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  • Playmakers
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2004
    • 15413

    #46
    Re: Individual team player/playing styles

    also one thing i would i like to add is that so many people are hell bent on this auto play option

    in reality these teams should have tendencies and playing styles that carried over from last year

    so regardless of default settings why aren't teams and players atleast doing what they did during the 2013 NBA season out of the box?

    The Spurs and Mavs shoudl be playing the same way they did last year regardless with or without synergy being up and running.

    There's starting to be too many excuses for the game out of the box.
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    • bigeastbumrush
      My Momma's Son
      • Feb 2003
      • 19245

      #47
      Re: Individual team player/playing styles

      Originally posted by Playmakers
      also one thing i would i like to add is that so many people are hell bent on this auto play option

      in reality these teams should have tendencies and playing styles that carried over from last year

      so regardless of default settings why aren't teams and players atleast doing what they did during the 2013 NBA season out of the box?

      The Spurs and Mavs shoudl be playing the same way they did last year regardless with or without synergy being up and running.

      There's starting to be too many excuses for the game out of the box.
      The automotion is just a setting that you turn on once. It is pretty much just generic motion so players just don't stand still. I don't see anyone making excuses for it or even talking about it.

      What you seem to be talking about is not in the game. That's as plainly as I can put it.

      But it has nothing to do with Synergy.

      Synergy is just what guys do once they get the ball. Do they go left, right, post up, spot up, etc. Those are Tendencies.

      Synergy has nothing to do with team sets. That's more playbook related.
      Synergy has nothing to do with throwing lobs or flashy passes. That's more ratings related.

      If you haven't bought the game, I'd suggest play the demo or Gamefly it if you're not sure about it.

      Other than that, no one here is going to convince you that it does what you're looking for.

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      • Gotmadskillzson
        Live your life
        • Apr 2008
        • 23439

        #48
        Re: Individual team player/playing styles

        Actually what Playmakers said does involve Synergy, it says so right here:
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        Staying connected is a core philosophy for NBA LIVE 15. It’s not just about playing Online with your friends and rivals, it’s about being in lockstep with what goes on in the NBA – all season long.

        Through our exclusive partnership with Synergy Sports Technology, we are able to seamlessly receive real-time data that allows us to make adjustments to Tendencies, Stats and Behaviors. This ensures that what is seen in-game is an accurate representation of how these players act in real life.*

        *Internet connection required to receive updates

        Here's how it all works. Synergy Sports is a sports technology company that provides near real-time analytics and data to all 30 NBA teams. Here’s a quick look at some of the info and functionality they provide:

        Ability to look up team and players when executing play types like post-ups, pick and rolls, isolations, off screens, spot-ups, transitions and more
        Sort video for shot attempts: Catch and shoots, jump shot off the dribble, and drives to the basket
        Watch video of traditional stats: Shots, assists, rebounds, steals turnovers, etc.
        Useful charts demonstrate jump shot range and player’s drive and post-up tendencies
        Interactive shot charts let you find shots for any part of the game, or sort shots by play type, bench vs. starters, individual players and much more
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        Graphic tools compare players head-to-head, using regular stats or play type stats
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        Leaderboards let you assess any player in hundreds of categories, and compare them to the rest of the players in their league
        NBA teams use this data to build scouting reports, coach players and much more. This data is available at an extraordinarily granular level for all games after their completion.

        So how does Synergy Sports Technology work with NBA LIVE? Synergy Sports provides us a direct feed of player scouting DNA and Tendencies. We are then able to take this data and apply it to our game – which dynamically affects player tendencies in-game, as well as modes such as LIVE Seasons and Tonight’s Games.

        This information also tells us things that don’t appear in the box score, such as shots off the dribble or if a player was being guarded - which all influence ratings. One of the goals we have for the future of NBA LIVE is to remove subjectivity from player ratings and performance – a true 1:1 representation of each and every player in the league.

        So let’s take Kevin Love, for example. In his new home in Cleveland – playing alongside LeBron James and Kyrie Irving – how he plays will be much different than when he was in Minnesota.

        As a result, his tendencies will change as he settles in. With Synergy Sports Technology integration, you will see those adjustments in real time.

        This means that when you go to play against the Cavs – you will notice a different play style from Kevin that you will have to account for as the season progresses.

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        So in essence, Synergy controls everything, from play sets, play calls, and play styles, along with individual player behavior. With that being said, right out the box, every team at least should be using Synergy from last season and be playing to their style. As it is now, they don't. Lob city don't play like Lob City. Spurs don't play like the Spurs. Hell PGs that are assist wizards in real life, barely have assists in this game. You don't see teams who last season had a very aggressive pressing defense play that way in NBA Live 15.

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        • Playmakers
          Hall Of Fame
          • Sep 2004
          • 15413

          #49
          Re: Individual team player/playing styles

          Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
          The automotion is just a setting that you turn on once. It is pretty much just generic motion so players just don't stand still. I don't see anyone making excuses for it or even talking about it.

          What you seem to be talking about is not in the game. That's as plainly as I can put it.

          But it has nothing to do with Synergy.

          Synergy is just what guys do once they get the ball. Do they go left, right, post up, spot up, etc. Those are Tendencies.

          Synergy has nothing to do with team sets. That's more playbook related.
          Synergy has nothing to do with throwing lobs or flashy passes. That's more ratings related.

          If you haven't bought the game, I'd suggest play the demo or Gamefly it if you're not sure about it.

          Other than that, no one here is going to convince you that it does what you're looking for.
          but even if you read the logic behind the ratings they are suppose to throw certain passes and pull off dribble moves based on the assigned ratings...

          yet despite CP3 having elite ratings in ball handling and passing have you seen him a throw a lob pass to Blake or DeAndre?

          The ratings triggers the passes that is what EA said in their player ratings they were releaseing everyday up til release

          I followed everyone of those daily ratings releases for top players and their explanation as to how the ratings carry over to the game.

          We can all agree to disagree but the bottom line is if you read the list of things of what they (EA) said themselves Synergy controls this year then why isn't it happening?

          I'm also confused as to why Synergy has to be activated in order for teams like the Spurs to play their style of ball right out of the box?

          They have been playing that way for a few years and so have the Clippers since Paul arrived and yet in order for the game to replicate their styles of play Synrgy has to be activated makes no sense at all to me.
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          • bigeastbumrush
            My Momma's Son
            • Feb 2003
            • 19245

            #50
            Re: Individual team player/playing styles

            Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
            Actually what Playmakers said does involve Synergy, it says so right here:
            NBA LIVE 19 redefines the way you play a basketball game. 1v1 Everywhere featuring Real Player Motion gives you control in every possession, providing you the ability to change momentum in any game and dominate your opponent. Pursue basketball glory





            So in essence, Synergy controls everything, from play sets, play calls, and play styles, along with individual player behavior. With that being said, right out the box, every team at least should be using Synergy from last season and be playing to their style. As it is now, they don't. Lob city don't play like Lob City. Spurs don't play like the Spurs. Hell PGs that are assist wizards in real life, barely have assists in this game. You don't see teams who last season had a very aggressive pressing defense play that way in NBA Live 15.
            Where does it mention the bolded?

            A play set is related to the team's playbook not what an individual player does. Same goes with play calls and play styles.

            Y'all kidding me with Lob City. I'm agreeing with you. But again, that's not a Synergy issue.

            If CP3 is rated a 99 in passing, he should be throwing lobs, flashy passes, etc. If Mario Chalmers is rated a 10, he shouldn't.

            Where does drive and shot tendency come in to play there? It doesn't.

            As far as Synergy from last year being in the game, again, it has nothing to do with play sets.

            If the Mavs are supposed to run a High Post offense but you have Tyson Chandler out at the 3 point line, that's because the Devs had it wrong. Just look at some of the playbooks because they tell the true story.

            I'm telling you it's a ratings and playbook issue but y'all stuck on Synergy.

            But I digress.

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            • bigeastbumrush
              My Momma's Son
              • Feb 2003
              • 19245

              #51
              Re: Individual team player/playing styles

              Originally posted by Playmakers
              but even if you read the logic behind the ratings they are suppose to throw certain passes and pull off dribble moves based on the assigned ratings...

              yet despite CP3 having elite ratings in ball handling and passing have you seen him a throw a lob pass to Blake or DeAndre?

              The ratings triggers the passes that is what EA said in their player ratings they were releaseing everyday up til release

              I followed everyone of those daily ratings releases for top players and their explanation as to how the ratings carry over to the game.

              We can all agree to disagree but the bottom line is if you read the list of things of what they (EA) said themselves Synergy controls this year then why isn't it happening?

              I'm also confused as to why Synergy has to be activated in order for teams like the Spurs to play their style of ball right out of the box?

              They have been playing that way for a few years and so have the Clippers since Paul arrived and yet in order for the game to replicate their styles of play Synrgy has to be activated makes no sense at all to me.
              For the last time...Synergy does not equal play styles.

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              • WTF
                MVP
                • Aug 2002
                • 20274

                #52
                Re: Individual team player/playing styles

                I've already verified that Playbooks can and will be edited to ensure that each team is utilizing plays to get them looks where they need to be getting them. I think Playbooks being tweaked will be a big key in getting some of the things that everyone is looking for.

                Then again, I've been wrong before
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                • Gotmadskillzson
                  Live your life
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 23439

                  #53
                  Re: Individual team player/playing styles

                  Guess we will find out. Because I associate behavior with play styles and it says Synergy controls behavior.

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                  • Playmakers
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 15413

                    #54
                    Re: Individual team player/playing styles

                    Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                    For the last time...Synergy does not equal play styles.
                    and for the last time it says RATINGS will control some form of play styels right?

                    The lob pass is associated with CP3 pass ratings...

                    would you like yo for me to go back and post the responce by EA as to what the ratings control during gameplay?

                    I asked the question specifically to the EA guy myself he said elite PG's with high passing rating and dribble rating will pull off the specific moves or passes according to their ratings.

                    So Paul should still be throwing or attempting lob passes right or wrong even without SYNERGY?
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                    • bigeastbumrush
                      My Momma's Son
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 19245

                      #55
                      Re: Individual team player/playing styles

                      Originally posted by Playmakers
                      and for the last time it says RATINGS will control some form of play styels right?

                      The lob pass is associated with CP3 pass ratings...

                      would you like yo for me to go back and post the responce by EA as to what the ratings control during gameplay?

                      I asked the question specifically to the EA guy myself he said elite PG's with high passing rating and dribble rating will pull off the specific moves or passes according to their ratings.

                      So Paul should still be throwing or attempting lob passes right or wrong even without SYNERGY?
                      Yes

                      .......

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                      • Jano
                        You Dead Wrong
                        • May 2004
                        • 3161

                        #56
                        Re: Individual team player/playing styles

                        I don't think Bigeast is saying the lob passes isn't associated with the rating.

                        I think he's saying that right now the play book don't call for a lob city kind of action. All the teams run is ISO sets.

                        If that's all they do then it's no wonder they don't throw lobs or Dirk isn't in the high post.

                        Because that's an issue with playbook. Again I maintain the stance that if the EA devs can get their teams to run authentic team specific plays then synergy will thrive. But if they are going to continue to have they AI only run simple pick n roll and ISO sets they won't.

                        Even if all I do is run ISO there won't be many lobs cuz there isn't any movement to create that. Now a pick n roll could lead to a lob but that could also just be an AI issue there as well. Now if we see the team is running a play set that matches up with the CLIPPERS half court offense and they STILL aren't throwing lobs... Then I think we got a problem.

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                        Last edited by Jano; 10-30-2014, 02:09 PM.

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                        • The 24th Letter
                          ERA
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 39373

                          #57
                          Re: Individual team player/playing styles

                          So you guy's would say the Mav's posting up Tyson Chandler\Richard Jefferson is being driven more by playbooks than Synergy?

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                          • rafaelpaolo84
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 156

                            #58
                            Re: Individual team player/playing styles

                            The way I understand it, the Mavs posting up Chandler is driven by the playbooks. What he does when he receives the ball once he's there is driven by Synergy.

                            So team play styles and sets are driven by the game's playbooks. Individual player styles/tendencies once he has the ball is driven by Synergy.

                            I think so.
                            Last edited by rafaelpaolo84; 10-30-2014, 02:15 PM.

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                            • Jano
                              You Dead Wrong
                              • May 2004
                              • 3161

                              #59
                              Re: Individual team player/playing styles

                              Yea that's what I'd say because it seems like the computer is running post up plays for those guys specifically.

                              Why that would even happen in the first place is beyond my understanding.

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                              • Gotmadskillzson
                                Live your life
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 23439

                                #60
                                Re: Individual team player/playing styles

                                To me throwing lobs and setting high picks is a behavior trait. No different the QBs in Madden prone to throwing the ball away, forcing passes or scrambling, it is their behavior. Therefore if Chris Paul is known to throw lobs, Griffin and Jordan known to look for lobs, that is all behavior.

                                Synergy controls behavior.

                                Either way, the CPU rarely runs plays ANYWAY.

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