NLSC Post-Patch Interview with NBA Live 14 Gameplay Designer Scott O'Gallagher

[NoTiCe_O]

Re: NLSC Post-Patch Interview with NBA Live 14 Gameplay Designer Scott O'Gallagher

I've given them breaks, I enjoy the game to a certain extent. I've learned the controls and have no issues winning games on all-star. That being said, I'm sorry, but it's ridiculous. They don't seem to highlight any of the legitimate concerns, just applaud an update that had some fixes that were good but left some easy fixes out. I agree and that's why I said, they have my money for Live 15, however, if they screw it up, they've lost me and I'm sure many others.

Well they added an entire mode. Just because of feedback, if anything that at least deserves some praise. Not only a mode, but a mode that will help people play better.. "for free". Try asking any other game to patch in a new mode and it will probably come with a $4.99 or more dollar proce tag.

There is dedication coming from the team over at Live but it seems people are ignoring that part. That's all I'm saying. Not trying to belittle your post or anything but they do deserve some if not all the praise they've been getting and the hate is unnecessary.

wait. I'm supposed to pat them on the back for getting patches out for things that should have been in the 1st place?


that's like going to a gourmet burger place and ordering a medium burger on a toasted bun.
if I receive a well done burger but the bun is toasted nice. am I supposed to congratulate the chef on the toasted bun?

If you ask me its the same situation.. you order the burger with the toasted bun. You get it, everything is not excellent but it's edible, but just because you weren't fully satisfied the chef says hey here's a free steak just for you even eating here. Yet people are still complaining about the burger being ok.

All these patch updates wouldn't bode nearly as well if there wasn't a place for gamers to actually practice what they're trying to patch, and they've managed to provide that at no cost.

That's something praiseworthy if you ask me. It might be bare bones but it's there. From everything I've seen it's much needed, I still haven't seen anyone rightfully utilize the bouncetek packages on a pick and roll or anything yet. (Consistently.)

Most of the community and myself will not give them any excuses anymore. At some point you have to wake up from the Matrix and realize when something is not up to par and Live 14 is not up to par. The game is outdated and there are more misses then hits in the game.

It's not really giving them an excuse but rather congratulating them for what they are doing right instead of beating them down for the things they haven't done right.. yet. It's obvious they want to solve every problem but there are priorities that come first. The fact that there's a patch of this magnitude alone is a cause for some praise.

I really can't remember any game that's added any new mode like this at no cost. I've seen modes added, but not really at the request of the community and not so conveniently and seemlessly.

I think it speaks volumes for where the game is heading going forward, and the dedication that they are showing thus far can only mean good things for Live 15 and so on.

But that's just me, I never been one to hate. I give props where it's due. I don't know.

[King_B_Mack]

Re: NLSC Post-Patch Interview with NBA Live 14 Gameplay Designer Scott O'Gallagher

Well they added an entire mode. Just because of feedback, if anything that at least deserves some praise. Not only a mode, but a mode that will help people play better.. "for free". Try asking any other game to patch in a new mode and it will probably come with a $4.99 or more dollar proce tag.

There is dedication coming from the team over at Live but it seems people are ignoring that part. That's all I'm saying. Not trying to belittle your post or anything but they do deserve some if not all the praise they've been getting and the hate is unnecessary.



If you ask me its the same situation.. you order the burger with the toasted bun. You get it, everything is not excellent but it's edible, but just because you weren't fully satisfied the chef says hey here's a free steak just for you even eating here. Yet people are still complaining about the burger being ok.

All these patch updates wouldn't bode nearly as well if there wasn't a place for gamers to actually practice what they're trying to patch, and they've managed to provide that at no cost.

That's something praiseworthy if you ask me. It might be bare bones but it's there. From everything I've seen it's much needed, I still haven't seen anyone rightfully utilize the bouncetek packages on a pick and roll or anything yet. (Consistently.)



It's not really giving them an excuse but rather congratulating them for what they are doing right instead of beating them down for the things they haven't done right.. yet. It's obvious they want to solve every problem but there are priorities that come first. The fact that there's a patch of this magnitude alone is a cause for some praise.

I really can't remember any game that's added any new mode like this at no cost. I've seen modes added, but not really at the request of the community and not so conveniently and seemlessly.

I think it speaks volumes for where the game is heading going forward, and the dedication that they are showing thus far can only mean good things for Live 15 and so on.

But that's just me, I never been one to hate. I give props where it's due. I don't know.

Not gonna lie, I didn't even read the rest of that after I saw this part. You want to give them a pat on the back for patching in a mode that was already in the game? And I'm not talking about a mode that was in the current gen version of the game that they brought back for this game, this was literally in the game back in July, they took it out and put it back in. You're making it seem like they've been clocking nonstop overtime putting that mode together to put in the game.

[The 24th Letter]

NLSC Post-Patch Interview with NBA Live 14 Gameplay Designer Scott O'Gallagher

I'll just say this. I am 99% sure the Live devs worked hard...quite honestly, most devs do....I can appreciate that...but at the end of the day a product is being sold....so "good job, good effort" for showing up won't cut it for me personally...

They patched in a mode that has been in every basketball sports game for the last 10 years if I am not mistaken...I mean I appreciate that, I really do but come on.....

[NoTiCe_O]

Re: NLSC Post-Patch Interview with NBA Live 14 Gameplay Designer Scott O'Gallagher

The mode wasn't there, now it is. Whether it was in every Live before this one it doesn't matter. If you can't appreciate them adding it then I guess you're just ungrateful. They didn't have to add it. I'm sure they could of fixed more of the roster bugs and all the other minor complaints you guys are talking about but they added an entire mode. Seriously, a mode. For free.

That's not something you see everyday, yea they had a stage demo at E3 and this was based off it, but they've already sad it wasn't a walk in the park just adding the mode, and not only that, but it will only get built upon for the future.

I don't know about anyone else but I tip my hat to you EA, for once your not all about stealing everyone money and pleasing the big guys upstairs, but you've actually implemented something that it actually valuable.

Kudos.

[alexthegreat]

Re: NLSC Post-Patch Interview with NBA Live 14 Gameplay Designer Scott O'Gallagher

The mode wasn't there, now it is. Whether it was in every Live before this one it doesn't matter. If you can't appreciate them adding it then I guess you're just ungrateful. They didn't have to add it. I'm sure they could of fixed more of the roster bugs and all the other minor complaints you guys are talking about but they added an entire mode. Seriously, a mode. For free.

I guarantee you'll find more guys on here that care more about the roster issues and "minor" (to you) bugs, than the half-assed shootaround mode we got (even though it was already made like King said)

The shoot around mode doesn't impress me. I would appreciate them stepping up and talking about their online issues, and why they can't seem to fix the bugs that we keep telling them about.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: NLSC Post-Patch Interview with NBA Live 14 Gameplay Designer Scott O'Gallagher

The mode wasn't there, now it is. Whether it was in every Live before this one it doesn't matter. If you can't appreciate them adding it then I guess you're just ungrateful. They didn't have to add it. I'm sure they could of fixed more of the roster bugs and all the other minor complaints you guys are talking about but they added an entire mode. Seriously, a mode. For free. .

Hey, I would've settled for them fixing major complaints & bugs, lol

and of course the mode is free....no ones paying money for a practice mode in a basketball video game in 2014...well, except for you maybe, since you seem incredibly impressed with it...but most wouldn't...

Like I said, I appreciate them adding it...they get a big gold star from me....but it's a practice mode....and it should have been there from the beginning....

Ungrateful? Lol...what's next, we praise EA for putting a basketball in the game? I mean hey, they didn't have to..

[NoTiCe_O]

Re: NLSC Post-Patch Interview with NBA Live 14 Gameplay Designer Scott O'Gallagher

Hey, I would've settled for them fixing major complaints & bugs, lol

and of course the mode is free....no ones paying money for a practice mode in a basketball video game in 2014...well, except for you maybe, since you seem incredibly impressed with it...but most wouldn't...

Like I said, I appreciate them adding it...they get a big gold star from me....but it's a practice mode....and it should have been there from the beginning....

Ungrateful? Lol...what's next, we praise EA for putting a basketball in the game? I mean hey, they didn't have to..

I mean you do have a option for another basketball title that's something to be grateful for.. but I only mean minor in the fact that it's something that can be updated easily, and still has time to be updated.

The roster problems could be fixed by tomorrow for all i know. You'd be surprised who'd pay money for things that were already in games, not me though. My money gets spent wisely. (Most times).

If you give them props then we're cool, but it's the people that hate for no reason that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Unnecessary to me, hit up the wishlist thread if you really want to see something change.

[King_B_Mack]

Re: NLSC Post-Patch Interview with NBA Live 14 Gameplay Designer Scott O'Gallagher

I mean you do have a option for another basketball title that's something to be grateful for.. but I only mean minor in the fact that it's something that can be updated easily, and still has time to be updated.

The roster problems could be fixed by tomorrow for all i know. You'd be surprised who'd pay money for things that were already in games, not me though. My money gets spent wisely. (Most times).

If you give them props then we're cool, but it's the people that hate for no reason that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Unnecessary to me, hit up the wishlist thread if you really want to see something change.

Well it's been broken down since launch, the game has been out since November. It's February. I'm no math major but that don't equal easily where I got an education.

I appreciate the shoot around plenty because it helps. But I'm not starting a friggin slow clap for them and acting like they achieved some modern technological miracle by copy pasting the code that they took out of the game in the first place. Again, this isn't some mode that they sat down and put together between launch and now because people wanted it. This isn't some mode that was in Live 09 that they updated and fixed. This was already in Live 14. The game you're playing right now. It was there, they took it out and added it back in during this patch. Good that they did it because it should be there, but they don't get brownie points for that ****. They didn't do it out of the goodness of their hearts, they didn't give you some kind of added value. But if that helps you sleep at night, go ahead.

[NoTiCe_O]

Re: NLSC Post-Patch Interview with NBA Live 14 Gameplay Designer Scott O'Gallagher

Well it's been broken down since launch, the game has been out since November. It's February. I'm no math major but that don't equal easily where I got an education.

I appreciate the shoot around plenty because it helps. But I'm not starting a friggin slow clap for them and acting like they achieved some modern technological miracle by copy pasting the code that they took out of the game in the first place. Again, this isn't some mode that they sat down and put together between launch and now because people wanted it. This isn't some mode that was in Live 09 that they updated and fixed. This was already in Live 14. The game you're playing right now. It was there, they took it out and added it back in during this patch. Good that they did it because it should be there, but they don't get brownie points for that ****. They didn't do it out of the goodness of their hearts, they didn't give you some kind of added value. But if that helps you sleep at night, go ahead.

I mean I've already said my peace, and proved my point or at least showed where I'm coming from so if you want to feel some type of way then I mean that's your business. The mode was there but I don't think it was easy as copying and pasting, but I don't work for EA so whatever.

I don't really think there's much more I have to say.

[noshun]

Re: NLSC Post-Patch Interview with NBA Live 14 Gameplay Designer Scott O'Gallagher

I mean you do have a option for another basketball title that's something to be grateful for.. but I only mean minor in the fact that it's something that can be updated easily, and still has time to be updated.

The roster problems could be fixed by tomorrow for all i know. You'd be surprised who'd pay money for things that were already in games, not me though. My money gets spent wisely. (Most times).

If you give them props then we're cool, but it's the people that hate for no reason that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Unnecessary to me, hit up the wishlist thread if you really want to see something change.

Save your hate rant for Hitler, I'm not him. I underlined what was said as far as they felt was unfair. They tried insulting reviewers/gamers calling us nerf hoops because the visuals were bad.


Did you try to learn the intricacies, actually taking the time to learn the game and it's depth of NBA Unrivalled?

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I get your point, but you won't watch more than 1 min of this vid before getting itchy fingered to turn it off. Same thing happened for Live 14 with the demo/full game. Is it wrong to expect better knowing this looks like basketball, but isn't.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: NLSC Post-Patch Interview with NBA Live 14 Gameplay Designer Scott O'Gallagher

I mean you do have a option for another basketball title that's something to be grateful for.. but I only mean minor in the fact that it's something that can be updated easily, and still has time to be updated.

The roster problems could be fixed by tomorrow for all i know. You'd be surprised who'd pay money for things that were already in games, not me though. My money gets spent wisely. (Most times).

If you give them props then we're cool, but it's the people that hate for no reason that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Unnecessary to me, hit up the wishlist thread if you really want to see something change.

It is what it is...we can agree to disagree...

As far as the wish list thread... if it gets the same attention as the bugs/glitches I think we can all save our typing, lol

[PVarck31]

Re: NLSC Post-Patch Interview with NBA Live 14 Gameplay Designer Scott O'Gallagher

As far as the game goes, I don't think its terrible. And I do think there is reason to believe the game will keep getting better.

However, I can't help but wonder what the heck has been going on since Live 10. I get they changed systems. But there must have been some extreme shortsightedness going on at EA with this series.

To make any type of time, effort, or how had something is to do excuse when it comes to this game is laughable. You had all the time in the world.

Claiming the initial reviews were unfair is only really unfair to the reviewers. Who knows what went on between 10-14, but whatever it was it didn't work. At least not yet. So if a review of a game that's bare bones, graphically deficient, and just plain hard to play due to some poor gameplay mechanics gets bad reviews, then I don't know what the guys at Tiburon are smoking.

If you can't get an at least above average basketball game out the door on ridiculously powerful systems in 4 years then something is seriously wrong.

BUT I do like the developers enthusiasm and they do seem like they want the game to be great. I'm excited to see where they go from here.

[loosey101]

Re: NLSC Post-Patch Interview with NBA Live 14 Gameplay Designer Scott O'Gallagher

Well they added an entire mode. Just because of feedback, if anything that at least deserves some praise. Not only a mode, but a mode that will help people play better.. "for free". Try asking any other game to patch in a new mode and it will probably come with a $4.99 or more dollar proce tag.

There is dedication coming from the team over at Live but it seems people are ignoring that part. That's all I'm saying. Not trying to belittle your post or anything but they do deserve some if not all the praise they've been getting and the hate is unnecessary

I understand, I welcome the debate, I think it's good for the forums and the game, as long as it's civilized. Like I said, I think at this point, they have no where but up to go with Live 15. The only question is, how dedicated are they to improving and making some noise in the basketball genre. I think we will get a great game, but at the same time, they promised a lot with this game and underdelivered. I enjoy playing 2k and I enjoy playing Live, for their own reasons. I just get upset that they overlooked so many easy fixes but hopefully they can fix those before Live 14 support is done.

[bigeastbumrush]

Re: NLSC Post-Patch Interview with NBA Live 14 Gameplay Designer Scott O'Gallagher

-- "Our artists were just making the player faces on their own for NBA Live 14. There were no scans to work from."

LOLWUT?

And this is why people refused to drop $60 on this game.

Unbelievable.

[RateSports]

Re: NLSC Post-Patch Interview with NBA Live 14 Gameplay Designer Scott O'Gallagher

LOLWUT?

And this is why people refused to drop $60 on this game.

Unbelievable.

Lol they have to do the same for Madden. They have some cavemen looking mf's in that game too.