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  • jlbrown143
    Rookie
    • Sep 2006
    • 161

    #76
    Re: Mike Wang Has Left EA Canada and the NBA Live Development Team

    I 've read all of the threads in here and I have to say I don't know to what degree Mike Wang's contribution made on the game but to me Live was a disgrace until he got there..lol

    I appreciate the mods and devs trying to take the sting off of the news ..but come on fellas...be real...live is improved over 09 but that's it. The game is still a year or two away from being great! We need to just be resigned to the fact that we love basketball and that EA and 2K have given us a great experience in getting as close to the game as we ever will outside of attending the games themselves.

    I am truly grateful for all of the games made good and bad because all of my winters and most of my summers have been filled with game playing...... mostly basketball games. Marcus and blackflash you guys want a good game just like the rest of us...we know that, but we have to blame somebody and since you guys are the closest you guys are it...not fair but true........I have one request for the company...quit acting like were idiots...and shoot straight from the hip with us!! we can handle the truth....give us that much atleast.

    You would have more respect for dealing straight up with us than running and hiding when the sh_t hits the fan....!! If the game is having issues, fix them and if you can't fix it, then just say you can't fix it...(is that really hard to do?) Empty hype and hollow promises will only lead to more disappointment and ridicule.....

    if you want your sales and your fans back...give us a game worth buying not one just getting you guys by.....we deserve better..really......we can't get our money back...were stuck once we give that 60 dollars to the game stop clerk. Respect is all we want!!! RESPECT!!! (I'm tired of wasting my hard earned money on unfinished products)
    Jambro

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    • Jano
      You Dead Wrong
      • May 2004
      • 3161

      #77
      Re: Mike Wang Has Left EA Canada and the NBA Live Development Team

      Originally posted by Pared
      krazyboy is actually right. The overreaction is phenomenal.

      It takes more than one person/two people to make/break things.

      And let's not all pretend the staff in place don't all have a different way of looking at game development after last year. These guys deserve a lot more credit than they're being given.

      Go look at the credits for Live '10. Way more than one or two names but if you'd read this forum you'd never know that.
      QFT this is basically my feelings on this whole situation. I understand all the anger and frustration but I'm not going to sit here and say that Live 11 is going to be a bust just because Wang and Marcus are gone. This game was still built by a team of guys so it still has a chance.

      Now one thing I can say is that this game is probably not going to sell well but thats because EA dug themselves a huge hole with Live 07. That game buried them deep and the only way they are going to build up a bigger fanbase is to continue improving.

      And imo they have been doing that just look at the progress from 07 to 10 its huge. Now that jump in quality isn't all that huge compared to 2K but its still something.

      I agree that the loss of Wang and Marcus was huge but I feel like it was one that took more credibility away from the team. I dont feel that losing them will completely destroy this teams ability to make a good basketball. Just look at 2K they lost Wang too but it did not take away from there ability to make a basketball game.

      This is all this team has left because imo they lost most of there credibility with Live 07. A lot of people didnt even want to look at Live again because of that disaster. And while Wang and Marcus did help the situation it only caused a minor look back from some fans as evidenced by the sales.

      Right now the Live development team's mission is to keep improving they cant do anything else at this point. They are not going to gain the respect of the bball community until they put out a great bball game. It may take them a couple years to get to that level and that's the problem here. Time is not on there side and it doesn't help that they are still trying to dig themselves out of that hole created by Live 07.

      So to sum this up the problem with Live right now is not the team that's creating the game but the problems that were created in its past. If the team that worked on Live 10 were to have developed the first next gen Live I think we would be in a better place right now.

      The team that is in place now is one that is actually dedicated to making a sim basketball game that could not be said for Live dev team's of the past. As gamers that's all we can really hold onto because if that's not there goal then we are in trouble.

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      • SageInfinite
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        • Jul 2002
        • 11896

        #78
        Re: Mike Wang Has Left EA Canada and the NBA Live Development Team

        Sad to see Mike Leave EA. I would've truly loved too see what Mike would've brought to NBA Live in the next couple of years. I wish the team left to work on NBA Live luck. You guys are going to need it.
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        • 23
          yellow
          • Sep 2002
          • 66469

          #79
          Re: Mike Wang Has Left EA Canada and the NBA Live Development Team

          Originally posted by stephensonmc
          I hope you guys are doing well, CV -- you're an animal

          BS -- you're a homer (j/k)
          23 -- keep the peace my man



          Take care,
          Marcus
          lol true enough

          good to see you man, hope things are working out well for you.. we still miss you man

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          • moefooljoe
            Banned
            • Sep 2005
            • 89

            #80
            Re: Mike Wang Has Left EA Canada and the NBA Live Development Team

            If you check on espn.com you'll see that mike wang is going to work for 2k again and had some very interesting things to say about ea sports.

            http://sports.espn.go.com/videogames...ory?id=4877673

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            • SHAKYR
              MVP
              • Nov 2003
              • 1795

              #81
              EA wanted to go more arcade than realistic with NBA LIVE and Mike Wang wanted no parts of this. EA needs to fire the head of marketing because he doesn't know anything about the type of customers who buy Sports games games. Most Sports games are bought by sports fans and they want their sport represented as deeply as possible. EA doesn't have a clue.

              I might lose my good standing with EA and it's producers but I don't care. It is what it is.
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              • travis72
                Banned
                • Aug 2009
                • 1491

                #82
                Re: Mike Wang Has Left EA Canada and the NBA Live Development Team

                Originally posted by SHAKYR
                EA wanted to go more arcade than realistic with NBA LIVE and Mike Wang wanted no parts of this. EA needs to fire the head of marketing because he doesn't know anything about the type of customers who buy Sports games games. Most Sports games are bought by sports fans and they want their sport represented as deeply as possible. EA doesn't have a clue.

                I might lose my good standing with EA and it's producers but I don't care. It is what it is.
                Well if there going arcade than I am back to 2k. With Wang back at 2k now they will probably have the best game once again. IMO live was better this year but I highly doubt it for next. Hope the EA guys prove me wrong and not go arcade crap on us sim guys.

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                • JohnDoe8865
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 9607

                  #83
                  Re: Mike Wang Has Left EA Canada and the NBA Live Development Team

                  Hate to say it, but I kinda saw this coming yesterday in the "Where is Mike Wang" thread. It's like being in a tunnel and you see the train lights coming at you, but can't move. That's how I feel about Live right now, and they just lost the train conductor too.

                  No possible way to spin this into "good" news for NBA LIVE.
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                  • Logic Doctor
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 45

                    #84
                    He basically took a dump on EA Sports

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                    • tabulaRasa
                      Pro
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 641

                      #85
                      How about trying to be on par with NBA2k10? Funny that he referred to only EA titles...

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                      • Court_vision
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 8290

                        #86
                        Re: Mike Wang Has Left EA Canada and the NBA Live Development Team

                        Beluba is not holding back...


                        Every year NBA Live seems to take a new direction, only to shift gears again the next year when it’s not lauded a complete success. Are there too many camps pulling the game in different directions?

                        MW: Yeah I definitely think that’s the case. When I went there I kind of went there with a three-year vision to do something. We finished NBA Live 10 and after talking over with management what they wanted to do, I think that they feel like they need to do something different all the time – I think they are trying to reinvent the wheel sometimes. Unfortunately, they haven’t had the chance to gain any traction that way and build on top of the many things that are substantial.

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                        • Tico Da Great
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 54

                          #87
                          Live ?

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                          • Pappy Knuckles
                            LORDTHUNDERBIRD
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 15966

                            #88
                            Re: Mike Wang Has Left EA Canada and the NBA Live Development Team

                            Guess I better hold on to Live 10. Who knows what we're gonna get next year.

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                            • JohnDoe8865
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 9607

                              #89
                              Re: Mike Wang Has Left EA Canada and the NBA Live Development Team

                              Originally posted by Pappy Knuckles
                              Guess I better hold on to Live 10. Who knows what we're gonna get next year.
                              Yeah man, Live 10 is like a collector's item for me now. I wouldn't trade it for $60. The last sim LIVE ever maybe ...
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                              • ataman5
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 2620

                                #90
                                Re: Mike Wang Has Left EA Canada and the NBA Live Development Team

                                Originally posted by JohnDoe8865
                                Yeah man, Live 10 is like a collector's item for me now. I wouldn't trade it for $60. The last sim LIVE ever maybe ...
                                You better; as i would do. As i've said that Live 10 is a game that could be played after 2-3 years of time; a classy sim game that i couldn't imagine before.

                                EA is just unbelievable; i've said in another thread before the news that there is no way Wang would be moved not in this world but i guess i forgot what EA is really stand for; money unfortunately and now the honeymoon is over for me with EA and live after i get back to it five years later; i believe i'll wait for another 5 or more to buy a live game again.

                                And this is even worse for any bball game fan; i hope that 2k would change its engine as it reached its peak and now it's tearing apart no matter who leads them, none of the brilliant ideas Wang have can be realized with that engine.

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