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  • The 24th Letter
    ERA
    • Oct 2007
    • 39373

    #106
    Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

    Originally posted by Earl1963
    What I don't understand is, why are 2K fans in a Live forum complaining about the graphics of a hoop game that Live fans are happy with?

    Stop throwing blanket statements like this out there and running away when people address them...it's silly...

    again, this has nothing to do with 2k...

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    • Pared
      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
      • Feb 2003
      • 39337

      #107
      Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

      Originally posted by Earl1963
      What I don't understand is, why are 2K fans in a Live forum complaining about the graphics of a hoop game that Live fans are happy with?
      What happened to "what's wrong with gamers today?" Why are you so concerned if you don't care?

      And for the record - long time posters are here discussing the game. If you want to label certain people like you are, keep it off the forum.

      Originally posted by WTF
      I'm not the one telling people to stop bringing 2k in, others are. If it's a valid comparison, then it's fine. We're talking graphics. One takes one approach, one takes another. I prefer one over the other. I'm not talking gameplay.

      Regardless, enjoy whatever style you want. No need to downplay others opinion on what they themselves like.
      So let's just end the discussion because others disagree, essentially. This is why we can't discuss anything here.
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      • Earl1963
        MVP
        • Aug 2003
        • 1985

        #108
        Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

        Like the original poster said, the graphics ain't that bad.
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        • King_B_Mack
          All Star
          • Jan 2009
          • 24450

          #109
          Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

          Originally posted by King_B_Mack
          Exactly why are people "hung up on how the game looks?" It's a damn thread discussing the graphics of the game. What should we be talking about? Gameplay? I hate when people do this stupid ****.
          Originally posted by Earl1963
          Like the original poster said, the graphics ain't that bad.
          Still waiting on an answer, btw.

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          • HOLLIDAY1183
            Rookie
            • Oct 2008
            • 459

            #110
            Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

            I wonder what EA themselves would say about this so-called "art direction" some are assuming is an intentional departure from attempting to have their game look actually real. Someone should tweet or PM Scott O'Gallagher or Sean O'Brien and ask them if this is in fact "their take" on the sport or if they actually think this is "photorealistic" because, I think we'd be surprised.

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            • DreamAgain
              Rookie
              • Oct 2008
              • 403

              #111
              Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

              Originally posted by WTF
              I'm not arguing that it looks close to a real picture. EA has NEVER went the route of photorealism. I would venture to say that even next year, with a crazy graphical improvement, they won't go to the "photorealism" style.

              I'm saying I think that it looks excellent for their style. I'd prefer that style, rather than going the photorealism route. It's a videogame, I want it to look like an awesome videogame. I know that you all aren't on that side of the spectrum, but I am.



              And if having an opinion is wrong, then this may not be the right site for me to be on anymore. There used to be a time where guys could have differing opinions, and right, wrong, or indifferent, we'd still respect it.
              Forget the art style for a second here, games can have cool art styles and still be visually amazing like Borderlands or what have you but let's talk about the ANIMATIONS. Do you not count those as part of the overall graphical package? If you do.. Live 14 looks pretty much like garbage. There are SO many awkward animations that don't look like they belong anywhere near a basketball game. Then we have other horrible presentation problems like for example I sub my players out and the guys on the court transform in to the bench uniforms then teleport over there like wtf?

              Even if their artistic style is to not go for photorealism (which is dumb in a basketball game.. i can respect the choice in a sci-fi game or something) it doesn't matter because graphically, the biggest problem for me is everything else. The bad animations, the lack of contact animations, etc. It all looks like a game from 2008. Oh and you can't even play on the baseline camera because of serious framerate drops..

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              • DreamAgain
                Rookie
                • Oct 2008
                • 403

                #112
                Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

                Originally posted by Earl1963
                What I don't understand is, why are 2K fans in a Live forum complaining about the graphics of a hoop game that Live fans are happy with?
                because *gasp* maybe some of us own both games?

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                • DreamAgain
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 403

                  #113
                  Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

                  Originally posted by WTF
                  I'm not the one telling people to stop bringing 2k in, others are. If it's a valid comparison, then it's fine. We're talking graphics. One takes one approach, one takes another. I prefer one over the other. I'm not talking gameplay.

                  Regardless, enjoy whatever style you want. No need to downplay others opinion on what they themselves like.
                  If you are actually going to sit here and tell me that Live looks better than 2k I'm just going to assume you are employed under EA to promote the game. There's no way any logical human being can come to that conclusion.

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                  • WTF
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 20274

                    #114
                    Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

                    Perhaps you should learn to respect others opinions. Like I stated earlier, you don't have to agree with me, but I would suggest that you respect other's opinion. I've stated my personal opinion.

                    I'm not sitting here telling YOU that Live looks better than 2k to YOU. I don't have the authority to tell someone to change their mind/opinion, much like you don't.

                    Again, I'm not attempting to persuade anyone. I'm stating my PERSONAL opinion on a videogame.

                    With that said, this will be my last post on the subject, as I personally (there's that word again) couldn't care less at this point what you all prefer. I just chimed in to state my opinion.
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                    • DIRK41NOWITZKI
                      Pro
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 956

                      #115
                      Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

                      Originally posted by DreamAgain
                      If you are actually going to sit here and tell me that Live looks better than 2k I'm just going to assume you are employed under EA to promote the game. There's no way any logical human being can come to that conclusion.
                      I can't speak for WTF but I believe he is saying he prefers one over the other, not that Live is better than 2K.


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                      • JBulls
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 495

                        #116
                        Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

                        Originally posted by Pared
                        You should not have any idea what I'm talking about if you "just joined" last year.
                        never said I did.

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                        • erickonasis
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 3016

                          #117
                          Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

                          Art direction?


                          you gotta be kidding me
                          SLIDERS SUCK

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                          • btrapp
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 242

                            #118
                            Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

                            This is a very interesting thread. I didn't know "butt-ugly" was actually an "art direction". If that's the case, then live nailed it. Good job ea!!!!

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                            • King_B_Mack
                              All Star
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 24450

                              #119
                              Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

                              Originally posted by HOLLIDAY1183
                              I wonder what EA themselves would say about this so-called "art direction" some are assuming is an intentional departure from attempting to have their game look actually real. Someone should tweet or PM Scott O'Gallagher or Sean O'Brien and ask them if this is in fact "their take" on the sport or if they actually think this is "photorealistic" because, I think we'd be surprised.

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                              Well they are on record as saying they sacrificed graphics for gameplay. I think they know what it looks like.

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                              • JazzMan
                                SOLDIER, First Class...
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 13547

                                #120
                                Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

                                Personally, I think the graphics are terrible. To me, Live 14 looks like it released on the 360 in 2010. I think the Live 10 comparisons say it all, really.

                                If your simulation basketball game that you released in 2009 can compete graphically with the simulation basketball game that you just released in 2013 on Next-Gen consoles, you have a problem. And it's not like NBA Live 10 blew people away graphically at the time, either.
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