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  • drss
    Banned
    • Sep 2010
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    #436
    Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available For PS3, Later Today For 360, Post Impressions Here

    Originally posted by fatleg3
    I had the same felling at first as if the ai guarding me knew what i was going to do before i did it. He matched my exact motion but as im getting better with controls i am able to get more separation

    Can you explain more on the weird logic. Isnt that what they are pose to do if they are down late in the game with not enough time to make stops and score?
    Really? How do you do it? The AI is so glued. Give me some pointers, please.

    Weird logic: They were doing it constantly. Basically feeding me free points nonstop. I would be like 5 points ahead originally, but at the end I was like 12 points or more ahead. I can't remember the exact situation but I think they even fouled me when I was screwing up and a turn over was coming; they essentially saved me from the turnover.

    Which reminds me, I cant see the intentional foul animation for some reason.

    Elite is a tough sell for me right now. I have fun with it, I just hope it has less rough edges.

    2K11 is the reverse. everything else is so awesome, but the controls were frustrating for me, and the game wasn't as fun no matter how many times I play the demo and try to convince myself to love it and let it be the game I get.

    Obviously, these are games and I should buy according to whats Fun. and Elite is more fun.

    But that's only IF I have to get NBA. I can choose NHL and FIFA as well, both of those are excellent in every way and nearly no rough edges. (I hope this is what Elite will look like by 2012).

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    • Pared
      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
      • Feb 2003
      • 39337

      #437
      Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

      Originally posted by ceej989
      I just have a silly question/suggestion, why not next year or whatever have some sort of beta? I think getting as many people to play it and give feedback right off the bat I think would definitely help development of it. I'm not saying EA doesn't do their own play testing, but especially since they are doing a lot of tweaking and such, it might be something to look into.
      It's financially out of the realm of possibility.

      Plus with the speed of game development, it's ultimately a huge waste of time.
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      • qontrolz
        Banned
        • Oct 2009
        • 207

        #438
        Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

        Originally posted by Mr. Poppycock
        If EA really said "nba elite is the first basketball game to feel like nba basketball." ...
        it's quoted from the description of the demo on xbl

        i agree that EA knows how to make some great sport games, i actually only play basketball and soccer game, and Fifa is the best soccer game ever every year since 2009 ! fifa11 actually has the same "real life feelings" that nba2k11 has (based on the demos)

        like u said, playing elite i really felt like playing ... "just" a video game.

        EA knew that elite was a risky gamble anyway, and it was... it might pay off.. just not this year imo.

        but as i said before, i ll give it a shot next year

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        • RubenDouglas
          Hall Of Fame
          • May 2003
          • 11202

          #439
          Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

          Originally posted by Pared
          Wait a second.. it should be one of the bumpers plus face button. Is that not the case?
          correction. your right. Its LB+RB plus face buttons. Sorry about that. It's just terribly clunky and slow. About the worst I've ever seen it in a video game since Icon passing started

          Im having better luck on pass quickness and accuracy using the free style passing, RB+Right stick on alternate control scheme

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          • ceej989
            Rookie
            • Sep 2010
            • 14

            #440
            Originally posted by Pared
            It's financially out of the realm of possibility.

            Plus with the speed of game development, it's ultimately a huge waste of time.
            True, I guess considering the developers need to churn out these games every year, they have to get cranking and hope for the best. They don't have the luxury of a development time like Starcraft 2 :-P.

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            • lakers4life
              Rookie
              • Aug 2004
              • 168

              #441
              Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

              Why did they do this overhaul? I really thought Live 10 was pretty fun, it just needed some tweaking. I seriously can't even play this game, it's just too hard...

              I relaly hope they do well in 3 years because this year isn't looking good..

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              • Quel
                Banned
                • Sep 2010
                • 22

                #442
                Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available For PS3, Later Today For 360, Post Impressions Here

                Has anyone seen a single instance of RTP yet?


                Also, I love the controlls, and how the skill matters, but 5-5 just is not great.

                But, it's the first year of a major over-haul, you can't expect greatness.
                Last edited by Quel; 09-21-2010, 10:27 AM.

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                • convince
                  Pro
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 725

                  #443
                  Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                  Okay here's the deal, the controls did not seem as responsive going from practice to 5 on 5 gameplay. That auto strafe on defense in my opinon is a game killer. I just hope ther is a way to disable it. Not being able to face where i want to face is not good. And i agree w/ what the others said moving the pass button to R2/RT is pointless and can be confusing at times. Especially since "B(O)" doesn't seem to be all that important now. Rebounding is atrocious, it seems to predetermined and the "animations" at times look out of place. And the number one issue i have with the demo is AI gameplay. There is is absolutely no authentic game calling by the CPU. It seems that all they do is look to take you off the dribble one on one or via a screen. I have come across one pick and roll or any occasion where every player touched the ball on a possesion. In the four games i played KG had 2 looks. That was two out of the 6 times they went to the post in those four games. I hope my experience with the AI is in the minority. But IMO the game is geered towards user vs user. I am an offline User vs CPU player. And since the game seem to lack Authenic AI team gameplay/play calling, i have to pass. Until you guys release video of AI ran Suns team, where i can see actual plays being ran by them, i will just assume the demo represents the final product in regards to AI and that will force me to pass. While every other fault that i mention can be fixed via sliders, this is the one thing i think can not.
                  GT Agent August
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                  • Forever_Young83
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 225

                    #444
                    Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                    I couldn't handle playing this game for more than 3 minutes, which afterwards i deleted from my HDD.

                    Control - Terrible
                    Gameplay - Terrible
                    Graphics - Terrible
                    Audio - Passable
                    Presentation - Decent

                    Overall - This game isn't worth 60$ and should be reduced to $20.

                    I would never think to purchase this game after that demo.

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                    • fatleg3
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 3602

                      #445
                      Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available For PS3, Later Today For 360, Post Impressions Here

                      Originally posted by drss
                      Really? How do you do it? The AI is so glued. Give me some pointers, please.

                      Weird logic: They were doing it constantly. Basically feeding me free points nonstop. I would be like 5 points ahead originally, but at the end I was like 12 points or more ahead. I can't remember the exact situation but I think they even fouled me when I was screwing up and a turn over was coming; they essentially saved me from the turnover.

                      Which reminds me, I cant see the intentional foul animation for some reason.

                      Elite is a tough sell for me right now. I have fun with it, I just hope it has less rough edges.

                      2K11 is the reverse. everything else is so awesome, but the controls were frustrating for me, and the game wasn't as fun no matter how many times I play the demo and try to convince myself to love it and let it be the game I get.

                      Obviously, these are games and I should buy according to whats Fun. and Elite is more fun.

                      But that's only IF I have to get NBA. I can choose NHL and FIFA as well, both of those are excellent in every way and nearly no rough edges. (I hope this is what Elite will look like by 2012).
                      get used to the controls is the best thing i can tell you. when i wasnt getting any separation i was just moving the sticks and not knowing what i was doing Im not saying im totally losing the defender but i do get room to drive or pull up if i want to

                      with the logic thing that is what teams would do if you or up by like 5 to 10 points with less then a min left. It not free points because its not a given that you will hit your free throws. Yea i know its a lil easy on the demo but thats not the ai's fault. and it seems as if the intentional foul animation is just them reaching in. Its not the hugging type animation thats been in the series in the past

                      And what you are saying about 2k i feel the same way. Im still trying but its still to frustrating with the controls that its not fun. Yea everyone knows elite has its rough edges but at least its fun to me and at the same time its not an nba jam or nba street type fun. Its authentic nba rules realistic basketball type fun

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                      • 49UNCFan
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                        • Aug 2010
                        • 2460

                        #446
                        Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                        Not my cup of tea
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                        • seemoe
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 349

                          #447
                          Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                          ALL of my videos of the demo. Enjoy!


                          Become Legendary intro and creating player


                          Become Legendary gameplay


                          Celtics VS Lakers


                          Tutorial from the beginning of the game

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                          • faster
                            MVP
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 2182

                            #448
                            Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                            Usually you watch a video and you can't get the true feeling of the game. WIth this video -- you can. It's choppy, ugly, robotic, out-of-sync feeling is exactly how it plays.

                            If I was EA, I would have taken a year off to refine the game to a point where it's playable to the general public. Shoot, develop this game and improve upon NBA Live 10. Regardless, they risk losing a huge amount of fans by putting out a game this unpolished. Remember, Live was getting trounced and it took a few years for people to come back. We came back but many still didn't. What ground EA made up probably is going to be lost.

                            The controls will serve us all well but there's just too much else to be frustrated about to play. Madden can get away with this type of stuff since they own the market.
                            Last edited by ryan36; 09-21-2010, 10:40 AM. Reason: removed inappropriate video
                            "Well the NBA is in great hands but if I had to pick the single greatest player on the planet, I take Kobe Bryant without hesitation." - Michael Jordan, 2006

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                            • qontrolz
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 207

                              #449
                              Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                              this guy is funny ^^

                              well, i have to agree with him on every point tho.. especially the very last one.
                              Last edited by ryan36; 09-21-2010, 10:41 AM. Reason: removed inappropriate video

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                              • atlwarya
                                Rookie
                                • Jun 2005
                                • 331

                                #450
                                Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                                Um Im sticking with NBA Live 10 and getting that other game. Im just not feeling elite.

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