NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

[utexas]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

I'm in the minority but really enjoyed the demo. It has a steep learning curve and tying to remember what does what will take time. I don't get into net physics or shoes, I only focus on gameplay. I can't wait to build up my guy in the online 5 on 5 stuff. I really don't see why all the gripping, but to each his own. For the record I'm getting both games, but elite will get the bulk of my gaming time.

I like the fact the game is challenging. In sports games, it almost needs to be difficult because human vs human will get out hand pretty quickly if everybody could do the same stuff. I think it will reward the guys who really try to learn the game. Just my .02

[ghiz143]

that's why durant never really smiled during interview in their video blogs.

[Pared]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

Guys, this isn't a chat thread.

Post impressions or don't post.

Guys that can't follow this will find themselves looking for another forum.

Enough is enough.

[videobastard]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

The controls felt awkward. All my shots were bricks. I had to play around with how my thumb would go up with the right analog. Did not feel comfortable shooting in the demo. The dribble system was easy to use. The animations and game play just feel like a game that is dated. Its hard to continue playing the game when it plays so ugly.

I think EA would of been better off taking the year off of the main basketball game and marketed NBA Jam instead. The whole changing of the name to elite should of incorporated a whole new animation and game play engine.

[Jackdog]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

Pared summed up my thoughts as well.

[oliveira311]

I will preface this by saying I am a fan of "Basketball Games" period. I started with Live in the old days, moved to 2K in '00 then last year I bought both and actually was very impressed by Live.

With that being said, I initially thought the change Elite was making by going away from animations was a good thing. I thought 2K10 was plagued by players "getting stuck" in long animations. I liked 2K10 a lot but it was something I thought Elite was going to solve. It did to a certain extent but I just doesn't accomplish the goal in a "smooth" fashion. It is a bit rigid at times and lacks the "style" that NBA players have.

I agree with a lot of posts on this forum: I think they should have built on last year and added the free flowing mechanics. 2K11 really ironed out all the transitions from animation to animation to a point where you don't get that "robotic" feel that a video game can produce. I am generally not a fan of the, "3 year plan" that developers give us but let's hope that we all can look back and say, "man what an improvement from Elite 11" - similar to the transformation from FIFA 07 to what we see in today's FIFA 11.

[StickeeGreen]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

Guys, this isn't a chat thread.

Post impressions or don't post.

Guys that can't follow this will find themselves looking for another forum.

Enough is enough.

Pared, man you got me scared to give my impressions. This is an impressions forum right? I mean I can't sugarcoat this one...

[cjone03]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available For PS3, Later Today For 360, Post Impressions Here

This is by for the weakest game i have played, i jus hit 8 threes with kobe nd hit 4 with somebody else nd ended the game with 97 points.

[Pared]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

Pared, man you got me scared to give my impressions. This is an impressions forum right? I mean I can't sugarcoat this one...

It doesn't matter if they are positive or negative. How you explain yourself is more important.

People are actually trying to read through this thread and it is a mess.

Just post what you think about the game and explain why. If you are unsure of examples of what I mean, look to some of our long-time posters.

A good example: http://www.operationsports.com/vBull...post2041635893

[scottyp180]

Pointing things out as I play:

-Gather button is way to powerful. seems like u can use it to get by your defender at will
- The crowd cheered when I stripped/stole the ball with the C's?
-I like the the cpu defense stays in front of your man not letting you get by, but they literally just stand infront of you and will not allow you to get by. I'm only playing on pro so Rondo should be able to use his speed against fisher.
-Saw some good physics based reactions such as players falling/reacting to contact on shots, drives where contact was made effecting the layup/dunk,
-Commentary is better than what I expected, what I heard from the videos commentary sounded boring and not dynamic or live. The commentators react to whats going on on the court pretty well and bring up topics besides whats going on on the court.
-I really dislike that they removed turbo and replaced it with a pass button (I know I can change the controls but I'm trying to give the new controls a chance first). Maybe because the pass button has pretty much been the same for all basketball games but using RT/R2 to pass just doesn't feel right.
-Freethrows are kind of tough, mainly because I'm not looking at the indicators of when to release the shot. I feel like i should know when to shoot just by looking at the players gestures. In game the indicators aren't needed to know when to shoot, I feel like they are necessary if you want to hit freethrows.
-Defensive fouls, even when they are intentional, look like nothing happened. There should be more contact on intentional fouls and even just reach in fouls.
-Some of the jump shots look pretty good. Fisher, Kobe, Pierce, Allen all look good.
-Wish they kept the size up moves. I feel like they add more to the game even if your technically not in control.
-I have seen some travels where my player will jump for a shot and just not release the ball, maybe I hit a wrong button or something.

The developers really set up the disappointment for this game. The way they talked about this game made it seem like once you played it you wouldn't want to play another basketball game because of the amount of control. Comparing this to the 'other' demo and even to Live 10 I feel like the controls aren't a big of a step forward, plus it came at the expense of the animations. I don't see why they couldn't have kept the Live 10 formula but add some of the control changes they have in Elite (shot stick, gather/Eurostep control). I can see the potential of what they did, it just doesn't pay off this year. It is clear that it will take another year or 2 for Elite to get to the elite level, unfortunately EA might not have that much time if the sales for the game plummet (which is likely since so many fans of Live 10 dislike this demo)

[fatleg3]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

i just switched to broadcast view and for some reason i have so much trouble with the controls and for the last few games it seems as if im back to square one. I cant not get past nobody at all

Its like every defender has turned into gary payton

And its so much junk on this thread im going to wait and until re post then ask my question again about the auto-strafe towards the basket and about turbo being patched in

[Eski33]

After playing the demo several times, the more I play the more I am liking it.

I will say the visuals could use some work in regards to the uniforms but the controls are excellent. One of my favorite elements is the free throw mechanic. You can miss a free throw on purpose to either direction, short or long because the controls give you that element.

I changed the camera to the broadcast view and I like it much better. Overall, the game is better than people are giving it credit for. However, it is hard to get used to not having that sprint button option. When I pump fake someone, there is a bit of a lag to get around the airborne defender.

[robbins]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

This game is AWFUL. I have always been an NBA Live fan and won't go to 2K11 but what I will definitely do is not buy this game and play NBA Live 10 for another year.

I hate the new controls and the old controls are NOT exactly like NBA Live 10. Half the time when trying to pass with the "A" button it throws up an alley oop. Never happened before.

The player movement is not fluid and actually way worse than NBA Live 10.

The clear choice this year is to either buy NBA 2K11 or keep playing NBA Live 10.

[RubenDouglas]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

Did you see my previous post? There is simply a delay on bringing up the icons.

The bumper plus face button combination works immediately. Your player passes as soon as you do it; You don't have to wait for the icons to show up.

Still, a very confusing thing to the general user. Most would think you have to wait. Very bad implementation and I would hope the final is not like this.

i'll try. maybe I'm too quick with my button presses. I wouldn't even wait sometimes and it still wouldnt be responsive to my input. My controller is brand new. New batteries as well.

The procedure is basically a quick double hold of LB+RB and then a faceup button? This alone is giving me fits.

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Here's two game segments, unedited, and without good o'l commentary.

This is maybe my 5th game, an hour or so of game time experience before this was recorded.

Be warned, this video, I was using the alternate control scheme, which appears to be broken/unresponsive. Pressing X after a quick pass should yield an instant shot attempt, but time after time, I was left with a delayed BUTTON response

N1
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Thoughts:
-CPU Bynum is a complete basketball reject. IQ of a wanna be NBAer
-CPU reaches in almost every single time for the steal. Glad to see the occasional defensive foul.. Even Jermaine O'neal will have a help side SWAT on a ball.
-2:20 mark CPU BYNUM again doesnt even care whats going on with the ball. He now all of a sudden wants to guard his man 18 feet out... I guess the initial drive was my fault as I was playing on ball D.
-3:58 Pierece dunk has no reaction from my CPU teammates
-4:30 all too familiar now... Wacky AI and animation
-5:00. Another CPU Bynum miscue. This dude will cost me every single game with that sort of play

Overall, commentary and atmosphere I can get behind. Decent effort. Everything else just seems so mediocre. Im not sure what to think.

Game 2
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Thoughts:
-1:20, Again Bynum does what he's doing best in Elite.
-3:00 Artest jumper had so much delay in the button presses with the Alternate control scheme. Shouldve happened more smoothly
-3:25 mark shows some RTP in action, I think. Garnett warps to a rebound, hitting Bynum. He stumbles. As gasol comes down, he hits Garnett forcing a bad shot.
-Right after that, Check out Paul Pierce. Is that momentum taking him away from the play. Artest with the coast to coast dunk
-3:50. User block... good? bad?
-The pass to Fisher was simply a normal alternate control "A" pass. The animation however looked more like a alley oop attempt.. Cost me the game

Bottomline: Is there any Signature play style for the CPU? It looks more like quick pass and shot. or an isolated type of drive. I saw one or two screens but as some are saying, it has a NCAA generic feel to it.

Through both vids, you may hear or see me using Kobe and the R stick dribbling controls to try and get some seperation on Ray Allen. Maybe that comes with time or the appropriate moves being used, but so far, it seems very blah to me

[Pared]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

RD, I don't think it is both bumpers. I think it is just LB+face buttons.

You can either wait until the icons come up or press one of the buttons immediately and they will make the pass.