NBA Live 10 Patch Impressions (360, PS3)

[Court_vision]

Re: NBA Live 10 Patch Impressions (360 Patch Only, PS3 to Follow)

So a word of advice for any fellow "Superstar" difficulty users on the PS3 who may find the game frustrating. Take the step down to "All-Star". The CPU will play much more realistic, while still giving you a challenge, unlike the "All-Star" level prior to the release of the patch.

Honestly, I don't think I'll ever go back to the "Superstar" level, unless for whatever reason the things I was experiencing are corrected with the DNA updates. (I don't think they will be, but we can only wait and see)

Cliff notes:

- All-Star difficulty for most realistic basketball experience
- Superstar difficulty can make you feel hopeless at times (Can provide further explanation if need be)
- Patch does indeed largely improve Live 10
- Once the bugs get ironed out that came came along with the patch (No overtime, no points awarded when CPU goaltends user, CPU fouling when leading by 1 in the closing seconds, CPU dribbling out the ball in OT when losing, no points awarded/CPU inbound on partially blocked user dunk attempts the still end up going in), Live 10 is the best basketball game on the market, hands down.

Good to hear Guru...I'm on superstar, so I'll definitely drop down a level post patch also. Thanks

Re the "bugs being ironed out"...have we got any official confirmation of those things being addressed? I am just guessing, but they'd require another patch? I haven't seen any EA guys confirm another patch? I am pretty sure last season they released one patch and then "moved on to next year's game". Can a LIVE producer confirm you are going to patch all this stuff?

[sportyguyfl31]

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Good to hear Guru...I'm on superstar, so I'll definitely drop down a level post patch also. Thanks

Re the "bugs being ironed out"...have we got any official confirmation of those things being addressed? I am just guessing, but they'd require another patch? I haven't seen any EA guys confirm another patch? I am pretty sure last season they released one patch and then "moved on to next year's game". Can a LIVE producer confirm you are going to patch all this stuff?

I would imagine they'd have to..wouldnt they? I cant fathom them leavingthe stuff that the patch jacked up, in there.

This game is excellent inspite of those warts, so I do hope they take the time to do it.

[Super Glock]

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Good to hear Guru...I'm on superstar, so I'll definitely drop down a level post patch also. Thanks

Re the "bugs being ironed out"...have we got any official confirmation of those things being addressed? I am just guessing, but they'd require another patch? I haven't seen any EA guys confirm another patch? I am pretty sure last season they released one patch and then "moved on to next year's game". Can a LIVE producer confirm you are going to patch all this stuff?

I really love this years game and have not received the patch yet (PS3) but in my mind if they don't fix the issues that were created with the patch such as the OT glitch it will make this years game a total waste of all of EA's hard work IMO.

It really concerns me that EA has pretty much gone silent on the issues lately unless I have missed them responding besides we will look into it which was several days ago.

[Court_vision]

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I would imagine they'd have to..wouldnt they? I cant fathom them leavingthe stuff that the patch jacked up, in there.

This game is excellent inspite of those warts, so I do hope they take the time to do it.

To their credit...the EA guys have been really active for months now, letting everyone know exactly what's been going on and what to expect.

Since the patch dropped with tonnes of bugs...a lot of people have said "will there be a second patch?" to fix everything etc.

So far they've been silent.

Their twitter stuff says "working on LIVE 11" and Marcus has said in another thread that he won't be around here for a while anymore.

Call me cynical, but that seems to me to be "see you next year fellas"...i.e. no second patch.

Happy to be proven wrong.

[travis72]

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To their credit...the EA guys have been really active for months now, letting everyone know exactly what's been going on and what to expect.

Since the patch dropped with tonnes of bugs...a lot of people have said "will there be a second patch?" to fix everything etc.

So far they've been silent.

Their twitter stuff says "working on LIVE 11" and Marcus has said in another thread that he won't be around here for a while anymore.

Call me cynical, but that seems to me to be "see you next year fellas"...i.e. no second patch.

Happy to be proven wrong.

I would think they would have to fix these major bugs that the patch caused or else they would probably lose a lot of customers. I cant imagine that they would leave it this way. No OT, No points awarded for goaltending, those are major issues that make the game unplayable. Thats like a football game not awarding 3 points on fieldgoals, lol.

[Pappy Knuckles]

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I can't blame the developers for not wanting to come around here, but I'm really hoping they're reading some of the comments and drop another patch because it's neeed even more than it was before the last one. I keep turning on the game and can't even seem to get myself to play a full one anymore.

[jonesha2000]

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To their credit...the EA guys have been really active for months now, letting everyone know exactly what's been going on and what to expect.

Since the patch dropped with tonnes of bugs...a lot of people have said "will there be a second patch?" to fix everything etc.

So far they've been silent.

Their twitter stuff says "working on LIVE 11" and Marcus has said in another thread that he won't be around here for a while anymore.

Call me cynical, but that seems to me to be "see you next year fellas"...i.e. no second patch.

Happy to be proven wrong.

They are not re-established enough to pull that type of bafoonery...if they did, they would lose the fans that they have regained. 2k probably thought a lot of people would not make good on their threat to leave but that happened. Couldn't get their online servers right so I dropped em...if Live was to just leave the game as is with the known problems I would not purchase it next year. I seriously doubt they would leave it as is.

[The 24th Letter]

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I can't blame the developers for not wanting to come around here, but I'm really hoping they're reading some of the comments and drop another patch because it's neeed even more than it was before the last one. I keep turning on the game and can't even seem to get myself to play a full one anymore.

agreed.

[BBallGuru]

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Court_vision - Could you post your impressions of playing on Superstar diff. after the patch drops on PS3? I've yet to come across other people who've been playing on that level, just want to see if you have the same feeling as I.

On another patch... I certainly would hope they're looking into these problems, and releasing another version of this patch debugged. As to whether or not it will happen... I'll remain optimistic until given reason not to be.

The fact is that the Live 10 team has been great with communication, and although some may feel like they've abandoned us, we may have to take a step back and look at it through their eyes. They're working 9-5 on a basketball video game... and although I'm not questioning their love for what they do, I'm sure there are some days when they'd just like to get away from it, go home and relax, hang out with family and friends... not come on a forum and talk more about what they've been doing all day. It's a great job, but it's still a job.

I'm positive they're hearing us, and am hopeful that we'll have a response from somebody on the team in the near future. If they weren't looking into our issues, I'm sure they'd come out and say, "There will not be a second patch, the game is staying as is"; if not, the respect they've gained this year will have been lost.

I did spot this on Garreth's Twitter, though:

@iminurbase Hate to sound like a wet blanket, but is it safe to assume that we will be seeing another patch down the line?

@thefumary not sure yet

[Court_vision]

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I would think they would have to fix these major bugs that the patch caused or else they would probably lose a lot of customers. I cant imagine that they would leave it this way. No OT, No points awarded for goaltending, those are major issues that make the game unplayable. Thats like a football game not awarding 3 points on fieldgoals, lol.

I agree totally. My primary motive for buiying this game is the DNA and Dyamic Season patch...which means I 100% have to d/l the patch. I don't have a choice.

It's unfortunate what happened with the 360 patch...but I honestly can't see EA sending out a patch to PS3 users knowing that it's going to screw our games up. Knowing that they are going to inflict bugs on the product we paid $$$ for.

Call me naive, but I just don't see them doing that and am hoping the PS3 patch has been double checked and the bugs removed.

If they have sent it out...after knowing the 360 one has tonnes of bugs...then that will be a disgrace.

Let's see.

You can't inflict an O/T bug on a basketball gaming public...no O/T is just insane.

[Court_vision]

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Court_vision - Could you post your impressions of playing on Superstar diff. after the patch drops on PS3? I've yet to come across other people who've been playing on that level, just want to see if you have the same feeling as I.

I did spot this on Garreth's Twitter, though:

@iminurbase Hate to sound like a wet blanket, but is it safe to assume that we will be seeing another patch down the line?

@thefumary not sure yet

1.Shall do Guru.

2. I think it was Pared who said it a few days back...but EA basically can't afford to NOT release another patch.

These guys spent four months basically on every sports gaming site around saying "hey, this is a different EA...trust us".

If you give your users a Godzilla sized series of bugs...I mean, we are talking about games not going to overtime ! ...games where a user wins GOING to Ovetime...!!!...CPU AI dribbling down the shotclock when behind...the CPU fouling the user and sending the user to the free throw line when the user is behind...these are some seriously comical bugs that just kill the late game experience.

1. I hope the PS3 doesn't get inflicted with it...sorry 360 guys, but just because the fella down the road got the swine flu...i don't need to get it also.

2. If they do give us all those glitches as well...and don't patch it = goodbye credibility. 100% gone.

[TreyIM2]

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I don't know what to believe about what this patch is causing because I hear varying stories on the same issues. And since I'm waiting for the PS3 patch, there is mystery to that patch, anyway, because this may or may not have the same effects on the PS3 version of Live since there may be different issues with the PS3 and 360 versions of Live 10.
Maybe EA re-tested the PS3 version of the patch after hearing what happened to the 360 version of Live post-patch and yanked it back from Sony to better debug it for a future release then will release another patch for the 360 to fix post patch issues, there.

Whatever the case, I just know that no other b-ball game has ever hypnotized me like Live 10. This is crazy, for me, and I go back to video games from day 1, pretty much, and my first b-ball game was Double Dribble...which I STILL have. Woulda started with Atari's b-ball game...but Atari sucked so I got Colecovision which had NO b-ball game that I remember. Lol.

Anyway, I need this patch to come down asap!

[Wiffyjustus]

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Loving running the same play and seeing it being played uniquely everytime. Feels very organic.

e.g running a down 5 for a post player, sometimes he gets great inside position, sometimes the defender is all over him. Ran it 5 times in a row and each possession had it's own individual feel.

Love this game.






A patch to at least fix the serious glitches (OT etc) is a must. We, the consumer, are entitled to a functional product. If some further fine tuning (fouls, blocks etc) can be done as well that would be great.

[LAKE4742]

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Are people dismissing this game based soley on the OT issue, high point guard shooting percentages, and online fatigue working when set to OFF instead of ON (They did say repeatedly it works in reverse, no?)? Just asking.

As far as another patch? This reminds me of what's going on with Madden 10. EA Tiburon claimed to be taking Madden, and community interaction, to another level. All of a sudden, the game comes out, and they split. The devs are nowhere to be found. If Live devs are moving on, then that's a shame to leave it as is (No OT is huuuge, especially in basketball!!).

I really hope they're not abandoning it so soon. I assumed Live devs were a little more stand-up type guys, over EA Tiburon. I hope so. But, this could all be a grand scheme for EA. But, that wouldn't make much sense either, from a business stand point. Because blatant abandoning wouldn't win any points next year.

[sportyguyfl31]

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Are people dismissing this game based soley on the OT issue, high point guard shooting percentages, and online fatigue working when set to OFF instead of ON (They did say repeatedly it works in reverse, no?)? Just asking.

As far as another patch? This reminds me of what's going on with Madden 10. EA Tiburon claimed to be taking Madden, and community interaction, to another level. All of a sudden, the game comes out, and they split. The devs are nowhere to be found. If Live devs are moving on, then that's a shame to leave it as is (No OT is huuuge, especially in basketball!!).

I really hope they're not abandoning it so soon. I assumed Live devs were a little more stand-up type guys, over EA Tiburon. I hope so. But, this could all be a grand scheme for EA. But, that wouldn't make much sense either, from a business stand point. Because blatant abandoning wouldn't win any points next year.

there are a couple of legit problems that the patch has caused.

The OT issue, a small number of players appearing as "blobs", goaltends not being counted as buckets for the user, and the cpu getting the ball back after blocking your shot out of bounds sometimes.

Things like high point guard shooting %'s and foul call disparity are varying from user to user. A lot of it is play style,combined with difficulty level, as well as user error/ability.

Some people are seeing PGs light them up and are having the CPU shoot twice as many FTs as they do..others are not.

I fall into the latter category, so I cannot really put my finger on what issues people have, in that regard...although the fact that I have to bust my tail to match the CPUs FT shooting, while they get Lebron bail out calls, does get me hot under the collar, from time to time

I cant fathom EA leaving the patch as it is, it would be a horrid decision.

It doesnt make the game unplayable by any stretch, but it is a basic issue of integrity as far as I'm concerned. If you release something to the consumer that doesnt work properly, fix it.