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  • crm968
    Rookie
    • Aug 2009
    • 203

    #1

    Why Our Games May Be Longer

    hey guys i have been keeping up with the Live news and i read many of the threads here. I want to say thanks to all the Live developers that have made this great effort to bring us the best possible game this year. Also, to all the Live fans that have stuck with the game for years and are excited for this one. Ok now that it's out of the way i want to get to my topic.

    I might not be the only one, but i always try to set a good quarter length that will give me realistic scores and stats at the end of the game. Now I'm starting to think that if the game is this competitive on All-star or Superstar then i might have to set it to 12 minute quarters to get real results. Do you guys think we will need to do this, or will it stay at the usual 5-8 minute quarters?

    Oh and this is not a complaint, i would love to switch it to 12 minute quarters and get real results, it makes it that much more real.

    Can any of the Devs let us know whether we can expect a reasonable final score if we run 12 minute quarters on all-star or superstar?
  • RayDog253
    Pro
    • Jul 2009
    • 984

    #2
    Re: Why Our Games May Be Longer

    I'm not sure, but I would get rather realistic scores on 10 min quarters for Live 09. I would run a lot of set plays and pick n rolls though. I'm all for having to play 12 min quarters, that way we get realistic minutes and stats. If it plays out like you think it will.
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    • brs2305
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      • Mar 2008
      • 241

      #3
      Re: Why Our Games May Be Longer

      I always try to play as close to the real world as possible. 12 minutes however usually gave me slightly too high scores. So 11 minutes has been the way to go. But anything below steals of the experience for me...
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      • crm968
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        • Aug 2009
        • 203

        #4
        Re: Why Our Games May Be Longer

        well to be honest i do think it will be that difficult. if it is as hard as they say it will be on superstar, then i'm down for 12 to get those stats. I mean low minutes can be good because it doesn't take so long, but i prefer the realistic quarters with the realistic time. I hope it is this difficult. I don't think i would be the only one excited about it.

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        • crm968
          Rookie
          • Aug 2009
          • 203

          #5
          Re: Why Our Games May Be Longer

          it also leaves a lot of time for those comebacks that makes the NBA so exciting. It would feel pretty rewarding to come back from 20 in the fourth on all-star or superstar. Although it's a long shot, it's exciting nonetheless.

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          • SpSoloSr
            Rookie
            • Oct 2006
            • 157

            #6
            Re: Why Our Games May Be Longer

            I'm might be in a minority with this, but I've played on 12 min quarters for as long as I can remember. I'm one of those people who really take my time with a possession and hate taking shots 10 secs in the shot clock, so I'm really excited with all the off ball movement and the new passing system.

            The games themselves tend to be pretty realistic. I think the highest I've gotten on 09 with 12 min quarters was up in the 120s and that's only cause I exploited mismatches with Kobe and Gasol. (Lakernation!)

            But, yea, I wouldn't worry. You just gotta kinda be more mindful of the style that you're playing. I'm sure if you're into run n gun then the game will be pretty long.

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            • Pared
              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
              • Feb 2003
              • 39337

              #7
              Re: Why Our Games May Be Longer

              I didn't have an issue with this last year so I doubt you'll have an issue this year.
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              • thesniper321
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                • Sep 2008
                • 274

                #8
                Re: Why Our Games May Be Longer

                Originally posted by crm968
                hey guys i have been keeping up with the Live news and i read many of the threads here. I want to say thanks to all the Live developers that have made this great effort to bring us the best possible game this year. Also, to all the Live fans that have stuck with the game for years and are excited for this one. Ok now that it's out of the way i want to get to my topic.

                I might not be the only one, but i always try to set a good quarter length that will give me realistic scores and stats at the end of the game. Now I'm starting to think that if the game is this competitive on All-star or Superstar then i might have to set it to 12 minute quarters to get real results. Do you guys think we will need to do this, or will it stay at the usual 5-8 minute quarters?

                Oh and this is not a complaint, i would love to switch it to 12 minute quarters and get real results, it makes it that much more real.

                Can any of the Devs let us know whether we can expect a reasonable final score if we run 12 minute quarters on all-star or superstar?
                I hope you wil have to run 12 min quarters to get realistic score that would be tight and GREAT, but lmaoo imagine in a 5 minutes quarters game kobe player of the game 12 points 2 assists and 3 rebounds then the annoucers says those are amazing numbers roflmaoooo

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                • crm968
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 203

                  #9
                  Re: Why Our Games May Be Longer

                  Originally posted by thesniper321
                  I hope you wil have to run 12 min quarters to get realistic score that would be tight and GREAT, but lmaoo imagine in a 5 minutes quarters game kobe player of the game 12 points 2 assists and 3 rebounds then the annoucers says those are amazing numbers roflmaoooo
                  that would definitely crack me up. Let's not play 5 minute quarters so we don't have to find out. But i'm like you SPsolo, i like to take my time with the possessions. I just can't wait to try out superstar, games are no fun when they aren't a challenge . And if i get my butt whooped by twenty then so be it. I hate it when i hear that people shut the game off or load it so they don't lose a game. That just takes the fun out of it. I always start a game on its hardest difficulty no matter what game, so there is no need to stop now.

                  Plus starting it off that way feels like normal because you don't really know what normal is until you try it. So Superstar it is!!

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                  • RayAllen20
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 1825

                    #10
                    Re: Why Our Games May Be Longer

                    Well this year teams shoot under 50% most games according to the defense blog. So scores will be low for 5-8 so you might atleast want to do the 9-12 range to make realistic scores and stats.
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                    • HOLLIDAY1183
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 459

                      #11
                      Re: Why Our Games May Be Longer

                      Yeah, me and my friends stay around 7,8 mins/qtr for most years, but would love it if I could play a league with 9-10 min qtrs, so we can get those momentum swings. I HATE playing with some of my friends who insist on playing 5 min qtrs. This basically ensures that whoever is leading by around 8 after the 3rd qtr will most likely win.
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                      • crm968
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                        • Aug 2009
                        • 203

                        #12
                        Re: Why Our Games May Be Longer

                        Originally posted by HOLLIDAY1183
                        Yeah, me and my friends stay around 7,8 mins/qtr for most years, but would love it if I could play a league with 9-10 min qtrs, so we can get those momentum swings. I HATE playing with some of my friends who insist on playing 5 min qtrs. This basically ensures that whoever is leading by around 8 after the 3rd qtr will most likely win.

                        yea that's exactly what pisses me off, you don't have enough time to make a comeback. better said, a realistic comeback. And with the atmosphere this year those momentum swings will be pretty cool in the playoffs. Man i can't wait to get my hands on this game.

                        The one thing i love about new outings is that playing a whole season may take a few weeks or months depending on how you play it. So there is a guarantee that you will see new things come playoff time, I'm sure we are all going to be anxious at that time. That's pretty damn exciting if you ask me.
                        Last edited by crm968; 08-22-2009, 11:45 PM.

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                        • HOLLIDAY1183
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 459

                          #13
                          Re: Why Our Games May Be Longer

                          Originally posted by crm968
                          better said, a realistic comeback. And with the atmosphere this year those momentum swings will be pretty cool in the playoffs. Man i can't wait to get my hands on this game.
                          Totally agree with the "realistic comeback" thing. Not meaning me hitting 6 threes in a row while my opponent misses layups, but the real comebacks you see in the L, like Lakers down 13 in the third-around the midway point Kobe hits a pullup 2 after being cold all game-force them into a few bad shots/turnovers here and there-having Kobe find Fish for the 3, slash thru for an And1, etc.... just chipping away at the lead. Having realistic stats for 10+ min qtrs would allow for that.

                          Also agree that with seasons taking longer, we'll be able to really get a feel for the subtle differences (ie holiday games, playoff/Finals atmosphere)
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                          • Beluba
                            Gameplay Director, NBA2k
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 1389

                            #14
                            Re: Why Our Games May Be Longer

                            Yeah, the only way to get picture perfect stats in Live 10 is to play 12 minute quarters. The great thing is that you don't have to create "house rules" and artificially handicap yourself or not capitalize on scoring opportunities to get the scores to come out right. You pretty much just play normally and the stats work themselves out. The pacing is beautiful in this year's game and, along with the offense vs. defense balance and midrange game, it's one of the things I'm most proud of this year.

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                            • pbz06
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 1504

                              #15
                              Re: Why Our Games May Be Longer

                              Originally posted by Beluba
                              Yeah, the only way to get picture perfect stats in Live 10 is to play 12 minute quarters. The great thing is that you don't have to create "house rules" and artificially handicap yourself or not capitalize on scoring opportunities to get the scores to come out right. You pretty much just play normally and the stats work themselves out. The pacing is beautiful in this year's game and, along with the offense vs. defense balance and midrange game, it's one of the things I'm most proud of this year.
                              That sounds like a dream come true

                              That's why I love the DNA synergy thing..

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