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  • Bumble14
    Producer - EA Sports
    • Dec 2004
    • 808

    #91
    Re: DNA updates

    Originally posted by stephensonmc
    Sorry man, but we've always said that LIVE 365 starts when the season does.

    Roster updates will happen daily once the season starts my friend.

    It's pretty useless right now at this point anyway because teams don't have their roster set yet.
    Stephen-

    Can you clarify what if any effect DNA has on franchise mode?

    Thanks.
    Christian McLeod--EA Sports NBA Live/Madden NFL Producer

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    • stephensonmc
      WW*/*FC C*mm*n*ty Mgr.
      • Mar 2003
      • 2105

      #92
      Re: DNA updates

      Originally posted by Bumble14
      Stephen-

      Can you clarify what if any effect DNA has on franchise mode?

      Thanks.
      LIVE 365 has no effect on franchise mode.

      you can choose to start your franchise at any point in time and even with the current DNA update, but once you start, it's your franchise and not based off of the real NBA season.
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      • Flightwhite24
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2005
        • 12095

        #93
        Re: DNA updates

        Originally posted by stephensonmc
        As I mentioned in the roster thread, we had one update on day one and I think when compared to other games, you'll find some hidden gems like Goran Dragic, Rudy Fernandez, Sun Yue and Hamed Haddadi that you may not find in the other games.

        Is it perfect? No, but in the thread in the NBA LIVE roster forum, we're discussing accessory changes.
        Got it. Just don't mess with my soon to be crowned WORLD CHAMPION LOS ANGELES LAKERS.
        The poster formerly know as "FLIGHTWHITE"

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        • stephensonmc
          WW*/*FC C*mm*n*ty Mgr.
          • Mar 2003
          • 2105

          #94
          Re: DNA updates

          Originally posted by JSKYWALKER1
          Got it. Just don't mess with my soon to be crowned WORLD CHAMPION LOS ANGELES LAKERS.
          We did. Check out Sun YUE!!!!
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          • neuroticomic
            Rookie
            • Mar 2007
            • 164

            #95
            Re: DNA updates

            Originally posted by Glenn33
            What sports game has roster updates that applies to Dynasty mode? Why is this a surprise to most?

            glenn, i am not talking about roster updates. I mean player and team dna/tendencies.

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            • Flightwhite24
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2005
              • 12095

              #96
              Re: DNA updates

              Originally posted by stephensonmc
              We did. Check out Sun YUE!!!!
              What????? Firing it up right now. Thanks Steph. To much typing to spell your name out in full. Hope you are not offended. Peace and thanks for the feedback.
              The poster formerly know as "FLIGHTWHITE"

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              • neuroticomic
                Rookie
                • Mar 2007
                • 164

                #97
                Re: DNA updates

                Originally posted by TheTruth
                Nuero....just wait to start your chise until a few weeks into the real nba season and you will then use the knicks updated dna.

                the truth speaketh the....
                thanks man



                so the dynamic dna feature is really only for exhibition games?

                sucks.

                the main trigger point for me deciding on a game was the dna feature.
                but if its COMPLETELY non existent in franchise, no go for me.

                not sure why it can't update teams tendencies during a franny. I mean, if all of a sudden gallinari for the knicks becomes a ROY candidate after two months and is lighting it up as the three point maven, he will still be stuck at his same dna all throughout my season?
                ugh
                Last edited by neuroticomic; 10-09-2008, 11:57 AM.

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                • Bumble14
                  Producer - EA Sports
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 808

                  #98
                  Re: DNA updates

                  Originally posted by stephensonmc
                  LIVE 365 has no effect on franchise mode.

                  you can choose to start your franchise at any point in time and even with the current DNA update, but once you start, it's your franchise and not based off of the real NBA season.
                  Does a players DNA adjust in the franchise though based on how they are playing in the franchise?

                  For example, I am the Lakers and am playing the Cavs. LeBron goes off on me and is able to drain 7 threes in the game- will LeBron become a better 3 point shooter within the dynasty. If Kobe suddenly becomes a great pick and roll player because I use it a lot will this update in dynasty.Will in dynasty season DNA be a factor, or is there no progression at all DNA wise in dynasty?

                  Thanks.
                  Christian McLeod--EA Sports NBA Live/Madden NFL Producer

                  Follow me on Twitter: CMcLeod_EA https://twitter.com/CMcLeod_EA

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                  • mgoblue
                    Go Wings!
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 25477

                    #99
                    Re: DNA updates

                    Originally posted by neuroticomic
                    the truth speaketh the....
                    thanks man



                    so the dynamic dna feature is really only for exhibition games?

                    sucks.

                    the main trigger point for me deciding on a game was the dna feature.
                    but if its COMPLETELY non existent in franchise, no go for me.

                    not sure why it can't update teams tendencies during a franny. I mean, if all of a sudden gallinari for the knicks becomes a ROY candidate after two months and is lighting it up as the three point maven, he will still be stuck at his same dna all throughout my season?
                    ugh
                    I kinda understand but if you do it your way then franchise guys get pissed. A franchise to the core is taking the NBA at one time period and creating an "alternate world"...Your Knicks in Franchise mode could have different players than the real life Knicks...How do they really integrate something based on the real NBA with something that has its own trades, injuries, etc? By year 2 there's no way to integrate at all. I can't really hate on them here because I'm not sure what we want makes sense.
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                    • neuroticomic
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 164

                      #100
                      Re: DNA updates

                      Originally posted by mgoblue
                      I kinda understand but if you do it your way then franchise guys get pissed. A franchise to the core is taking the NBA at one time period and creating an "alternate world"...Your Knicks in Franchise mode could have different players than the real life Knicks...How do they really integrate something based on the real NBA with something that has its own trades, injuries, etc? By year 2 there's no way to integrate at all. I can't really hate on them here because I'm not sure what we want makes sense.
                      i am not concerned with trades, injuries. that i understand would screw things up. i am just concerned with the tendencies and team type play.


                      on a side note, this is from an interview with an EA Live producer....


                      "Can a roster move affect a player’s DNA composition?

                      Matt Lafreniere: Yes. It really depends on the actual player and how he’s doing in particular aspects of his game, as well as his gel with the team and its philosophy. If you take a player like Kobe Bryant– he is going to perform in a way similar to how he does now with the Lakers. But if he all of a sudden gets traded to the Knicks, his game is going to change because his role is going to change. A real-world example of this is when the Suns got Shaq. Initially, the move wasn’t really working as-planned, so the team had to resort to a new style of play. The same can happen in NBA LIVE 09, where a player’s individual DNA changes in respect to the team he is playing with.


                      Is there one aspect or area of NBA LIVE 09 that really plays differently due to the DNA system working in the background?

                      Matt Lafreniere: We notice the biggest differences in the shot taking and play calling. If you take a team like the Celtics, the system ensures that Garnett is going to get an appropriate amount of shots, Ray Allen is going to get his shots and Paul Pierce will get his shots too. But let’s say that Paul Pierce goes out of the lineup; that shot distribution dynamic is going to change things quite a bit with player and team DNA in place. KG will now get more shots, so shot distribution will obviously be affected, but the play calling will also change in order to fill the gap."


                      so, this works where? only in exhibition games?
                      Last edited by neuroticomic; 10-09-2008, 12:06 PM.

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                      • mgoblue
                        Go Wings!
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 25477

                        #101
                        Re: DNA updates

                        In exhibition games and if you start a new franchise with the new DNA. I still don't understand why you'd want Kobe to change because in your Franchise he's still with the Lakers, not the Knicks, so it just doesn't make logical sense. Same with team tendencies. You could trade Kobe for Kwame Brown in your franchise, so the Lakers tendencies would be drastically different in your franchise vs. real life. There's no correlation.

                        I agree in theory and it'd be fun to have some sort of season mode that would update with DNA too, but that will have to be separate from franchise because franchise has player progression, trades, etc that pull it away from real life DNA.
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                        • neuroticomic
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 164

                          #102
                          Re: DNA updates

                          Originally posted by mgoblue
                          In exhibition games and if you start a new franchise with the new DNA. I still don't understand why you'd want Kobe to change because in your Franchise he's still with the Lakers, not the Knicks, so it just doesn't make logical sense. Same with team tendencies. You could trade Kobe for Kwame Brown in your franchise, so the Lakers tendencies would be drastically different in your franchise vs. real life. There's no correlation.

                          I agree in theory and it'd be fun to have some sort of season mode that would update with DNA too, but that will have to be separate from franchise because franchise has player progression, trades, etc that pull it away from real life DNA.

                          understood.

                          but, can't single player and team style dna change in a franchise?

                          like if kobe got hurt in my franchise, when i play against the lakers, shouldnt they play differently? Will they, without a dna change or will the shooting guard replacement get the shots?

                          also, what i in live 09 mike d gets fired, do the knicks keep his style with a generic coach?


                          i am just worried that sya for example paul pierce gets hurt and his back up is a scrub and HE gets all the same shots paul did, instead of Garnett, like it should be.

                          just looking for some back and forth discussion.
                          i am not arguing.

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                          • mgoblue
                            Go Wings!
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 25477

                            #103
                            Re: DNA updates

                            Originally posted by neuroticomic
                            understood.

                            but, can't single player and team style dna change in a franchise?

                            like if kobe got hurt in my franchise, when i play against the lakers, shouldnt they play differently? Will they, without a dna change or will the shooting guard replacement get the shots?

                            also, what i in live 09 mike d gets fired, do the knicks keep his style with a generic coach?


                            i am just worried that sya for example paul pierce gets hurt and his back up is a scrub and HE gets all the same shots paul did, instead of Garnett, like it should be.

                            just looking for some back and forth discussion.
                            i am not arguing.
                            Nah, it's all good...I want kinda what you want, but it's all confusing with real life, franchise, etc

                            You make a great point and I hope (not sure) that your franchise DNA evolves on its own based on the games you play. I'd want the Lakers to change too if Kobe broke his leg.
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                            • 23
                              yellow
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 66469

                              #104
                              Re: DNA updates

                              If you want updated DNA in franchise you'll have to start a new one. This is the first year and neither game has implemented changing people's franchises on them with what has been implemented.

                              I can understand how this is something neither company wanted to mess with, again its the very first year its implemented.

                              I understand what youre saying but its not feasible for the masses to do what you're saying right now.

                              If a player got injured in franchise, im sure the CPU would continue to run plays through the players that most fits that scheme. If Kobe hurt his ankle again, Pau is still there, Bynum is still there, and Lamar is still there.. they'd definitely get more touches in their spots of course.

                              I don't think this computer logic is dumb enough to start giving sasha all of Kobe's shots when it was never encoded to do that.

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                              • dave374
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 1928

                                #105
                                Re: DNA updates

                                I'd love to see a DNA-based season mode.
                                You take a team and can't do any player movement.
                                Everything is based on DNA and current rosters.
                                That would be cool.

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