7 Minute NBA Elite 11 Video (Gamespot)

[rEAnimator]

Re: 7 Minute NBA Elite Video (Gamespot)

Ok cool. 3 questions!!!
1.When will the demo come out and will the 360 version come out b4 the ps3 version

2. Are post moves revamped this year?

3. I saw something i didnt like in another video, when lebron went to the hole, durant just slid backwards to let him drive for the layup... WITHOUT MOVING HIS FEET!! Wth. It'll be more realistic if durant took two steps back in a defensive stance and get pushed to the side by lebron's strength/force.

1. I don't know the answer to this one.

2. Yes, a lot of work is going into the post moves and the controls are being revamped to match with the rest of the game. I think some of it was demoed by Connor in the video.

3. Do you have a link to the video? It's hard to speak to it based only on the description. I believe you, but things get fixed and changed so quickly here that without seeing it myself I can't say for sure if we've addressed it or not.

[Wiffyjustus]

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We are not getting rid of freestyle passing, but I don't want to talk too much about it in detail right now because some of the details might still change (probably not, but discussion are being had).

I've probably said too much already...but since you're easily hyped it was too tempting to pass up

Thanks. Good to know.

At best it's in, at worst it's still on the table. That is good enough for me at this point.

Best of luck with the game.

[tehBomBthreat]

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1. I don't know the answer to this one.

2. Yes, a lot of work is going into the post moves and the controls are being revamped to match with the rest of the game. I think some of it was demoed by Connor in the video.

3. Do you have a link to the video? It's hard to speak to it based only on the description. I believe you, but things get fixed and changed so quickly here that without seeing it myself I can't say for sure if we've addressed it or not.

Lol i over exaggerated. Just doesnt look right to me though, maybe be my eyes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0SzJeta4Mk

Start at 0:45

[Jano]

Re: 7 Minute NBA Elite Video (Gamespot)

The controls look very intuitive and easy to pick up, once I again I gotta say I'm excited to get my hands on this game.

It looks like the game is goin to be even deeper then last year, hopefully both the defensive controls and offensive ones can be evenly matched.

If they are we should be in for a great basketball year with both EA and 2K attempting to eliminate canned animations and addin control.

[rEAnimator]

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Lol i over exaggerated. Just doesnt look right to me though, maybe be my eyes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0SzJeta4Mk

Start at 0:45

First of all, thanks. I hadn't seen that video yet. Pretty cool to see those guys playing the game.

As for the problem you pointed out, there's a lot going on there so let me see if I can break it down a little.

1. The defender is user controlled, so I don't know from looking at the video if the user was retreating or trying to hold his ground. If he was retreating then the behavior and outcome are appropriate. If he was trying to hold his ground, then I agree the outcome is not correct and we'll need to look at that problem. It's very similar to some of the things pointed out in the NLSC recap. I can promise you we'll be working hard on the physical play on defense. In fact I'm going to test that out tonight and see what the current state of in collision dribble moves is.

2. As for the sliding, I agree that there's a problem there and it looks a little floaty. You can see the defender is switching between shade left and shade right postures, and we have some issues with foot sliding in posture changes right now that need to get fixed. No big deal, I know we'll do it. But it hasn't been done yet.

The other issue is that we're missing some animations when the defender is in collision so he ends up looking like he's sliding around. It's hard to say for sure if this is a contributing factor or not, but it may be. As soon as we get those anims in the game things should look a lot more grounded.

So thanks for the heads up, I'll be double checking these systems to make sure they're working as they should.

[RayDog253]

Re: 7 Minute NBA Elite Video (Gamespot)

I'm sold on the controls, now lets see how it looks with 10 players on the court.

[tehBomBthreat]

Re: 7 Minute NBA Elite Video (Gamespot)

First of all, thanks. I hadn't seen that video yet. Pretty cool to see those guys playing the game.

As for the problem you pointed out, there's a lot going on there so let me see if I can break it down a little.

1. The defender is user controlled, so I don't know from looking at the video if the user was retreating or trying to hold his ground. If he was retreating then the behavior and outcome are appropriate. If he was trying to hold his ground, then I agree the outcome is not correct and we'll need to look at that problem. It's very similar to some of the things pointed out in the NLSC recap. I can promise you we'll be working hard on the physical play on defense. In fact I'm going to test that out tonight and see what the current state of in collision dribble moves is.

2. As for the sliding, I agree that there's a problem there and it looks a little floaty. You can see the defender is switching between shade left and shade right postures, and we have some issues with foot sliding in posture changes right now that need to get fixed. No big deal, I know we'll do it. But it hasn't been done yet.

The other issue is that we're missing some animations when the defender is in collision so he ends up looking like he's sliding around. It's hard to say for sure if this is a contributing factor or not, but it may be. As soon as we get those anims in the game things should look a lot more grounded.

So thanks for the heads up, I'll be double checking these systems to make sure they're working as they should.

you just confirmed my day one purchase

[funkysven]

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Good work rEAnimator. Good to see you working hard at answering the questions, queries, criticisms already. Only 3 - 4 months of it to go!

[PVarck31]

Re: 7 Minute NBA Elite Video (Gamespot)

In the Mortal Kombat guys voice "Impressive".

[RayDog253]

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I have to admit that I was wowed by what I saw, just don't want to over hype myself.

[Jano]

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Thanks for the info rEAnimator i've got one question though, how long does it take to fix issues with this game? B/c the way the guys who went the EA even they described as a quick process.

So for example if the things that BomBthreat pointed are issues with the animations would it be a simple fix or a more complex one?

[ajknows]

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rEAnimator thanks for your time on here you seem to be on top of things and I like where you guys are going with elite this year.

One small thing that bothers me though is the animation you have for a player picking up or going to retrieve a ball is really bad. Just look in this 7 min vid, it's to quick and not very natrual. I've done alot of shooting ball on the court by my self and rarely do I run and bend down with two hands really quick to get the ball. Most of the time I reach with one hand grab the ball as its bouncing and in the same motion start the dribble or if it's low to the ground I might slap it a few quick times to get the dribble going, and some guy's may reach down and palm it.

Just some thought's on a small but annoying issue to me.

[TUSS11]

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I feel like a little kid on Christmas Eve! CAN'T WAIT!!!

[Earl1963]

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This game is going to be "Elite".

[rEAnimator]

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Thanks for the info rEAnimator i've got one question though, how long does it take to fix issues with this game? B/c the way the guys who went the EA even they described as a quick process.

So for example if the things that BomBthreat pointed are issues with the animations would it be a simple fix or a more complex one?

Some issues are really difficult and can take days/weeks to get right and some take minutes/hours to fix.

But the guys who went to EA are right, we've made huge improvements to our technology and workflows that allow us to fix things way quicker than we could before. What it does is pushes a lot more of the issues into the minutes/hours category which is great for us and great for the end product.

The specific issues BomBthreat pointed out...the missing animation component of it is an easy fix, keeping the dribbler from making forward progress while in collision is an easy fix.

Some of the foot sliding might be more difficult to fix, but until I had confirmed what the cause of it was it's hard to say for sure.