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  • The 24th Letter
    ERA
    • Oct 2007
    • 39373

    #1471
    Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

    Originally posted by WTF
    . With that said, have you played anymore since the "patch"? Any additional thoughts/impressions on it?

    It feels to me like the paint contact has been tweaked for the better, and the dunks have been toned down as well, causing more misses.

    Definitely! Posted about it in the patch thread...have to say I am pleased with the tweaks I saw immediately...I will have to get a few more games in, but I could see a difference in the 1 game I played...

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    • Walt Frazier
      Pro
      • Jan 2014
      • 989

      #1472
      Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

      Originally posted by The 24th Letter
      The fact that guys are having "so much fun" , "played the best game I've played in video game history" have been WELL documented as well....I don't see anything wrong with continuing to point out issues that we see....

      The disconnects in UT, late game A.I have major impacts on user experience...not to mention many of the gameplay mechanics that need work....I think Wiz has a fair point...me personally, I don't care to change anyone's mind about anything...but I do feel like if it weren't for a few posters here being forthright, the devs wouldn't even think the game need a patch

      HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!!


      I have only had four or five games go down to the wire where the cpu has been behind and all of them were completely ruined by the cpu dribbling the clock out. Videos are all over youtube, yet one user here apparently has never seen it so it is somehow alright.


      This thread is littered with "I just downloaded the latest title update, I only played three minutes but I am sure I saw new animations and the cpu act more aggressively" or "I only played a quarter, but the cpu took 4 three pointers, so the update has increased their ball movement for sure" type preaching. Absolutely ridiculous stuff. I played Miami a few weeks ago and LeBron scored 47 yet now, after a title update a poster here played Miami and said LeBron is more aggressive. That stuff is just normal game to game stuff. It was there already. PLACEBO here is out of control.


      Nothing to do with title updates. If the developers do read these things, I hope they see the late game AI and all the bugs and fix those. There's only four cameras and two don't work. Start there. Blocks need massive toning down also. So far there's been about ten updates yet two of my four camera options still don't work and the cpu still doesn't call time outs. Fix those things EA!!!

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      • Walt Frazier
        Pro
        • Jan 2014
        • 989

        #1473
        Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

        Oh,and now someone says rosters are fine. Yet three season ending injured players still start in the game.

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        • WTF
          MVP
          • Aug 2002
          • 20274

          #1474
          Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

          Originally posted by Walt Frazier
          HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!!


          I have only had four or five games go down to the wire where the cpu has been behind and all of them were completely ruined by the cpu dribbling the clock out. Videos are all over youtube, yet one user here apparently has never seen it so it is somehow alright.


          This thread is littered with "I just downloaded the latest title update, I only played three minutes but I am sure I saw new animations and the cpu act more aggressively" or "I only played a quarter, but the cpu took 4 three pointers, so the update has increased their ball movement for sure" type preaching. Absolutely ridiculous stuff. I played Miami a few weeks ago and LeBron scored 47 yet now, after a title update a poster here played Miami and said LeBron is more aggressive. That stuff is just normal game to game stuff. It was there already. PLACEBO here is out of control.


          Nothing to do with title updates. If the developers do read these things, I hope they see the late game AI and all the bugs and fix those. There's only four cameras and two don't work. Start there. Blocks need massive toning down also. So far there's been about ten updates yet two of my four camera options still don't work and the cpu still doesn't call time outs. Fix those things EA!!!
          You can mention me, this will be the last time I address you. If you aren't sitting in my man cave with me when I play this game, you have no clue what I'm seeing and what I'm not seeing. I have posted a LOT of videos showing the ends of my games. Like I said, if I saw the late game AI mess, then I'd stop playing, it's as simple as that. I don't have time to play a full game, only to have it ruined at the end.

          The dev team is more than aware of the issues that you guys are having. I personally compiled a list of items that OS is having with the game and forwarded it onward.
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          • WTF
            MVP
            • Aug 2002
            • 20274

            #1475
            Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

            Originally posted by Walt Frazier
            Oh,and now someone says rosters are fine. Yet three season ending injured players still start in the game.

            Yes, Deron is day to day, but still in the lineup. Lopez is not. Deron supposedly back on MLK day:


            CP3 not in lineup, lineup seems accurate.

            Rose is out, lineup seems accurate otherwise.

            Bledsoe is out, seems accurate.

            Last I checked, this is the right LAL lineup.

            All taken just a few seconds ago.
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            • The 24th Letter
              ERA
              • Oct 2007
              • 39373

              #1476
              NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

              Just FYI: as far as the Nuggets go, Gallo hasn't played a minute this season with a torn ACL

              Granger still in the Pacers starting line up, Holiday starting for the Pelicans....I am not sure how they are doing on missing players etc.

              Accessories are still off for most teams...

              Not a huge deal (to me)....but I have to hold them to their daily/hour after the game promises...
              Last edited by The 24th Letter; 01-19-2014, 01:52 PM.

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              • WTF
                MVP
                • Aug 2002
                • 20274

                #1477
                Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                Yeah, I don't pay much attention to the Nuggets. Hadn't heard anyone bring him up. Normally it's Kobe and Rose. I'll pass along as well.
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                • El_Poopador
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 2624

                  #1478
                  Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                  a few rosters at least are still out of date. the cavs have waiters starting at the 2 instead of miles. and dellavadova isnt even on the roster.

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                  • nick_sr
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 1934

                    #1479
                    Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                    salmons still starting for my raptors over ross smh
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                    • SageInfinite
                      Stop The GOAT Talk
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 11896

                      #1480
                      Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                      Originally posted by Pared
                      I read it as it does the basics of basketball well and is lacking in the more advanced areas of the sport. Aside from the bugs and other documented things it is lacking in like graphics, animations, personality, authenticity, etc., I would say the game is fundamentally sound. The basics of NBA basketball are there.
                      Appreciate your answer Pared. I mean by these standards hasn't almost every NBA game that has come out been "fundamentally sound"? lol. My man said it's more fundamentally sound than the competition. I'm just trying to figure out what this game does that is more fundamental than the past and the competition. I don't want to start a comparison thread, but what does the competition do that is less fundamental? What does that mean for me as a gamer?

                      Honestly besides the team shot percentages(which I do appreciate in Live) the differences in these 2 games are the things you mentioned, lol. Why would I want to play a game that has less personality, worse animations, less authenticity, & worse graphics? Seems like alot of people are flocking to this game simply because it's not the competition. Which is totally fine, but the broad statements I've seen try to make it seem like it's more to this game than it being simply a change of pace and a different game.
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                      • drew_3
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 250

                        #1481
                        Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                        Spacing for me is the big fundamental that this game does better, the other thing would be the pace of the game.....It's why I can't go back to the "competition" anymore

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                        • El_Poopador
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 2624

                          #1482
                          Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                          Originally posted by SageInfinite
                          Appreciate your answer Pared. I mean by these standards hasn't almost every NBA game that has come out been "fundamentally sound"? lol. My man said it's more fundamentally sound than the competition. I'm just trying to figure out what this game does that is more fundamental than the past and the competition. I don't want to start a comparison thread, but what does the competition do that is less fundamental? What does that mean for me as a gamer?

                          Honestly besides the team shot percentages(which I do appreciate in Live) the differences in these 2 games are the things you mentioned, lol. Why would I want to play a game that has less personality, worse animations, less authenticity, & worse graphics? Seems like alot of people are flocking to this game simply because it's not the competition. Which is totally fine, but the broad statements I've seen try to make it seem like it's more to this game than it being simply a change of pace and a different game.
                          tbh i would say the authenticity is very much in this game. as far as the fundamentals go: spacing is great in this game and it does it much better than any other bball game i have played. for the most part the cpu plays very smart when it comes to rotations as well. yes there are definitely areas where it needs work (like the double team logic jyoung posted in another thread) but the players move intelligently for the most part. while there arent a lot of fast breaks when you do get one you can run it well because the cpu teammates fill the lanes correctly and the defenders dont have the ability to cover three players at once.

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                          • Rewmac
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 237

                            #1483
                            Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                            Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                            Definitely! Posted about it in the patch thread...have to say I am pleased with the tweaks I saw immediately...I will have to get a few more games in, but I could see a difference in the 1 game I played...
                            I've been looking for that thread. Can you link me my phone is being an idiot now.
                            "I'll tell you there is still a little Vinsanity left in Vince"

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                            • Pared
                              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 39337

                              #1484
                              Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                              Originally posted by SageInfinite
                              Appreciate your answer Pared. I mean by these standards hasn't almost every NBA game that has come out been "fundamentally sound"? lol. My man said it's more fundamentally sound than the competition. I'm just trying to figure out what this game does that is more fundamental than the past and the competition. I don't want to start a comparison thread, but what does the competition do that is less fundamental? What does that mean for me as a gamer?

                              Honestly besides the team shot percentages(which I do appreciate in Live) the differences in these 2 games are the things you mentioned, lol. Why would I want to play a game that has less personality, worse animations, less authenticity, & worse graphics? Seems like alot of people are flocking to this game simply because it's not the competition. Which is totally fine, but the broad statements I've seen try to make it seem like it's more to this game than it being simply a change of pace and a different game.
                              Hopefully we can keep this discussion mature. If not, I'll have to stop everyone.

                              I don't want to answer for que, but I agree with you to a point. I think there are issues in games that typically kill much of the experience for some, specifically teammate AI. while I don't want to start comparing the two (and I'll probably regret bringing this up) there are issues with 2k14's defensive rotations, the way players don't know when to use turbo or get in a defensive stance. These things, since they aren't in the player's control frustrate people and I don't see those SPECIFIC issues here. Players generally stay on their man and rotate properly. They do a good job not crowding certain sides of the court. And there are others...

                              I liken it to baseball games though. The one on one is a huge part of a basketball game, much like the batter pitcher interface. You're always in control of one guy and going against one defender. This area, whether it is facing up, in the post, etc. needs to be deep to me. Can jab step left? Right? Fake spin? Launch? Quick step back into a pull up? Double fake? All of this is huge for me. I've spent two-three community days telling EA this and the controls were never fleshed out to the depth I detailed. Until I start seeing deeper controls the game just seems shallow. If you can overlook this and want simple X's and O's the game seems to be doing that with very minor warts. I believe that is the draw and the "fundamentals" guys will point to. But you're right - you can have a fundamentally sound game but we've had that in previous years. Unless Live and ID now all of a sudden were not of the like...
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                              • SageInfinite
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                                • Jul 2002
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                                #1485
                                Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                                Appreciate you guys responding. Just trying to get a grip on the appeal of this game. I can't personally remember a sports game(or any game in my recent memory), having such a turn around. Especially on a pretty hardcore site like OS is or was.
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