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  • Benicio10
    Pro
    • Jun 2007
    • 670

    #16
    Re: Live's player models are the worst in sports gaming - please rework them soon

    Originally posted by TJdaSportsGuy
    LOL, dude, things can always be better. The old iPod's were fine but Apple decided to make progress by creating the iPod Touch. Doesn't mean the old iPod was the "worst MP3 player on the market". It's called progress, brother.

    BTW, rehaul isn't a word. I believe the word you were looking for was overhauling.
    Thanks TJdaLinguistGuy!

    NBA Live's player models have not made significant progress for years, though. The models and poor animations are one of the biggest reasons for NBA 2K's dominance in basketball games in this current gen.

    They don't need tweaking. They need an "overhaul". The first iPod was cutting edge but Apple needed the iPod Touch to remain cutting edge.

    There is nothing cutting edge about NBA Live except for the DNA aspect and the AI halfcourt defense.

    In terms of player models, likenesses to the pros, animations, signature styles, and overall locomotions and controls, NBA Live is one of the worst major sports games in the industry in this respect. That is why Mike Wang is here. To "overhaul" the game.
    Last edited by Benicio10; 05-08-2009, 01:50 PM.

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    • KG
      Welcome Back
      • Sep 2005
      • 17583

      #17
      Re: Live's player models are the worst in sports gaming - please rework them soon

      The quality of the pic is nice but that Rip's body proportions are waaay off.

      1. Rip's legs are not that big. His legs are very skinny.
      2. It looks like he has 2 elbows. The 1st one being nose-leve and the 2nd one slightly above the headband.
      3. Look at Mo William's calves. They are wider than his knees.

      The other screenshot Shadows has in his arena of Rip looks much better for some reason.
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      • Behindshadows
        CEO - BSG Network
        • Nov 2004
        • 8055

        #18
        Re: Live's player models are the worst in sports gaming - please rework them soon

        Originally posted by kgx2thez
        The quality of the pic is nice but that Rip's body proportions are waaay off.

        1. Rip's legs are not that big. His legs are very skinny.
        2. It looks like he has 2 elbows. The 1st one being nose-leve and the 2nd one slightly above the headband.
        3. Look at Mo William's calves. They are wider than his knees.

        The other screenshot Shadows has in his arena of Rip looks much better for some reason.
        This one?

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        • KG
          Welcome Back
          • Sep 2005
          • 17583

          #19
          Re: Live's player models are the worst in sports gaming - please rework them soon

          Originally posted by Behindshadows
          This one?

          Yeah, that pic looks good and accurately captures Rips frame. I know the pics are at 2 different angles but this pic looks like a guy who is 190ish at 6'7.
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          • Glenn33
            MVP
            • Jul 2002
            • 2455

            #20
            Re: Live's player models are the worst in sports gaming - please rework them soon

            Originally posted by Benicio10
            Thanks TJdaLinguistGuy!

            In terms of player models, likenesses to the pros, animations, signature styles, and overall locomotions and controls, NBA Live is one of the worst major sports games in the industry in this respect. That is why Mike Wang is here. To "overhaul" the game.

            NBA Live 07 & 08 needed an "overhaul". NBA Live 09 was just that. NBA LIve 09 doesn't need an overhaul - just improvements.[which they are doing]

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            • RayAP19
              Banned
              • Oct 2006
              • 2668

              #21
              Re: Live's player models are the worst in sports gaming - please rework them soon

              Originally posted by Behindshadows
              This one?

              That has to be doctored in some way, 09's player models are not that good.

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              • Behindshadows
                CEO - BSG Network
                • Nov 2004
                • 8055

                #22
                Re: Live's player models are the worst in sports gaming - please rework them soon

                Originally posted by RayAP19
                That has to be doctored in some way, 09's player models are not that good.
                Are you freak'n serious! That's my screenshot I uploaded. All the screenshots in my gallery are from my own 360. That isn't doctored!

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                • pbz06
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 1504

                  #23
                  Re: Live's player models are the worst in sports gaming - please rework them soon

                  I think they look good overall. My biggest complaint about them are how every player moves the exact same way, and they all have this sort of hunched over look to them. And I hate that one triple threat pose animation they all do.

                  When you watch a game in real life, you can tell who a certain player is by watching them. Like a Stephen Jackson kind of moves a little stiffer in the upper back, while a Billups gets low to the ground. Know what I mean? In NBA Live, there's no real distinguishment (is that a word? lol) between the various players. Shaq has the same animations as a Chris Mihm or a Steve Nash.

                  Obviously, getting realistic motion cap for every player is a lot to ask for, but I think if they focus on the 5 best players from each team then it would give a nice realistic look to it

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                  • South318
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 149

                    #24
                    Re: Live's player models are the worst in sports gaming - please rework them soon

                    Compare to it's competition (NBA 2k9 and NBA 09), Live player models are not that great. All the players are skinny, the only thing that's different is the height. And those **** legs have annoyed me since I moved to the next gen systems. All the ball, net, rim physics also needs work. NCAA 09 was more fluid.
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                    • pbz06
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 1504

                      #25
                      Re: Live's player models are the worst in sports gaming - please rework them soon

                      Originally posted by South318
                      Compare to it's competition (NBA 2k9 and NBA 09), Live player models are not that great. All the players are skinny, the only thing that's different is the height. And those **** legs have annoyed me since I moved to the next gen systems. All the ball, net, rim physics also needs work. NCAA 09 was more fluid.
                      But 2k9 has been using the old last gen engine so they've had more time to make tweaks and improve animations and stuff. But up close, they're pretty horrid.

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                      • rckabillyRaider
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 4382

                        #26
                        Re: Live's player models are the worst in sports gaming - please rework them soon

                        Nba 09 player models are s**t! Live and 2k are WAY better.

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                        • Prayexupegape
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                          • Oct 2009
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                          #27
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                          • LAKE4742
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 1325

                            #28
                            Re: Live's player models are the worst in sports gaming - please rework them soon

                            I think they look a tad too beefy. But, only need a very small overall percentage reduction. Maybe like 2%-3% or something. Do that, and your gold, Jerry, gold!!!

                            And I will...

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                            • LAKE4742
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 1325

                              #29
                              Re: Live's player models are the worst in sports gaming - please rework them soon

                              Well, actually, after looking at some of the rooks, Thabeet, and Curry, they look very good, and not beefy at all. So, I dunno. I think the models are overall really good.

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                              • The 24th Letter
                                ERA
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 39373

                                #30
                                Re: Live's player models are the worst in sports gaming - please rework them soon

                                Im not a fan of the player models myself...its hard to tell who is who on the fly for me sometimes...that, and the greasy look..

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