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  • Beluba
    Gameplay Director, NBA2k
    • Jul 2002
    • 1389

    #16
    Re: Fix the defense

    Originally posted by Jamin23
    When are we going to get a blog on defense?
    I just posted it.

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    • Beluba
      Gameplay Director, NBA2k
      • Jul 2002
      • 1389

      #17
      Re: Fix the defense

      Originally posted by Behindshadows
      So no more zapping into players, and bumping them back behind the half court line?
      That's just tenacious D, BS... completely legit. lol

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      • michaeljordanjr
        Banned
        • Jun 2009
        • 972

        #18
        Re: Fix the defense

        You need a button for defensive stance movement but not an aut pilot. But defense does not exist in NBA games.

        Playing online with 2k I'll use autopilot L2 and there's always a cheese move to get passed you no matter what. And you get dunked on until you quit no matter if there's 1 or 5 guys in the way.

        Fight night round 4 is amazing as defensive gameplay in sports. Because your timing and reaction win you matches. In live or 2k it gets you no where because the games were made for offensive cheesing.

        I'm buying the game that has the best defense this year.

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        • KChow21
          Rookie
          • Apr 2009
          • 251

          #19
          Re: Fix the defense

          Originally posted by Beluba
          I just posted it.
          Where? and how will that find your check work?? better be bug-free as in what if you do it and you get your SF matched up with the C from the other team
          Last edited by KChow21; 06-28-2009, 04:07 AM.
          It's a failure on 3 levels: programming/QA/Production. That's all I can say.-iminurbase

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          • DaWolf
            Old school
            • Feb 2007
            • 628

            #20
            Re: Fix the defense

            It would be great if you could deactivate all defense automatics like lock on in the options for someone who wants to play all for himself. I dont like any help by the CPU at all. But great to hear that the lock on system is gone.

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            • thesniper321
              Rookie
              • Sep 2008
              • 274

              #21
              Re: Fix the defense

              Sorry to ask again but where is theblog about the Defense?

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              • FlyRice
                Lillard Time
                • Nov 2008
                • 1280

                #22
                Re: Fix the defense

                Originally posted by Beluba
                I had Lock-on D killed off very early in the 10 cycle. It made the game too stagnant and didn't require any skill to use.

                Defensive Assist will still be in the game, but it's main function now is simply a "find your check" button when you get lost on defense. I find it still has some value in OTP where things can get a little hectic from time to time. On the higher skill levels though, relying on Def. Assist will get you burned if you mindlessly try to cruise control. We really want to encourage the user to take an active role in playing defense this year as we've spent a lot of time shoring up the weapons on the defensive end of the floor.

                Personally, I find it just as enjoyable playing defense in Live 10 as playing offense, which is something I've never been able to say about any other hoops sim before. Sadly.
                YES! I love playing defense and it has been crap the last few years in videogames. Good to know lock-on D is finally dead. Can't wait to hear more about the defensive mechanics.

                I hope we are able to make some monster blocks if the timing is right. Pinning to the backboard would be nice too.

                BTW guys, Beluba's post is the 'blog' he's talking about. :wink:
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                • Teebone21
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 757

                  #23
                  Re: Fix the defense

                  Originally posted by Beluba
                  I had Lock-on D killed off very early in the 10 cycle. It made the game too stagnant and didn't require any skill to use.

                  Defensive Assist will still be in the game, but it's main function now is simply a "find your check" button when you get lost on defense. I find it still has some value in OTP where things can get a little hectic from time to time. On the higher skill levels though, relying on Def. Assist will get you burned if you mindlessly try to cruise control. We really want to encourage the user to take an active role in playing defense this year as we've spent a lot of time shoring up the weapons on the defensive end of the floor.

                  Personally, I find it just as enjoyable playing defense in Live 10 as playing offense, which is something I've never been able to say about any other hoops sim before. Sadly.

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                  • RayAP19
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 2668

                    #24
                    Re: Fix the defense

                    Originally posted by Beluba
                    I had Lock-on D killed off very early in the 10 cycle. It made the game too stagnant and didn't require any skill to use.
                    I've been sayin this FOREVER, but people acted ike I was crazy. But now that Beluba's said it, I suppose everyone's gonna jump on the "Lock On D sucks" bandwagon

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                    • pbz06
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 1504

                      #25
                      Re: Fix the defense

                      Speaking of D, is there going to be a different feel from team to team (defensively speaking)?

                      Will it be harder to score against a Cleveland and Boston, as opposed a Golden State or NY team? Will there be different feels to the "pacing" of the games? For example, phoenix likes to shoot within the first 8 seconds of the shot clock, while San Antonio likes to run it through Duncan and slow it down.

                      In previous Lives, I always felt like I was just playing the CPU, and the team/opponent they were was just a "skin" template.

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                      • FlyRice
                        Lillard Time
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 1280

                        #26
                        Re: Fix the defense

                        Originally posted by RayAP19
                        I've been sayin this FOREVER, but people acted ike I was crazy. But now that Beluba's said it, I suppose everyone's gonna jump on the "Lock On D sucks" bandwagon
                        Nope, I thought it sucked ever since the first time I tried it in the 2k8 demo.
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                        • Beluba
                          Gameplay Director, NBA2k
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 1389

                          #27
                          Re: Fix the defense

                          Originally posted by pbz06
                          Speaking of D, is there going to be a different feel from team to team (defensively speaking)?

                          Will it be harder to score against a Cleveland and Boston, as opposed a Golden State or NY team? Will there be different feels to the "pacing" of the games? For example, phoenix likes to shoot within the first 8 seconds of the shot clock, while San Antonio likes to run it through Duncan and slow it down.

                          In previous Lives, I always felt like I was just playing the CPU, and the team/opponent they were was just a "skin" template.
                          Player and team differentiation was a major focus for us in building all of our gameplay features this year. We'll talk about this stuff later on when we start blogging about gameplay. But yeah, it definitely feels different playing the different teams.

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                          • mikenoob
                            All Star
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 5545

                            #28
                            Re: Fix the defense

                            Originally posted by KChow21
                            Where? and how will that find your check work?? better be bug-free as in what if you do it and you get your SF matched up with the C from the other team
                            I think he was joking, he probably said he just posted it as in this:


                            I had Lock-on D killed off very early in the 10 cycle. It made the game too stagnant and didn't require any skill to use.

                            Defensive Assist will still be in the game, but it's main function now is simply a "find your check" button when you get lost on defense. I find it still has some value in OTP where things can get a little hectic from time to time. On the higher skill levels though, relying on Def. Assist will get you burned if you mindlessly try to cruise control. We really want to encourage the user to take an active role in playing defense this year as we've spent a lot of time shoring up the weapons on the defensive end of the floor.

                            Personally, I find it just as enjoyable playing defense in Live 10 as playing offense, which is something I've never been able to say about any other hoops sim before. Sadly.

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                            • WTF
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 20274

                              #29
                              Re: Fix the defense

                              Originally posted by Beluba
                              I just posted it.
                              Very nicely written B. One of the best blogs yet.
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                              • sportyguyfl31
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 4745

                                #30
                                Re: Fix the defense

                                Originally posted by Beluba
                                I had Lock-on D killed off very early in the 10 cycle. It made the game too stagnant and didn't require any skill to use.

                                Defensive Assist will still be in the game, but it's main function now is simply a "find your check" button when you get lost on defense. I find it still has some value in OTP where things can get a little hectic from time to time. On the higher skill levels though, relying on Def. Assist will get you burned if you mindlessly try to cruise control. We really want to encourage the user to take an active role in playing defense this year as we've spent a lot of time shoring up the weapons on the defensive end of the floor.

                                Personally, I find it just as enjoyable playing defense in Live 10 as playing offense, which is something I've never been able to say about any other hoops sim before. Sadly.
                                Sounds nice!

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