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  • seanhazz1
    Rookie
    • Nov 2006
    • 416

    #391
    Re: NBA Live 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions Here

    Nice honest re-review. If you were not aware, the "runs" you experienced are a direct result of applied "synergy", which is the real life tendencies of each player gathered nightly from actual in game, NBA data, available the next day after a RL game via update. It's similar in concept to 2K's ACE feature but a bit further along in development.

    The subtle controller inputs in Live are more responsive, so the stick movements respond faster. In fact Turbo is almost not even needed to play this game (except the post game) I think "Over-turbo" is a big culprit of "awkward" animations in Live.

    I don't think the physics are that off, just people aren't used to seeing full speed (turbo) directional changes, especially those coming from 2K where there are more transitional animations, and more dependency on turbo. Think of the flailing you see during HS basketball gut drills(formerly called suicides) , and you get my point.

    Live REWARDS those who run the plays, even bad players, seemingly giving a small to medium boost for executing the play properly off the screen or pick, and shooting, to include even contested shots. That "timing" will come with repetition, and you'll recognize the right animation with consistency. Also, If you expand your game outside the PnR you start to see some really good stuff from the AI.

    The AI does have "stuck" issues that rear their ugly head from time to time (late in the shot clock, and sometimes in the post) but you didn't seem affected by your review.

    The sliders this year provided DO affect the game to your chosen style but only in Dynasty consistently, as the daily updates play hell with play now sliders after updates.

    I would definitely recommend playing WITHOUT turbo on offense, when starting out, to get a feel for all the speed and movement you can get out of just left stick, for each player, and to break the learned turbo habit from 2K.

    Your customization sentiments ring true throughout this forum, but personally, I always ask, if Synergy is working (actual real data) without customization, outside of uniforms and cosmetics, what would be the purpose of ratings edits?

    Preloading the shot or pass (hitting the button before the ball changes hands) will initiate the next response faster, turbo would be the speed modifier in this case. The post is lacking a couple animations here and there but is definitely more than functional.

    Glad you purchased the game at your price point and also glad you enjoyed it, as many spend more time commenting on what the game is not, instead of finding out what it actually is.

    Lastly, Some of the users here have a really good grasp of the Live game and direction, and can really help improve your experience, if needed.
    Currently playing:
    MLB The Show 17
    NBA Live 18
    NBA 2k18
    Madden 18
    Absolver
    STO
    TWITCH Stream
    BEAM Stream

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    • BL8001
      MVP
      • Jul 2010
      • 1884

      #392
      Re: NBA Live 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions Here

      How do you show player names under the cpu?

      Just got the $16 psn version and I am playing the rookie adidas game. I just want to see the player name under whoever has the ball.
      resident curmudgeon

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      • rudyjuly2
        Cade Cunningham
        • Aug 2002
        • 14813

        #393
        Re: NBA Live 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions Here

        Originally posted by BL8001
        How do you show player names under the cpu?
        I don't believe you can although that would be nice. If that option exists I would like it (and feel dumb for not knowing it existed).

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        • BL8001
          MVP
          • Jul 2010
          • 1884

          #394
          Re: NBA Live 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions Here

          Yeah I have looked through all the options/settings.

          Nothing makes it show.

          Odd as it would be very helpful.

          I can't always tell who is defending me if a switch occurs.
          resident curmudgeon

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          • Calvenn
            Pro
            • Oct 2002
            • 698

            #395
            Re: NBA Live 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions Here

            Honestly, at this stage, development focus should begin to fully shift to Live 17 if it hasn't already. Since the developers are dealing with bureaucratic restrictions, all possible resources should be summoned on deck and strategically/effectively allocated for what I/We believe is a pivotal year for this franchise. One final patch to address various key issues and call it good! Allow Synergy tweaks/tuning to handle the rest and round out Live 16 IMO. The game has made tremendous strides since the demo and there is some considerable buzz out there now judging from various communication channels. We are also seeing a good increase in Pro AM gamers as of late, therefore this momentum should serve well for the next installment of this game.

            Areas that need to be tightened up or addressed this year IMO, if feasible: (Superstar game level)


            1) Hook shot animations need to be improved (think slingshot type hook shots) and conversion rates must be reduced to more realistic percentages.
            2) The turnaround jumper animation, though not bad, can stand to use some adjustments or refinements in animation and also needs to have success rates realistically reduced.
            3) Though I applaud the incorporation of momentum based physics in this game, there are times when it can be overkill. One example is when your cpu teammate is running down the baseline and receives a pass, perhaps on a fast-break. It's typically a chore to slow down the player and position him properly for the shot or drive to the basket. This disrupts the logical flow of the game and can kill true opportunities. There should be some programmed awareness for cpu teammates during these moments. Though I have found a way to manage this issue, others may not view or deal with it the same way.
            4) Defense, though improved, still needs more work, especially for Tip Off games. There are holes that can still be exploited, especially with the quick first step burst. This is an area they corrected for the most part a few weeks ago and appear to have strayed away from as of late.
            5) Fatigue impact has been improved post patches, however, it needs to be even more consequential as it pertains to the effectiveness of fatigued players, especially for those who constantly employ the turbo option ( I personally don't use turbo unless on a fastbreak and need to ensure my player remains ahead of the pack or blows by a defender)
            6) Allowing adjustment options to existing camera angles would be a VERY welcome modification!

            I may have missed some others, but truthfully, a majority can be reserved for Live 17. Looking forward to a truly successful year for this franchise and glad to see others are finally coming around and putting in the effort to understand the gameplay intricacies while rightfully supporting its progress.
            Last edited by Calvenn; 01-06-2016, 09:06 AM.

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            • Justonepost
              Rookie
              • Nov 2015
              • 482

              #396
              Re: NBA Live 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions Here

              Originally posted by BL8001
              How do you show player names under the cpu?

              Just got the $16 psn version and I am playing the rookie adidas game. I just want to see the player name under whoever has the ball.
              What I can't understand is the opposite.

              EA haven't even given us the option to completely remove/hide the player name. If we have the icon on, it automatically (briefly) displays the name of the ballhandler.

              In every Live up until this one, we had the option to turn it off.

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              • SoxFan01605
                All Star
                • Jan 2008
                • 7982

                #397
                Re: NBA Live 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions Here

                Two questions:

                1. Any advice for pump fakes? There seem to be an inordinate amount that get chucked as early release jumpers. I can't seem to find a consistent window for it.

                2. In Rising Star, sometimes when I go to cut across the court through the box, my guy gets glued to a defender in what looks like a post animation. I've tried to go in and out of the post to break it (in case that's what it was), tried the the various off-ball moves and no luck. My guy just seems stuck in a weird animation that uncomfortably looks like I'm grinding on the defender...lol.

                The only way I've been able to break it is to call for the ball, which loosens me up, dribble away a little, and then pass it out again. Btw, this isn't like when you get stuck on a screen on defense (that makes sense to me-my guard relatively weak and not very big, so I have to fight through screens a lot), but it feels like I have no movement control. It doesn't happen a lot, but it's enough to break the flow of the game. Any advice?

                Thanks.

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                • seanhazz1
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 416

                  #398
                  Re: NBA Live 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions Here

                  Originally posted by SoxFan01605
                  Two questions:

                  1. Any advice for pump fakes? There seem to be an inordinate amount that get chucked as early release jumpers. I can't seem to find a consistent window for it.
                  I don't know if you are doing it already(disregard if you are), but have you tried a "dead stick" pump fake? (no left stick input) Any STICK motion (momentum) combined with the light press of the shoot button, as the input is detected in LIVE, will result in a moving/momentum shot attempt. It may result in a floater near the paint or awkward shot attempt and, not the pump fake you desire.

                  Example: IRL, If you are sprinting/running, it becomes extremely hard/impossible to pump fake and keep the pivot foot in place (imagine trying a pump fake while moving in RL, it would most likely be a travel call against you unless you pass out of it or shoot it IRL).
                  Currently playing:
                  MLB The Show 17
                  NBA Live 18
                  NBA 2k18
                  Madden 18
                  Absolver
                  STO
                  TWITCH Stream
                  BEAM Stream

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                  • BL8001
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 1884

                    #399
                    Re: NBA Live 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions Here

                    Originally posted by seanhazz1
                    I don't know if you are doing it already(disregard if you are), but have you tried a "dead stick" pump fake? (no left stick input)
                    This is exactly what I do and have had zero issues with the pump fake. It works as expected. My input is basically my thumb resting on the stick with the stick "dead".

                    Now the pro hop and euro step are giving me trouble. I think it's because I am pressing triangle, not tapping. Will test that tonight.

                    Also I was watching one of gotmadskillz game vids on youtube and saw the CPU run a double high screen. No more plays on the Dpad right?
                    So you just have to find a play package or something that has double high screen in it to run this?
                    resident curmudgeon

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                    • pdawg17
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 937

                      #400
                      Re: NBA Live 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions Here

                      Wow this game has gotten so much better!

                      BUT

                      I cannot believe the end of game logic is still not fixed...

                      Playing on superstar as the Warriors vs the Hornets I was up 3 they had the ball with 15 seconds left only to dribble the clock down to 2 seconds for a pass underneath for a dunk...so disappointing...

                      Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk

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                      • The 24th Letter
                        ERA
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 39373

                        #401
                        NBA Live 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions Here

                        Originally posted by pdawg17
                        Wow this game has gotten so much better!

                        BUT

                        I cannot believe the end of game logic is still not fixed...

                        Playing on superstar as the Warriors vs the Hornets I was up 3 they had the ball with 15 seconds left only to dribble the clock down to 2 seconds for a pass underneath for a dunk...so disappointing...

                        Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk

                        It definitely Has man but wow it sucks to hear this!

                        I hadn't been in a late game situation since the patch but I hadn't heard anything about it....assumed it was fixed...

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                        • Calvenn
                          Pro
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 698

                          #402
                          Re: NBA Live 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions Here

                          Originally posted by pdawg17
                          Wow this game has gotten so much better!

                          BUT

                          I cannot believe the end of game logic is still not fixed...

                          Playing on superstar as the Warriors vs the Hornets I was up 3 they had the ball with 15 seconds left only to dribble the clock down to 2 seconds for a pass underneath for a dunk...so disappointing...

                          Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
                          I mentioned a similar observation not too long ago. It actually appeared to have regressed at the time compared to after the first few patches were released. Seems like it is still an issue. I hope they do something about this in the next and most likely final patch.

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                          • Shakedowncapo
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 4031

                            #403
                            Re: NBA Live 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions Here

                            Will I see all these differences with how teams play in season mode, rather than just exhibition mode where I know synergy is on? I just want to play 82 games and see how the different teams play ball.

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                            • rudyjuly2
                              Cade Cunningham
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 14813

                              #404
                              Re: NBA Live 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions Here

                              Originally posted by Shakedowncapo
                              Will I see all these differences with how teams play in season mode, rather than just exhibition mode where I know synergy is on? I just want to play 82 games and see how the different teams play ball.
                              Absolutely.

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                              • Shakedowncapo
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 4031

                                #405
                                Re: NBA Live 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions Here

                                Originally posted by rudyjuly2
                                Absolutely.
                                Fantastic.

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