn't drive during the entire franchise. Chris Paul would develop as he would in real life. So it would make sense. Or, you could simply play how you want; but your opponents that you face would have similar tendencies to those in real life. Who wouldn't want this? If somebody off the Bulls bench becomes a star, I want to see this when I play the Bulls in my dynasty.

              I would also pay $19.99 a year to renew this service as opposed to buying a new NBA Live every year for $59.99.


              but im controlling chris paul and his fate. how can his tendencies CHANGE to being three point driven, like in a real life case, when I ahvent developed that in my game.. that defyes logic. why even play games if its gonna be exactly like real life
              Last edited by RubenDouglas; 10-09-2008, 10:18 PM.

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              • jewelz1132
                MVP
                • Jun 2003
                • 1353

                #172
                Re: DNA updates

                yeah thats going too far lol

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                • Chairman7w
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 1490

                  #173
                  Re: DNA updates

                  My head hurts.

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                  • EAreaper26
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 303

                    #174
                    Re: DNA updates

                    Originally posted by RubenDouglas
                    but im controlling chris paul and his fate. how can his tendencies CHANGE to being three point driven, like in a real life case, when I ahvent developed that in my game.. that defyes logic. why even play games if its gonna be exactly like real life
                    you could play how you want with your team; the other teams would be affected.

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                    • 23
                      yellow
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 66469

                      #175
                      Re: DNA updates

                      Honestly, i understand the disappointment, but the logic in it tearing your franchise into shreads doesn't really make sense.


                      Im sure they'll try to find a happy medium, say you sink or swim, choose updates that randomly happens to you as they do in the NBA and you have no control over what you should be able to control, or decide to turn that off and just play as we've been doing.

                      The more I think about it, that might seem to be the only way to make any sense and even then its a mess because as mentioned above, are you going to play a game a day or sim several games each day? Really?

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                      • Court_vision
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 8290

                        #176
                        Re: DNA updates

                        I can't believe people are complaining that the DNA updates can't be implemented into your franchise...

                        It's impossible to do folks.

                        Why? Because every. single. one. of your franchises are different.

                        Think about it...if in your franchise you have traded Yao Ming to the Knicks, how could they possibly implement a run and gun game for them? In your franchise the Knicks should now be a half court team built around Yao.

                        Everyone's franchise is different. Real world DNA and rosters can't exist as you'll all make different trades for your own teams.

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                        • slvicick
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 299

                          #177
                          Re: DNA updates

                          Originally posted by Pared
                          ONE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OTHER.

                          There are about 20 posts discussing that right before yours.
                          I know it doesn't this year. He dude said that they wanted to implement it, but didn't have time, so I was asking how they wanted to implement it.
                          Originally posted by aholbert32
                          Welcome to OS. The place where people complain about elbows.

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                          • Bumble14
                            Producer - EA Sports
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 808

                            #178
                            Re: DNA updates

                            Originally posted by Bumble14
                            I hate to keep this going guys, but I am still confused about one aspect.

                            I UNDERSTAND that the game does not update during franchise in accordence to what is happening in real life.

                            What I want to know is once I start my dynasty, can I (by the way I play the game) influence a players progression or "DNA" in FRANCHISE ONLY????
                            If I make Rasheed Wallace more of a downlow player, will the FRANCHISE make Sheeds tendencies (in FRANCHISE ONLY) to be more of a low post player?

                            Again, I understand how DNA works, I just want to know if the game will adapt in franchise/player progression to your personal tendencies with certain players.
                            So has the balove been confirmed by Stephen? I believe he confirmed it but saw no direct reply to my question.

                            More so than thte game tracking user tendencies as stated above, I was wondering if during franchise cpu players will develop new tendencies. Example, Oden has a great game against me and develops a nice mid range shot- will his mid range ratings/tendencies go up in franchise mode?


                            Thanks.
                            Christian McLeod--EA Sports NBA Live/Madden NFL Producer

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                            • darrenp1518
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 454

                              #179
                              Re: DNA updates

                              can someone please tell me what sink or swim effectiveness means i've posted it many places and have had absolutely no response??? someone just please help me with this

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                              • steve_fab
                                Rookie
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 18

                                #180
                                Re: DNA updates

                                Well now that it's been confirmed that DNA updates don't impact your season or franchise I definitely won't be buying this game. Good thing I checked the forum as I was just about to head out to the store.

                                I agree with what a lot of folks here are saying - this much hyped feature is definitely useless to me if it only applies to exhibition or online game modes. It is probably the most advertised new feature this season but it impacts two modes that I will never play.

                                As to how it could work in my dynasty? I don't think there is a way it could but it definitely could work in a season mode - allow me to explain.

                                Let's say Chris Paul suddenly becomes the best three point shooter in the league. When the EA DNA update gets downloaded, Chris Paul's three point attribute adjusts to reflect what's going on in the league.

                                Now sure, if I am in year 10 of my dynasty I could see how this might be weird since obviously I would expect CP's attributes to decline once he gets older. But EA could have implemented a SEASON mode where the user can opt to have DNA updates put into play.

                                It doesn't necessarily have to include trades and injuries (although that would have been nice) but at the very least it would be cool if the player attributes change.

                                I can definitely see the difficulties in doing this for a franchise mode, but in a season mode it could definitely work. Maybe even have it so that if the user choses to have DNA updates, then things like injuries, trades etc. are automatically disabled.

                                I really hope that one of these sports companies decides to implement a TRUE living roster/DNA system for a season mode. Seeing a major star getting trading and then having your franchise or season be totally out of date really sucks! Or how about a hot rookie rated 78 suddenly turning into a beast? If you start a season/franchise you're kinda screwed since that player will have their original attributes.

                                Here's hoping for next year!

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