REAL TIME PHSYICS (the Ugly Duckling)

[m-easy]

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it doesn't matter if i know how to make games or not. that's not my role in all of this. i'm just letting it be known what it'll take for me to take this franchise seriously. if EA intends to put the stuff i value on the back burner, then w/e. i'll just keep my $60 and keep it moving

So why are you still in these forums? Its obvious that they don't have what you want this year.

[ataman5]

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It's a very good post friend, i'm all behind of what you wrote 100%.

[convince]

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So why are you still in these forums? Its obvious that they don't have what you want this year.

Who are you to question why someone is in a forum? His opinion doesn't matter b/c he doesn't agree with you?

And to the original poster's comment

in addition for the guys that keep saying "i cant see any real time physics in these videos" the answer is You're not really going to. real time physics vs canned animations its not something you see. its something you Feel while you actually play the game. videos will not do RTp any justice. so please stop asking it to.

I hope you are kidding. You telling you not going to see physics in a game that consist of contact? Its something that you have to feel? I'm assume you have insight on the new "Rumble Vest" that EA is including with the game. (That would so awesome though)

But seriously, If that comment was correct, which honestly makes no sense, then why release videos such as this one: http://www.youtube.com/user/MrOperat...39/uB2sV4_uPkU

[NINJAK2]

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OP has a point. This is a sports forum though and if we can't comment on things until we actually play a game 90% of these threads should be shut down. Control has never been an issue for Live/Elite....imo animations have. These vids imo aren't promising for that. Video games aren't savings bonds. We buy them for instant gratification not for what they will be worth years from now. IMO Live/Elite has changed their plans so many times some people don't trust them at this point. I'm still waiting for the demo as the OP said we should.

[ataman5]

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Who are you to question why someone is in a forum? His opinion doesn't matter b/c he doesn't agree with you?

And to the original poster's comment

I hope you are kidding. You telling you not going to see physics in a game that consist of contact? Its something that you have to feel? I'm assume you have insight on the new "Rumble Vest" that EA is including with the game. (That would so awesome though)

But seriously, If that comment was correct, which honestly makes no sense, then why release videos such as this one: http://www.youtube.com/user/MrOperat...39/uB2sV4_uPkU

Play the demo for an unbiased opinion and then see and judge yourself, pls.

[m-easy]

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Who are you to question why someone is in a forum? His opinion doesn't matter b/c he doesn't agree with you?

And to the original poster's comment

I hope you are kidding. You telling you not going to see physics in a game that consist of contact? Its something that you have to feel? I'm assume you have insight on the new "Rumble Vest" that EA is including with the game. (That would so awesome though)

But seriously, If that comment was correct, which honestly makes no sense, then why release videos such as this one: http://www.youtube.com/user/MrOperat...39/uB2sV4_uPkU

Who are you? What is his opinion?

[JerseySuave4]

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slight hit? Try major hit.

That message is basically EA coming out and saying we made changes to the game and it doesnt look too good but please still trust us and give us your money because next year it will get better (we promise). Dont judge it based on how it looks (which is odd since you do still need a game that looks good since you're watching it), base it on how it feels (since you need to buy/rent the game in order to feel it).

When the demo comes out and people complain about the demo the defense to that is going to be "its a demo and not the final product, the final product will be much better."

[ataman5]

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slight hit? Try major hit.

That message is basically EA coming out and saying we made changes to the game and it doesnt look too good but please still trust us and give us your money because next year it will get better (we promise). Dont judge it based on how it looks (which is odd since you do still need a game that looks good since you're watching it), base it on how it feels (since you need to buy/rent the game in order to feel it).

When the demo comes out and people complain about the demo the defense to that is going to be "its a demo and not the final product, the final product will be much better."

Umm why do you bother replying here, then it's already a finished product and if you don't like what you see and what you will get, why waste your time on bashing a game that you didn't even play.

There is the other game if you like it better.

And you already know the excuses and everything you will see and hear from ea, so.

I really don't understand, everything is ok whoever comes and bashes the ea or elite just for the sake of bashing and what happens over the other game section.

Hmm odd right.

[jfsolo]

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OP has a point. This is a sports forum though and if we can't comment on things until we actually play a game 90% of these threads should be shut down. Control has never been an issue for Live/Elite....imo animations have. These vids imo aren't promising for that. Video games aren't savings bonds. We buy them for instant gratification not for what they will be worth years from now. IMO Live/Elite has changed their plans so many times some people don't trust them at this point. I'm still waiting for the demo as the OP said we should.

This is a great line.

[oOausarOo]

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I agree OP. EA and the devs were very upfront about what they were trying to accomplish this year. It's hard to tell how well they accomplished their goals without playing the game.

However now that I see the game it's hard for me to imagine the control feeling so great that I will want to purchase it simply because it doesn't look good to the eye.

[JerseySuave4]

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Umm why do you bother replying here, then it's already a finished product and if you don't like what you see and what you will get, why waste your time on bashing a game that you didn't even play.

There is the other game if you like it better.

And you already know the excuses and everything you will see and hear from ea, so.

I really don't understand, everything is ok whoever comes and bashes the ea or elite just for the sake of bashing and what happens over the other game section.

Hmm odd right.

just like you have a right to say what you like about a game, i have the same right to voice my disappointment with it as well.

If all these forums consisted of was people that liked a particular game (whether it be Madden, NCAA Football, NBA Elite, NBA 2k, MLB the Show, NHL 11, Fifa, whatever) just praising the game then this place would be boring and developers would think that everything they did was gold. Truth is they prob care more about the negative things people are saying because it lets them know where their mistakes are then the people that just say everything is great no matter what.

Its like the parents that tell their kid they are an amazing athlete even though they suck. At some point theyre going to face reality and reality is going to be brutally honest with them and tell them they suck.

I'm not some fanboy or whatever people like to call someone who doesnt like or agree or has a difference in opinion. I own more EA games then i do any other company. Each year i look at the new games coming out and decide individually if i want to buy it. I dont care if i own another NBA game i still consider buying both each year. I am very pleased with what 2k has done and i have voiced that on those forums so i have nothing more to say on those forums about the good. Especially because we havent had anything new from them in a few days so once they release something new i'll comment on that. Right now Elite has released the latest stuff so right now its the hotter topic that i'm more interested in.

[yungflo]

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lol thats a bunch of PR bs

basically, our game is in a rebuilding mode, we appreciate if you spend the money to buy our subpar game. Presentation is as much gameplay itself.

hard to get a feel when you're just throwing sticks around to get by the defender. you don't need to play to see that.

lol.

imo they could of built on live 10, but ill wait for elite 13 to make a judgment. its a 3yr plan, right?

[Dawgthem]

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Every year something get put on the back burner. Do you have any idea of what it takes to make a game?

NO it dosen't matter what it takes to make a game your the customer, and the customer is the one who decides wether your game flops.

[Forever_Young83]

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You guys don't get it, do you?? None of us are bashing the game becasue we don't have anything else better to do well (well some of us). We're bashing it becasue #1 it's looks bad, #2 We like for them to do better.. for competition at least.

[JerseySuave4]

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You guy don't get it, do you?? None of us are bashing the game becasue we don't have anything else better to do well (well some of us). We're bashing it becasue #1 it's looks bad, #2 We like for them to do better.. for competition at least.

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