Live '04: The Subtle Things...

**TheKing** · 10-23-2003, 02:03 PM

Re: Live \'04: The Subtle Things...

LOl i havent seen this traveling call yet

*turns on game*

**Da_Czar** · 10-23-2003, 02:53 PM

Re: Live \'04: The Subtle Things...

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jake44np said:
Ok ive got a cool one! Last night i am beating Orlando by 4 with a minute to go and t mac gets his 5th foul. after i hit my 2 fts i foul t mac on his shot and after he hits his 2 fts they take him out. So they foul me again and again i hit both and they bring him back in! They where doing they old offense, defense sub thing so he wouldnt pick up his 6th foul! very cool if you ask me!!

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Now that is awesome. simply awesome... i would have fallen out my chair to notice that.

**Da_Czar** · 10-23-2003, 02:53 PM

Re: Live \'04: The Subtle Things...

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jake44np said:
Ok ive got a cool one! Last night i am beating Orlando by 4 with a minute to go and t mac gets his 5th foul. after i hit my 2 fts i foul t mac on his shot and after he hits his 2 fts they take him out. So they foul me again and again i hit both and they bring him back in! They where doing they old offense, defense sub thing so he wouldnt pick up his 6th foul! very cool if you ask me!!

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Now that is awesome. simply awesome... i would have fallen out my chair to notice that.

**Da_Czar** · 10-23-2003, 02:53 PM

Re: Live \'04: The Subtle Things...

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
jake44np said:
Ok ive got a cool one! Last night i am beating Orlando by 4 with a minute to go and t mac gets his 5th foul. after i hit my 2 fts i foul t mac on his shot and after he hits his 2 fts they take him out. So they foul me again and again i hit both and they bring him back in! They where doing they old offense, defense sub thing so he wouldnt pick up his 6th foul! very cool if you ask me!!

<hr /></blockquote>

Now that is awesome. simply awesome... i would have fallen out my chair to notice that.

**IAHawksfan** · 10-23-2003, 03:24 PM

Re: Live \'04: The Subtle Things...

I am really enjoying this game a lot of it is because of the little things. Here are my thoughts:

- Post Game: Several things- you can no longer just dunk over people, you force up shots and sometimes they go in, sometimes you get called with a charge, or sometimes the contact forces a miss. This is awsome and very realistic. It's frusturating but "it's in the game"
- Fighting for position and through the lane. More than fighting for positon, I love how players fight through screens or set back screens. Players no longer morph through eachother, they run through the lane realistically.
- A very little thing, but I love how players clap after a foul is called or if there is a turnover, where the ball bounces out of bounds and the player claps. Awsome!
- The runner. I was playing with the wolves and I took Sam Cassell along the baseling and accidently hit square and he threw up a runner that looked exactly like something same would do.
- I've seen people complain about this, but the backing down by point guards, even after they cross half court isn't annoying, it's realistic. That's what point guards do, they protect the ball and often times they do that with their butt.
- Running backwords. This is the best backwords foot shuffiling animation I've ever seen in a videogame, the way they peddle backwords, the way their body moves, the hips etc. It's all very realistic.
- The over-the-shoulder type pass thing. This is something that players like Steve Nash and Troy Hudson do all the time in real life, they like toss the ball over their shoulder off their hip. This game has that animation.

I digress I can go on and on. This game isn't perfect, but it's pretty damn close and if you have sliders you can change to anyway you like. I love that it's hard as hell. Last year I would play a season on superstar and I would go 54-2 in a 56 game season. Once you figured out how to outlet the ball, run the lanes, and use freestyle the game turned into a track meet. With this game, teams that run, run, and teams that don't slow it down. And now you actually have to use an offensive set, find the open shot, not force shots,etc.
Overall I think it's a great game. I can't think of any real game play issues that I couldn't change if I wanted to with sliders. I haven't played through a dynasty to experience issues with the free agency thing, but everything else is great. Even the dynasty stuff that I have played is good.

**IAHawksfan** · 10-23-2003, 03:24 PM

Re: Live \'04: The Subtle Things...

I am really enjoying this game a lot of it is because of the little things. Here are my thoughts:

- Post Game: Several things- you can no longer just dunk over people, you force up shots and sometimes they go in, sometimes you get called with a charge, or sometimes the contact forces a miss. This is awsome and very realistic. It's frusturating but "it's in the game"
- Fighting for position and through the lane. More than fighting for positon, I love how players fight through screens or set back screens. Players no longer morph through eachother, they run through the lane realistically.
- A very little thing, but I love how players clap after a foul is called or if there is a turnover, where the ball bounces out of bounds and the player claps. Awsome!
- The runner. I was playing with the wolves and I took Sam Cassell along the baseling and accidently hit square and he threw up a runner that looked exactly like something same would do.
- I've seen people complain about this, but the backing down by point guards, even after they cross half court isn't annoying, it's realistic. That's what point guards do, they protect the ball and often times they do that with their butt.
- Running backwords. This is the best backwords foot shuffiling animation I've ever seen in a videogame, the way they peddle backwords, the way their body moves, the hips etc. It's all very realistic.
- The over-the-shoulder type pass thing. This is something that players like Steve Nash and Troy Hudson do all the time in real life, they like toss the ball over their shoulder off their hip. This game has that animation.

I digress I can go on and on. This game isn't perfect, but it's pretty damn close and if you have sliders you can change to anyway you like. I love that it's hard as hell. Last year I would play a season on superstar and I would go 54-2 in a 56 game season. Once you figured out how to outlet the ball, run the lanes, and use freestyle the game turned into a track meet. With this game, teams that run, run, and teams that don't slow it down. And now you actually have to use an offensive set, find the open shot, not force shots,etc.
Overall I think it's a great game. I can't think of any real game play issues that I couldn't change if I wanted to with sliders. I haven't played through a dynasty to experience issues with the free agency thing, but everything else is great. Even the dynasty stuff that I have played is good.

**IAHawksfan** · 10-23-2003, 03:24 PM

Re: Live \'04: The Subtle Things...

I am really enjoying this game a lot of it is because of the little things. Here are my thoughts:

- Post Game: Several things- you can no longer just dunk over people, you force up shots and sometimes they go in, sometimes you get called with a charge, or sometimes the contact forces a miss. This is awsome and very realistic. It's frusturating but "it's in the game"
- Fighting for position and through the lane. More than fighting for positon, I love how players fight through screens or set back screens. Players no longer morph through eachother, they run through the lane realistically.
- A very little thing, but I love how players clap after a foul is called or if there is a turnover, where the ball bounces out of bounds and the player claps. Awsome!
- The runner. I was playing with the wolves and I took Sam Cassell along the baseling and accidently hit square and he threw up a runner that looked exactly like something same would do.
- I've seen people complain about this, but the backing down by point guards, even after they cross half court isn't annoying, it's realistic. That's what point guards do, they protect the ball and often times they do that with their butt.
- Running backwords. This is the best backwords foot shuffiling animation I've ever seen in a videogame, the way they peddle backwords, the way their body moves, the hips etc. It's all very realistic.
- The over-the-shoulder type pass thing. This is something that players like Steve Nash and Troy Hudson do all the time in real life, they like toss the ball over their shoulder off their hip. This game has that animation.

I digress I can go on and on. This game isn't perfect, but it's pretty damn close and if you have sliders you can change to anyway you like. I love that it's hard as hell. Last year I would play a season on superstar and I would go 54-2 in a 56 game season. Once you figured out how to outlet the ball, run the lanes, and use freestyle the game turned into a track meet. With this game, teams that run, run, and teams that don't slow it down. And now you actually have to use an offensive set, find the open shot, not force shots,etc.
Overall I think it's a great game. I can't think of any real game play issues that I couldn't change if I wanted to with sliders. I haven't played through a dynasty to experience issues with the free agency thing, but everything else is great. Even the dynasty stuff that I have played is good.

**IAHawksfan** · 10-23-2003, 03:30 PM

Re: Live \'04: The Subtle Things...

One more thing I forgot but is really cool is when you hit intential foul button, it no longer just chases the player down trying to hack him, it actually fouls them like in real life, with the player bending over the ball and the defensive player wrapping them up. Also along those lines I like that if the CPU is beating you in the last 2 minutes of the game they go to a spread offense to keep the ball away and not let you get back into the game.

**IAHawksfan** · 10-23-2003, 03:30 PM

Re: Live \'04: The Subtle Things...

One more thing I forgot but is really cool is when you hit intential foul button, it no longer just chases the player down trying to hack him, it actually fouls them like in real life, with the player bending over the ball and the defensive player wrapping them up. Also along those lines I like that if the CPU is beating you in the last 2 minutes of the game they go to a spread offense to keep the ball away and not let you get back into the game.

**IAHawksfan** · 10-23-2003, 03:30 PM

Re: Live \'04: The Subtle Things...

One more thing I forgot but is really cool is when you hit intential foul button, it no longer just chases the player down trying to hack him, it actually fouls them like in real life, with the player bending over the ball and the defensive player wrapping them up. Also along those lines I like that if the CPU is beating you in the last 2 minutes of the game they go to a spread offense to keep the ball away and not let you get back into the game.

**IAHawksfan** · 10-23-2003, 03:42 PM

Re: Live \'04: The Subtle Things...

Sorry to post yet again, but after reading through everyone's list gets me thinking.

I like how sometimes the ball handler will put the ball over their heads while they scan the court.

Second thing about the commentary...after playing NCAA religiously, then MAdden and ESPN, I think this is really good. I haven't played ESPN basketball but the football game's commentary was great. So was NCAA with Kirk, Lee Corso, and Brad Nessler. Especially if you watch a game where Kirk and Lee are commenting after playing the game you're thinking "Lee says that all the time in the game."
Well anyway, I don't feel that the commentary by Marv and the Fratello is bad at all. It sounds realistic and they don't repeat things and it sounds like they're talking about the game at hand. Very cool, doesn't sound scripted and flows really well togther. Just another cool thing.

**IAHawksfan** · 10-23-2003, 03:42 PM

Re: Live \'04: The Subtle Things...

Sorry to post yet again, but after reading through everyone's list gets me thinking.

I like how sometimes the ball handler will put the ball over their heads while they scan the court.

Second thing about the commentary...after playing NCAA religiously, then MAdden and ESPN, I think this is really good. I haven't played ESPN basketball but the football game's commentary was great. So was NCAA with Kirk, Lee Corso, and Brad Nessler. Especially if you watch a game where Kirk and Lee are commenting after playing the game you're thinking "Lee says that all the time in the game."
Well anyway, I don't feel that the commentary by Marv and the Fratello is bad at all. It sounds realistic and they don't repeat things and it sounds like they're talking about the game at hand. Very cool, doesn't sound scripted and flows really well togther. Just another cool thing.

**IAHawksfan** · 10-23-2003, 03:42 PM

Re: Live \'04: The Subtle Things...

Sorry to post yet again, but after reading through everyone's list gets me thinking.

I like how sometimes the ball handler will put the ball over their heads while they scan the court.

Second thing about the commentary...after playing NCAA religiously, then MAdden and ESPN, I think this is really good. I haven't played ESPN basketball but the football game's commentary was great. So was NCAA with Kirk, Lee Corso, and Brad Nessler. Especially if you watch a game where Kirk and Lee are commenting after playing the game you're thinking "Lee says that all the time in the game."
Well anyway, I don't feel that the commentary by Marv and the Fratello is bad at all. It sounds realistic and they don't repeat things and it sounds like they're talking about the game at hand. Very cool, doesn't sound scripted and flows really well togther. Just another cool thing.

**CubsIn2003** · 10-23-2003, 03:56 PM

Re: Live \'04: The Subtle Things...

I'm a huge Pacers fan and cant believe how perfect they captured Reggie running backwards down court after ripping a 3.

Live is the most complete and realistic sports game since NCAA Football 04. It captures almost all of the NBA game.

My ONLY complaint: that point guards dont come back to get the ball from a big man on a defensive rebound - unless I just havent figured it out yet?

**CubsIn2003** · 10-23-2003, 03:56 PM

Re: Live \'04: The Subtle Things...

I'm a huge Pacers fan and cant believe how perfect they captured Reggie running backwards down court after ripping a 3.

Live is the most complete and realistic sports game since NCAA Football 04. It captures almost all of the NBA game.

My ONLY complaint: that point guards dont come back to get the ball from a big man on a defensive rebound - unless I just havent figured it out yet?

Live '04: The Subtle Things...

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