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  • Behindshadows
    CEO - BSG Network
    • Nov 2004
    • 8055

    #16
    Re: Video Response to Live 13 Video vs. Live 10

    Originally posted by Thunder Storm
    I respectfully disagree with your sentiments on NBA Live 10 not being cartoonish and arcadey. Although for what its worth, Live 10 was a better basketball game than 2K10.

    As 2k10 nailed the visual aspect (ever since 2k7, 2k has been the king in visuals) but completely failed with the gameplay. 2k10 was basically a game of who can score the most paint points in 20 minutes.
    Really?







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    • KyotoCarl
      MVP
      • Mar 2010
      • 3827

      #17
      Re: Video Response to Live 13 Video vs. Live 10

      Originally posted by iClutch
      Years ago, I bet EA was OS' baby, but what have you done for me recently? The community, or erm, the newer members (like myself) dislike EA. And that's the majority. I am biased because I prefer Live 10 to 2K10/11, but that was just me. I switched to 2K on 11. I appreciate your insight. And no, Live 13 looks better then Elite, I'm not trying to be rude, but that's blasphemous. Elite looked like like the jerseys had a shade of black in them.
      I can't agree with you there. You posted a nice video though and you had some interesting thoughts, even though I don't agree with everything you said.

      It's hard for people here, or anywhere, to be positive about EA's basketball series if you look at what they've done to it over the last 4-5 years. Alot of members on this site have played bball games for over 20 years and aren't really biased but just want the best basketball video game experience they can find.

      I myself have played every NBA Live since Live 95 up until 2007 when I felt basketball games should've progressed much further then they had at that point. When I got back into bball games, in 2010, i had Live 09 and 2K9 to try and I just found that 2K had more of the things I've wanted to see in a bball game than EA had. After that I've gotten both games each year and been dissappointed by EA each year while 2K have gotten better every year.

      That's my opinion. I'm sad to see what EA have done with basketball games in the last 4-5 years. With the whole Elite fiasco it reached a new level and then seeing this today just got me bit sad. Live 10 does look better than the video we got today but I still think 10 looks way too cartoony, both in the overall graphics and animations.

      I want two really good basketball games on the market and I want them to compete with eachother each year and make better and better games.
      What we know so far about NBA 2K14 - FAQ/QA:
      http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2045267769

      My thoughts on how replays should be handled:
      http://www.operationsports.com/Kyoto...plays-replays/

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      • 23
        yellow
        • Sep 2002
        • 66469

        #18
        Re: Video Response to Live 13 Video vs. Live 10

        Originally posted by iClutch
        Years ago, I bet EA was OS' baby, but what have you done for me recently? The community, or erm, the newer members (like myself) dislike EA. And that's the majority. I am biased because I prefer Live 10 to 2K10/11, but that was just me. I switched to 2K on 11. I appreciate your insight. And no, Live 13 looks better then Elite, I'm not trying to be rude, but that's blasphemous. Elite looked like like the jerseys had a shade of black in them.
        You shouldn't assume anything especially about this site because you're way off base here more than you can realize.

        I agree 2k10 had major issues but mike Wang was the dude who got live 10 to the stage it was at.......

        I saw nothing in 13 that live 10 didn't have and more of it

        Why people are blaming the fans for calling out what it one of the most pathetic downgrades of a series ever is beyond me

        Look at this game and tell me what improvements have you seen since then?

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        • iClutch
          Rookie
          • Jul 2012
          • 83

          #19
          Re: Video Response to Live 13 Video vs. Live 10

          Originally posted by KyotoCarl
          I can't agree with you there. You posted a nice video though and you had some interesting thoughts, even though I don't agree with everything you said.

          It's hard for people here, or anywhere, to be positive about EA's basketball series if you look at what they've done to it over the last 4-5 years. Alot of members on this site have played bball games for over 20 years and aren't really biased but just want the best basketball video game experience they can find.

          I myself have played every NBA Live since Live 95 up until 2007 when I felt basketball games should've progressed much further then they had at that point. When I got back into bball games, in 2010, i had Live 09 and 2K9 to try and I just found that 2K had more of the things I've wanted to see in a bball game than EA had. After that I've gotten both games each year and been dissappointed by EA each year while 2K have gotten better every year.

          That's my opinion. I'm sad to see what EA have done with basketball games in the last 4-5 years. With the whole Elite fiasco it reached a new level and then seeing this today just got me bit sad. Live 10 does look better than the video we got today but I still think 10 looks way too cartoony, both in the overall graphics and animations.

          I want two really good basketball games on the market and I want them to compete with eachother each year and make better and better games.
          I can respect that. I just love EA basketball. The controls always seemed to fit my style and I enjoyed that. EA is what it is, I can't sugar coat it, Elite was utter ***. I expressed in my video how Elite frustrated me to the point my head nearly exploded!

          I to am a fan of just basketball games in general. Do I prefer EA? Yes. If 2K13 is so incredibly better then Live 13, then I'll get it. I will most likely purchase both anyways. NBA 2K10 was just awful, so I get you. We all have bias, my bias is EA.

          Go Basketball!

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          • iClutch
            Rookie
            • Jul 2012
            • 83

            #20
            Re: Video Response to Live 13 Video vs. Live 10

            Originally posted by 23
            You shouldn't assume anything especially about this site because you're way off base here more than you can realize.

            I agree 2k10 had major issues but mike Wang was the dude who got live 10 to the stage it was at.......

            I saw nothing in 13 that live 10 didn't have and more of it

            Why people are blaming the fans for calling out what it one of the most pathetic downgrades of a series ever is beyond me

            Look at this game and tell me what improvements have you seen since then?

            Jeff Van Gundy and Mike Breen seemed to be more alert in commentary. And Player Faces look a bit better

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            • Thunder Storm
              Rookie
              • Dec 2010
              • 480

              #21
              Re: Video Response to Live 13 Video vs. Live 10

              Originally posted by Behindshadows
              Really?







              You're really just proving my point with those pics ...

              but I understand that Live fans have a different idea on what realistic graphics look like.

              Here is what I prefer :

              notice that the players complexion are not glossy like a toy.
              2K teams : Rockets,Thunder
              222-34 online

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              • iClutch
                Rookie
                • Jul 2012
                • 83

                #22
                Re: Video Response to Live 13 Video vs. Live 10

                2K's graphics are weird. Steve Nash looks like himself in Live, but in 2K? In 2K he looks like a transexual.

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                • Thunder Storm
                  Rookie
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 480

                  #23
                  Re: Video Response to Live 13 Video vs. Live 10

                  Originally posted by iClutch
                  2K's graphics are weird. Steve Nash looks like himself in Live, but in 2K? In 2K he looks like a transexual.
                  this is 2k Nash ...

                  You're sounding more and more like the stereotypical Live fan. You have an alternate sense of reality. Do you really believe 2K botched Nash or do you force yourself to believe that ?
                  2K teams : Rockets,Thunder
                  222-34 online

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                  • KyotoCarl
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 3827

                    #24
                    Re: Video Response to Live 13 Video vs. Live 10

                    Originally posted by iClutch
                    I can respect that. I just love EA basketball. The controls always seemed to fit my style and I enjoyed that. EA is what it is, I can't sugar coat it, Elite was utter ***. I expressed in my video how Elite frustrated me to the point my head nearly exploded!

                    I to am a fan of just basketball games in general. Do I prefer EA? Yes. If 2K13 is so incredibly better then Live 13, then I'll get it. I will most likely purchase both anyways. NBA 2K10 was just awful, so I get you. We all have bias, my bias is EA.

                    Go Basketball!
                    I totally respect that. We all have our own playstyle and what we enjoy. I'm looking for the best basketball game out there. If EA would make a better game than 2K I'd like that game more. I will probably keep getting both games each year, if they get reviews that deserve it. I wouldn't buy either 2K nor EA's game if they had rating of 3 out of 10 or something like that cause then I'd just be throwing my money away. Good solid games should be rewarded, by giving them your money. But if someone tries to sell you a brick with an EA or 2K or whatever logo on it I'm not giving them any money at all.

                    Originally posted by iClutch
                    2K's graphics are weird. Steve Nash looks like himself in Live, but in 2K? In 2K he looks like a transexual.
                    Not that there's anything wrong with that...
                    What we know so far about NBA 2K14 - FAQ/QA:
                    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2045267769

                    My thoughts on how replays should be handled:
                    http://www.operationsports.com/Kyoto...plays-replays/

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                    • iClutch
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 83

                      #25
                      Re: Video Response to Live 13 Video vs. Live 10

                      Originally posted by Thunder Storm
                      this is 2k Nash ...

                      You're sounding more and more like the stereotypical Live fan. You have an alternate sense of reality. Do you really believe 2K botched Nash or do you force yourself to believe that ?
                      That photo you just posted is a 2K12 cyberface smh. That's a mod.

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                      • Thunder Storm
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 480

                        #26
                        Re: Video Response to Live 13 Video vs. Live 10

                        Originally posted by iClutch
                        That photo you just posted is a 2K12 cyberface smh. That's a mod.
                        Yeah you're right, I'm looking for a default Nash but I can't find one online.

                        I might have to snap one off my PS3 and upload it.
                        2K teams : Rockets,Thunder
                        222-34 online

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                        • 23
                          yellow
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 66469

                          #27
                          Re: Video Response to Live 13 Video vs. Live 10

                          Originally posted by iClutch
                          [/B]Jeff Van Gundy and Mike Breen seemed to be more alert in commentary. And Player Faces look a bit better
                          In other words nothing at all.

                          That commentary s as robotic as the player movement and graphics don't look better IMO

                          I dont see it sorry.........


                          Sadly game play has taken a step backwards even more also from the looks of it....this game is toast

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                          • iClutch
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 83

                            #28
                            Re: Video Response to Live 13 Video vs. Live 10

                            Originally posted by 23
                            In other words nothing at all.

                            That commentary s as robotic as the player movement and graphics don't look better IMO

                            I dont see it sorry.........


                            Sadly game play has taken a step backwards even more also from the looks of it....this game is toast
                            I don't get you, man. My opinions are my opinions. Will you change them? Probably not. I thought those two things were improvements.

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                            • Blue
                              On the road again
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 838

                              #29
                              Re: Video Response to Live 13 Video vs. Live 10

                              Originally posted by Thunder Storm
                              Yeah you're right, I'm looking for a default Nash but I can't find one online.

                              I might have to snap one off my PS3 and upload it.
                              Best one I could find
                              Native Georgian. Adopted Texan.

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                              • Behindshadows
                                CEO - BSG Network
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 8055

                                #30
                                Re: Video Response to Live 13 Video vs. Live 10

                                Originally posted by Thunder Storm
                                You're really just proving my point with those pics ...

                                but I understand that Live fans have a different idea on what realistic graphics look like.

                                Here is what I prefer :

                                notice that the players complexion are not glossy like a toy.
                                First off the Lebron and Rose are modded versions we are talking about consoles...You forget I'm a big part of the PC mod community...don't use them fake shots...

                                This is D. Rose and Lebron on 360



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