EA may actually be addressing the problems.

[SixerFan03]

Re: EA may actually be addressing the problems.

I like the sound of this:


"Tim Tschirner: This year we've redone all of the logics (Free Agency, Contracts, Rookie Development, etc.) from scratch and this has resulted in a much more realistic game experience while you take on the role of GM, Coach and Player. We threw out the point system and you now use money for signing Free Agents, re-signing your Players and making trades. All this is being driven through the PDA Text Messenger, which serves as your guide and communication device for everything you do in Dynasty Mode. You will receive Emails from the Team owner, Coaching Staff, Scouts, Medical Stuff, NBA Head Office, other NBA teams and Players' Agents.

For example, if you want to Sign a Free Agent, you make your contract offer and send it off to the Player's Agent. Based on your offer and his demands, you will get a positive or negative answer within a few days. Other teams will make you trade offers via Email, but if you ignore them they will take the offer off the table. It's a very exciting and new way to play Dynasty Mode and there are lots of things to explore. If you run your team well by winning games, training players and scouting players, other NBA teams may offer you a job.

Other areas that we have improved are the Off-Season, the Simulation Engine and the Rookie Scouting. The Off-Season is now integrated into the Calendar and you are free to explore all aspects of it. If you want to get to know a particular rookie's skills before you're about to draft him, you can take him into a 1-on-1 game and see how he performs against players on your team."

[SixerFan03]

Re: EA may actually be addressing the problems.

I like the sound of this:


"Tim Tschirner: This year we've redone all of the logics (Free Agency, Contracts, Rookie Development, etc.) from scratch and this has resulted in a much more realistic game experience while you take on the role of GM, Coach and Player. We threw out the point system and you now use money for signing Free Agents, re-signing your Players and making trades. All this is being driven through the PDA Text Messenger, which serves as your guide and communication device for everything you do in Dynasty Mode. You will receive Emails from the Team owner, Coaching Staff, Scouts, Medical Stuff, NBA Head Office, other NBA teams and Players' Agents.

For example, if you want to Sign a Free Agent, you make your contract offer and send it off to the Player's Agent. Based on your offer and his demands, you will get a positive or negative answer within a few days. Other teams will make you trade offers via Email, but if you ignore them they will take the offer off the table. It's a very exciting and new way to play Dynasty Mode and there are lots of things to explore. If you run your team well by winning games, training players and scouting players, other NBA teams may offer you a job.

Other areas that we have improved are the Off-Season, the Simulation Engine and the Rookie Scouting. The Off-Season is now integrated into the Calendar and you are free to explore all aspects of it. If you want to get to know a particular rookie's skills before you're about to draft him, you can take him into a 1-on-1 game and see how he performs against players on your team."

[bamalam]

Re: EA may actually be addressing the problems.

Sounds cool

The only changes to franchise mode seem to be new logics and email WE SHALL SEE THOUGH!!! i know im renting first

definitely buying this yr. with no id this yr and espn as competition, this game is it for me. i actually grew to like live 04 and imo ended up being the best game for 04. i have been diehard id for 02 and 03, and ranked live 3rd for 02 and 03.but i was disappointed with id 04 and their rosters/updates.

i might rent espn also but will wait and see on that one to see if they come back with any kind of decent bball game. live 05 is sounding good.

franchise - new logic and emails - tim state s they redid franchise from scratch , plus using real $. i think it will be much better

[bamalam]

Re: EA may actually be addressing the problems.

Sounds cool

The only changes to franchise mode seem to be new logics and email WE SHALL SEE THOUGH!!! i know im renting first

definitely buying this yr. with no id this yr and espn as competition, this game is it for me. i actually grew to like live 04 and imo ended up being the best game for 04. i have been diehard id for 02 and 03, and ranked live 3rd for 02 and 03.but i was disappointed with id 04 and their rosters/updates.

i might rent espn also but will wait and see on that one to see if they come back with any kind of decent bball game. live 05 is sounding good.

franchise - new logic and emails - tim state s they redid franchise from scratch , plus using real $. i think it will be much better

[OneBadMutha]

Re: EA may actually be addressing the problems.

I happened to miss this line...

"If you want to get to know a particular rookie's skills before you're about to draft him, you can take him into a 1-on-1 game and see how he performs against players on your team."

Wow. That's a great idea that would really make the franchise mode and drafting deeper. Hopefully they limit it to a handful of players since teams in real life only have a handful of players work out for them.

[OneBadMutha]

Re: EA may actually be addressing the problems.

I happened to miss this line...

"If you want to get to know a particular rookie's skills before you're about to draft him, you can take him into a 1-on-1 game and see how he performs against players on your team."

Wow. That's a great idea that would really make the franchise mode and drafting deeper. Hopefully they limit it to a handful of players since teams in real life only have a handful of players work out for them.

[sonofsiam]

Re: EA may actually be addressing the problems.

[QUOTE=Sonicmage]Thats a bold statement considering what Live 2003 was. And he was assistant producer on Live 2001, so the 2002 statement is also incorrect.

But I was an active member of NLSC back in Tim's day so I understand what you are trying to say here.

QUOTE]

I remember being VERY dissapointed with LIVE 2003. I was hyped, having heard Tim was involved. Then................wtf is this crap I think was my reaction.

Retrospectively, there's no denying it was a horrible game. However, also retrsospectively, you can see how it revolutionised control.

Live 2004 was another, imo BIG, step forward. But still a fair way short.

LIVE 2005, if it's the 'same sized' step forward...............it may be something special. Let's hope so. I need a great b-ball game this year. The past two years, every title has been dissapointing. From Live not having a mid range game and rebounding, to ESPN not having anything much anymore, to Inside Drive having horrible atmosphere, half the players with the same face, and no pressure defense to speak of.

I never posted much back at NLSC in the old days. I can't even remember my username. But I read it most days and d/l all the patches and used to e-mail Tim occasionally to say thanks. He always struck me as having the drive and ideas that i'd love to see in an NBA game.

BTW, whatever happened to the other guy? Lutz?

[sonofsiam]

Re: EA may actually be addressing the problems.

[QUOTE=Sonicmage]Thats a bold statement considering what Live 2003 was. And he was assistant producer on Live 2001, so the 2002 statement is also incorrect.

But I was an active member of NLSC back in Tim's day so I understand what you are trying to say here.

QUOTE]

I remember being VERY dissapointed with LIVE 2003. I was hyped, having heard Tim was involved. Then................wtf is this crap I think was my reaction.

Retrospectively, there's no denying it was a horrible game. However, also retrsospectively, you can see how it revolutionised control.

Live 2004 was another, imo BIG, step forward. But still a fair way short.

LIVE 2005, if it's the 'same sized' step forward...............it may be something special. Let's hope so. I need a great b-ball game this year. The past two years, every title has been dissapointing. From Live not having a mid range game and rebounding, to ESPN not having anything much anymore, to Inside Drive having horrible atmosphere, half the players with the same face, and no pressure defense to speak of.

I never posted much back at NLSC in the old days. I can't even remember my username. But I read it most days and d/l all the patches and used to e-mail Tim occasionally to say thanks. He always struck me as having the drive and ideas that i'd love to see in an NBA game.

BTW, whatever happened to the other guy? Lutz?

[sonofsiam]

Re: EA may actually be addressing the problems.

Now when I hear a developer boasting about off the ball screens, cuts without the ball, player differential, boxing out, and a mid range game, I can't help but get excited. These things have been missing from Basketball games forever. Those are the types of things missing from Basketball games that keep them from elevating into having the replayability of Football games. While flash is cool and controls are important, it's the fundamentals that give the video games depth just like they give watching an NBA game between teams with 2 good coaches more depth than watching street ballers.

For the last 2 years I played Inside Drive despite enormous flaws, average controls, terrible announcing, and bland graphics because it was the only game to have some assemblence of player differential, a mid range game, and off the ball movement. Now it seems like EA is finally about to implement those things into a much tighter package with better controls, visuals, sound, and A.I. Add the fact that NBA Live will now be online over XBL and I'm really excited. I guess I'm slowly starting to come back to the EA bandwagon for now.

I am in the same boat. Went right off EA, became a huge NBA 2K player. But that series has gone to the dogs. Played ID mainly the past two years, but there's so much lacking. No atmosphere, horrible defense, no time outs. Worse still, no ID05 and the rosters, divisions etc are all so out dated. No Charlotte, no rookies.

Praying LIVE 05 can live up the hype.

[sonofsiam]

Re: EA may actually be addressing the problems.

Now when I hear a developer boasting about off the ball screens, cuts without the ball, player differential, boxing out, and a mid range game, I can't help but get excited. These things have been missing from Basketball games forever. Those are the types of things missing from Basketball games that keep them from elevating into having the replayability of Football games. While flash is cool and controls are important, it's the fundamentals that give the video games depth just like they give watching an NBA game between teams with 2 good coaches more depth than watching street ballers.

For the last 2 years I played Inside Drive despite enormous flaws, average controls, terrible announcing, and bland graphics because it was the only game to have some assemblence of player differential, a mid range game, and off the ball movement. Now it seems like EA is finally about to implement those things into a much tighter package with better controls, visuals, sound, and A.I. Add the fact that NBA Live will now be online over XBL and I'm really excited. I guess I'm slowly starting to come back to the EA bandwagon for now.

I am in the same boat. Went right off EA, became a huge NBA 2K player. But that series has gone to the dogs. Played ID mainly the past two years, but there's so much lacking. No atmosphere, horrible defense, no time outs. Worse still, no ID05 and the rosters, divisions etc are all so out dated. No Charlotte, no rookies.

Praying LIVE 05 can live up the hype.

[Emilio]

Re: EA may actually be addressing the problems.

Man, I am so excited about this game. It will finally have all the things we've hoped for all these years. Last year's game was great, no doubt about that, but this year seems to be something special. Check this out:

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/sports/nbalive2005/preview_6102789.html

If you don't want all the details, here's a run-through:
>All-Star Weekend events
+Dunk contest
+3-Point Contest
+Rookie vs. Sophmore game
>Control over offensive rebounds
+One button for tip-in
+Button for dunk put-back
+Button to just take down board
>Pro Hop Fix
+No clear lane to hoop=lose control of ball
+Easier striping of ball
+More offensive foul calls
>Much more animations
+Soft lob into post
+1000s of dunk combo possibilities

Very exciting stuff people.

[Emilio]

Re: EA may actually be addressing the problems.

Man, I am so excited about this game. It will finally have all the things we've hoped for all these years. Last year's game was great, no doubt about that, but this year seems to be something special. Check this out:

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/sports/nbalive2005/preview_6102789.html

If you don't want all the details, here's a run-through:
>All-Star Weekend events
+Dunk contest
+3-Point Contest
+Rookie vs. Sophmore game
>Control over offensive rebounds
+One button for tip-in
+Button for dunk put-back
+Button to just take down board
>Pro Hop Fix
+No clear lane to hoop=lose control of ball
+Easier striping of ball
+More offensive foul calls
>Much more animations
+Soft lob into post
+1000s of dunk combo possibilities

Very exciting stuff people.

[jordan0386]

Re: EA may actually be addressing the problems.

you forgot to type playable for months..oh yea..."TBA"

[jordan0386]

Re: EA may actually be addressing the problems.

you forgot to type playable for months..oh yea..."TBA"

[drespn]

Re: EA may actually be addressing the problems.

Wow, you guys are taking me back talking about Tim and Lutz! I used to post there in '99-'01 and recently registered again............

I just want a more fluid game, period. I hated the fact that once I got too good for the game on Superstar I had to turn the CPU's physical D up to 100% just to get a competitive game. That results in a whole bunch of these bumps where you can't move, shoot or pass for a few seconds. Very frustrating........

I can't for the life of me understand that how the NBA/basketball can be so popular and we have yet to have a sim with Madden-type standards. Every year I'm hopeful that this will be the game. It's no different for 2005, i have high hopes........