Ask the devs : Physics

[Jesus]

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Interesting questions aside from the 2nd one. When was the last time you saw a defender flip over an offensive player when trying to contest a 3pt shot in real life?

actually it happened a few times last season. No kart-wheels, but he went over him in a fashion.

And if that doesn't float your boat, the same situation can be said for a pump fake on a lunging big under the rim.

[s.thomas]

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So far, blocking hasn't been addressed too much but is it possible for someone to get stuffed while attempting a dunk? I know this may be a problem due to the removal of two player animations. I was just wondering because sometimes when blocking a dunk there is a struggle (contact) in which the defender overall wins sending the dunker stumbling back (prime examples would be many of Alonzo Mourning blocks). Can this be seen in the game or is it just a clean block so the ball always flies loose and the offensive player continues his animation at the rim?

[Tha_Kid]

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Sorry, but I don't have a lot of information on the plans for injuries.

I'll pass you're ideas on to the guy working on injuries though.

Thanks.

Just going back through this thread, I wonder what the guy working on injuries even did when there is nothing new there in Elite.

[rEAnimator]

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Just going back through this thread, I wonder what the guy working on injuries even did when there is nothing new there in Elite.

Just maintaining what we had last year, nothing new was added (as you already know).

[bigball12]

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Did you guys finally re-acquire the Madison Square Garden license? MSG was in Live's 03'-07', but became the 'New York City Arena' in 08', and has not come back. What happened?

[SamCassell=Alien]

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Anybody have a sweater they could lend me...

[jaosming]

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After seeing that new putback dunk video I can appreciate more how the game handles the collisions in a game sense. IMO it was a good no-call and I LOVE that we can interrupt dunks/layups/putbacks like that with proper positioning.

However, I dont think it looked very good to the visual eye. It's probably too late for Elite, but are there plans to make the collisions look better in Elite 12/13? Again I can appreciate the collision happening, but looking at the clip Okafor and Prince dont actually make contact on the play...they kinda had a forcefield effect. Not like the forcefields in 2k/Live games, but they still didnt make full body contact. Is that something that is going to be worked out next year? Or is it a limitation of the ANT system that would cause too much clipping?

[rEAnimator]

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After seeing that new putback dunk video I can appreciate more how the game handles the collisions in a game sense. IMO it was a good no-call and I LOVE that we can interrupt dunks/layups/putbacks like that with proper positioning.

However, I dont think it looked very good to the visual eye. It's probably too late for Elite, but are there plans to make the collisions look better in Elite 12/13? Again I can appreciate the collision happening, but looking at the clip Okafor and Prince dont actually make contact on the play...they kinda had a forcefield effect. Not like the forcefields in 2k/Live games, but they still didnt make full body contact. Is that something that is going to be worked out next year? Or is it a limitation of the ANT system that would cause too much clipping?

Like I said in previous posts, in collision situations we aren't doing any collision detection or response on the limbs, except on blocks and steals.

The physics is being run on the chest, shoulders and hips.

So in the video I'm pretty sure there is contact (I haven't watched it again since reading your post bit the other 3 times I watched it I saw contact).

I think why you still see a "force field" which is different is because the limbs aren't being altered so they don't necessarily match the physics on the other body parts.

That is something I'd like to add in the future, but this year was about getting that foundation in place and we succeeded. Everything about the physics collision system that impacts gameplay is in this year, and that's the trickiest part to get right.

I'd like to see us pretty it up in future iterations, but I'm very happy with the core that we've built, and it really makes for a better gameplay experience.

[jaosming]

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it really makes for a better gameplay experience.

I can definitely understand that, I guess I'm just spoiled by Backbreaker and unfairly using it as a comparison.

Ah well, more time playing less time replaying, I can surely live with that as long as the game plays as organic for me as I've seen.

[rEAnimator]

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I can definitely understand that, I guess I'm just spoiled by Backbreaker and unfairly using it as a comparison.

Ah well, more time playing less time replaying, I can surely live with that as long as the game plays as organic for me as I've seen.

Yeah, it seems a lot of people are using that as a comparison point.

Glad to hear you appreciate what we're doing.

Thanks.

[s.thomas]

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I think i had posted a good question(on pg25) rEAnimator if there is anyway you could answer my question if it is not possible then it just not possible.

[Halfamazing]

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If your dribbling into the defender is it going to bounce off him if your forcing it?

[rEAnimator]

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If your dribbling into the defender is it going to bounce off him if your forcing it?

Yes, if you don't protect the ball (ie dribble with the wrong hand based on which direction you're moving) and run into a defender the ball will get knocked loose.

[oOausarOo]

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Will there be a slider allowing users to increase or decrease the effect of physics in the game?

[thcchoi]

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The net moves even before the ball gets to the rim.

This was a well-known issue from day one and it STILL has NOT been fixed.

Please let us know when this problem will be fixed.

I've added the evidence below (so check out the vid between 0:40-0:46)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX7lokWY20M

Thanks