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  • SonicMage
    NBA Ratings Wizard
    • Oct 2002
    • 3544

    #16
    Re: For those who are going to change ratings immediately...

    Originally posted by knickstorm
    i already had a post where i compared end of season stats to ratings and they don't match. Obviously the guy didnt know what he was talking about.
    No, actually some ratings are determined from previous season stats and I can prove it. Just not all of them.
    NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

    Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
    Link to Ratings 1996-2017
    Link to Ratings 1973-1996
    Link to Ratings All-time

    Discussion found here

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    • SonicMage
      NBA Ratings Wizard
      • Oct 2002
      • 3544

      #17
      Re: For those who are going to change ratings immediately...

      Originally posted by knickstorm
      i already had a post where i compared end of season stats to ratings and they don't match. Obviously the guy didnt know what he was talking about.
      No, actually some ratings are determined from previous season stats and I can prove it. Just not all of them.
      NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

      Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
      Link to Ratings 1996-2017
      Link to Ratings 1973-1996
      Link to Ratings All-time

      Discussion found here

      Comment

      • GILATEEN
        Banned
        • Oct 2002
        • 2855

        #18
        Re: For those who are going to change ratings immediately...

        im going to edit EVERYBODY!!!!

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        • GILATEEN
          Banned
          • Oct 2002
          • 2855

          #19
          Re: For those who are going to change ratings immediately...

          im going to edit EVERYBODY!!!!

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          • Court_vision
            Banned
            • Oct 2002
            • 8290

            #20
            Re: For those who are going to change ratings immediately...

            [QUOTE=Sonicmage]Dunk, Jump, Speed, Quickness, Dribbling, Primacy. These are the main categories that myself and others have been complaining about being wrong, and they are also the categories NOT BASED OFF STATS. And its not like theyre a couple points off. We're talking about huge differences with many popular players that any mildly hardcore fan of the NBA could point out right away.


            QUOTE]

            Absolutely correct.

            "Inside scoring" is a matter of opinion also. Look at the top 20...


            Antonio Davis above Yao Ming seems crazy...Keon Clark has no post game...Pau Gasol's already got ten times more post moves than the Davis boys have ever had ...Mutumbo has no post game...

            Things like this aren't hard to fix.

            O'Neal Shaquille
            Wallace Rasheed
            O'Neal Jermaine
            Garnett Kevin
            Brand Elton
            Davis Antonio
            Ilgauskas Zydrunas
            Ming Yao
            Nowitzki Dirk
            Chandler Tyson
            Gasol Pau
            Davis Dale
            Randolph Zach
            Clark Keon
            Odom Lamar
            Mutombo Dikembe
            Abdur-Rahim Shareef
            Howard Juwan
            LaFrentz Raef

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            • Court_vision
              Banned
              • Oct 2002
              • 8290

              #21
              Re: For those who are going to change ratings immediately...

              [QUOTE=Sonicmage]Dunk, Jump, Speed, Quickness, Dribbling, Primacy. These are the main categories that myself and others have been complaining about being wrong, and they are also the categories NOT BASED OFF STATS. And its not like theyre a couple points off. We're talking about huge differences with many popular players that any mildly hardcore fan of the NBA could point out right away.


              QUOTE]

              Absolutely correct.

              "Inside scoring" is a matter of opinion also. Look at the top 20...


              Antonio Davis above Yao Ming seems crazy...Keon Clark has no post game...Pau Gasol's already got ten times more post moves than the Davis boys have ever had ...Mutumbo has no post game...

              Things like this aren't hard to fix.

              O'Neal Shaquille
              Wallace Rasheed
              O'Neal Jermaine
              Garnett Kevin
              Brand Elton
              Davis Antonio
              Ilgauskas Zydrunas
              Ming Yao
              Nowitzki Dirk
              Chandler Tyson
              Gasol Pau
              Davis Dale
              Randolph Zach
              Clark Keon
              Odom Lamar
              Mutombo Dikembe
              Abdur-Rahim Shareef
              Howard Juwan
              LaFrentz Raef

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              • RoyceBrown
                Banned
                • May 2003
                • 962

                #22
                Re: For those who are going to change ratings immediately...

                What would an EA game be if you didn't have to edit the hell out of the ratings?

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                • RoyceBrown
                  Banned
                  • May 2003
                  • 962

                  #23
                  Re: For those who are going to change ratings immediately...

                  What would an EA game be if you didn't have to edit the hell out of the ratings?

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                  • ps2king
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 1508

                    #24
                    Re: For those who are going to change ratings immediately...

                    Originally posted by RoyceBrown
                    What would an EA game be if you didn't have to edit the hell out of the ratings?
                    I agree 100%

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                    • ps2king
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 1508

                      #25
                      Re: For those who are going to change ratings immediately...

                      Originally posted by RoyceBrown
                      What would an EA game be if you didn't have to edit the hell out of the ratings?
                      I agree 100%

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                      • knickstorm
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 216

                        #26
                        Re: For those who are going to change ratings immediately...

                        Originally posted by Sonicmage
                        No, actually some ratings are determined from previous season stats and I can prove it. Just not all of them.
                        thanks for proving my point, the guy never said anything about previous season stats. THe fact that you cant prove a lot of them shows that they didnt rate people the way they said they did.

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                        • knickstorm
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 216

                          #27
                          Re: For those who are going to change ratings immediately...

                          Originally posted by Sonicmage
                          No, actually some ratings are determined from previous season stats and I can prove it. Just not all of them.
                          thanks for proving my point, the guy never said anything about previous season stats. THe fact that you cant prove a lot of them shows that they didnt rate people the way they said they did.

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                          • Graphik
                            Pr*s*n*r#70460649
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 10582

                            #28
                            Re: For those who are going to change ratings immediately...

                            I actually like the player ratings. I know some players are wrong but I just like the fact that they are low and leaves room for growth. Every since they've implemented the 0-99 system in 2004, I love it. Make each player more distinct from one another.


                            Besides, anyone on here remember that 1000+ post thread from Live 2003 where everyone was fixing player ratings? Now that was crazy.
                            http://neverfollow.biz (Independent Music Group)

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                            • Graphik
                              Pr*s*n*r#70460649
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 10582

                              #29
                              Re: For those who are going to change ratings immediately...

                              I actually like the player ratings. I know some players are wrong but I just like the fact that they are low and leaves room for growth. Every since they've implemented the 0-99 system in 2004, I love it. Make each player more distinct from one another.


                              Besides, anyone on here remember that 1000+ post thread from Live 2003 where everyone was fixing player ratings? Now that was crazy.
                              http://neverfollow.biz (Independent Music Group)

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                              • CMH
                                Making you famous
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 26203

                                #30
                                Re: For those who are going to change ratings immediately...

                                When the players play well out of the box (with the exception of sliders) people are going to realize that the rating system is fine.

                                Maybe some players shouldn't be lower in 3pt field goal rating than another player, but the truth is that everything is arguable. I could argue that Walker deserves to have a better 3pt rating than Dirk (I won't because in my opinion that would be silly, but I bet someone else could...and I might anyway if someone wants to challenge it just for the hell of it).

                                Anyway, we already know that one rating can be affected by other ratings. Perhaps the reason why one player is rated higher in 3pt field goals is because their other ratings make sure that their field goal percentage will still end up lower than another player with a lower 3pt rating.

                                But, I see people saying that they are going to bump ratings by 10+ points. I find it laughable. For some reason people still can't grasp the fact that 50-99 isn't 1-99. I still see the argument (especially on the IGN Boards) that a player with a rating below 50 doesn't belong in the NBA.

                                On a 50-99 ratings, yes. On a 1-99 ratings, no. I mean, why is it so hard to grasp that there are 50 extra points to play with? I don't understand why people make something so simple so complicated.
                                "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                                "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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