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  • The 24th Letter
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    • Oct 2007
    • 39373

    #16
    Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

    Originally posted by da ThRONe
    I really don't get why sliders are needed anyways. If the game really takes into consider all the things it should we shouldn't need them. If I have to tweak things scoring in the paint there's a fundamental issue with the game.


    Just glad there adding something to the rising star mode.

    Throne, I know your a fan of the series....but this a little much man...we just going to excuse every thing they do?

    Sliders customize the user experience and have been in basically every sports game for 10+ years now....it's fine if your ok with not having them....but come on.

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    • Sports fanantic
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      • Aug 2009
      • 1012

      #17
      Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

      This is not very encouraging at all. Not having Sliders in a Sports Video game is completely unacceptable. Very bad move by EA Sports
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      • WTF
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        • Aug 2002
        • 20274

        #18
        Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

        Originally posted by Sinner
        What are you planning to tweak and/or add to the game with additional dev time?

        Sean: We'll be fine-tuning aspects of control and responsiveness, animation quality, player AI, presentation, and game balance.

        This really stood out to me, It's really nice that he's doing this after the delayed announcement, give him props for that but isn't that a lot to have to work on in 3 weeks? I'm naive to game development I admit but seems like a lot to do. Of course no sliders is a big deal also.
        You'd be surprised to see what even 1 day of tweaking and altering can do.
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        • El_Poopador
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          • Oct 2013
          • 2624

          #19
          Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

          Originally posted by da ThRONe
          I really don't get why sliders are needed anyways. If the game really takes into consider all the things it should we shouldn't need them. If I have to tweak things scoring in the paint there's a fundamental issue with the game.


          Just glad there adding something to the rising star mode.
          Not every player plays the same. Some people may not like the way the game feels by default. Ideally, the default will not need to be changed, but it's still good to have options.

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          • da ThRONe
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            • Mar 2009
            • 8528

            #20
            Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

            Originally posted by The 24th Letter
            Throne, I know your a fan of the series....but this a little much man...we just going to excuse every thing they do?

            Sliders customize the user experience and have been in basically every sports game for 10+ years now....it's fine if your ok with not having them....but come on.


            1st not a fan of the series. I'm just open minded. I killed Elite 11 and Live 14. I declared this series dead after last years game. You can go back and check


            Also this has been my stance on sliders for years. Even when EA had them in their games. This is also well document here at OS. So please don't try to paint my opinion as some blind loyal fan making excuses. That couldn't be any farther from the case.
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            • youvalss
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              • Feb 2007
              • 16595

              #21
              Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

              Did anyone ask about a demo?
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              • da ThRONe
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                • Mar 2009
                • 8528

                #22
                Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

                Originally posted by El_Poopador
                Not every player plays the same. Some people may not like the way the game feels by default. Ideally, the default will not need to be changed, but it's still good to have options.


                Sliders feel like a short cut for designers. The only reason sliders are needed is because the game isn't tune enough out of the box. I understand my opinion is rare, but that's how I see it.
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                • youvalss
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                  • Feb 2007
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                  #23
                  Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

                  Originally posted by da ThRONe
                  Sliders feel like a short cut for designers. The only reason sliders are needed is because the game isn't tune enough out of the box. I understand my opinion is rare, but that's how I see it.
                  So, you are claiming that every game that didn't have sliders was great out of the box?

                  I'd rather be stuck with a game that needs tweaking - and be able to do it, than a game that is great for some but not for me - and I can't tweak it.

                  Edit: How did you like Sony's basketball series on PS3?
                  Last edited by youvalss; 09-08-2014, 09:10 PM.
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                  • da ThRONe
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                    • Mar 2009
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                    #24
                    Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

                    Originally posted by youvalss
                    So, you are claiming that every game that didn't have sliders was great out of the box?


                    How did you come to this conclusion? The point is if it's not tuned enough that I can play right out the box something is wrong with the game. If players are making 90% of there lay ups or only 10% of drives end in fouls that's a problem that shouldn't have been there to begin with. If you or I can correct these things by simply pressing some buttons why aren't they tune in the 1st place.
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                    • SageInfinite
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                      • Jul 2002
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                      #25
                      Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

                      Originally posted by da ThRONe
                      1st not a fan of the series. I'm just open minded. I killed Elite 11 and Live 14. I declared this series dead after last years game. You can go back and check
                      I ain't trynna come for you, but it's just funny to me you're saying you're being open minded but don't think games need sliders, lol. I play plenty of games out the box, I'm not a slider dude, but that doesn't mean every game shouldn't have as much customization as possible. Everybody doesn't play or view things the same, so sliders are a must imo nowadays. I don't even really use those ****s.
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                      • da ThRONe
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                        • Mar 2009
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                        #26
                        Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

                        Originally posted by youvalss
                        So, you are claiming that every game that didn't have sliders was great out of the box?

                        I'd rather be stuck with a game that needs tweaking - and be able to do it, than a game that is great for some but not for me - and I can't tweak it.

                        Edit: How did you like Sony's basketball series on PS3?


                        My point is some things are fundamental to basketball and should be in the game day one without me having to touch anything. There shouldn't be such egregious flaws in style of play. I don't dislike sliders and I understand customization, but some of the things you have to use slider for just to get decent play in a lot of the sports games since sliders became "standard" is over the top.
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                        • The 24th Letter
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                          • Oct 2007
                          • 39373

                          #27
                          Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

                          Originally posted by da ThRONe
                          1st not a fan of the series. I'm just open minded. I killed Elite 11 and Live 14. I declared this series dead after last years game. You can go back and check


                          Also this has been my stance on sliders for years. Even when EA had them in their games. This is also well document here at OS. So please don't try to paint my opinion as some blind loyal fan making excuses. That couldn't be any farther from the case.

                          Oh, j definitely peep history before I make a comment...

                          Wasn't trying to paint you as anything though, just hard to fathom this viewpoint. There's a reason there a slider sub forum for every game on this board....

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                          • DonWuan
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                            • Oct 2010
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                            #28
                            Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

                            Okay the no sliders thing was mentioned with the nlsc interview, why are you all surprised?

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                            • youvalss
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                              • Feb 2007
                              • 16595

                              #29
                              Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

                              Originally posted by da ThRONe
                              How did you come to this conclusion? The point is if it's not tuned enough that I can play right out the box something is wrong with the game. If players are making 90% of there lay ups or only 10% of drives end in fouls that's a problem that shouldn't have been there to begin with. If you or I can correct these things by simply pressing some buttons why aren't they tune in the 1st place.
                              Agree with you about ideally not needing to tweak anything - I'd love that. That SHOULD be what you buy. But who can promise that this game won't have any issues like that?

                              Just because they give you the option, doesn't mean they decided to get lazy and ignore your wish for a fine product out of the box, in my opinion. I'm sure there are TON of people who enjoy games on default settings (I'm pretty sure I've had that happened in the past). But that's not a very common situation, especially that there are many different playing styles by different people.

                              We both want good products out of the box, I'm not arguing here. I just don't believe it is possible for everyone who buys the game these days.
                              Last edited by youvalss; 09-08-2014, 09:21 PM.
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                              • ProfessaPackMan
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                                • Mar 2008
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                                #30
                                Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

                                There is no acceptable excuse in the 2014 for ANY Sports Games to NOT allow you to customize it to YOUR liking. Absolutely none.

                                And to rely on any company to get complete 100% representation/simulation of an actual NFL/NBA/MLB game that you see on TV is being naive and there's no other way to put it especially since they've been trying for how many years now and have still yet to get it right? Somebody tell me how this is worth a full $60 again?
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