Few questions about the game of basketball

[bachelor]

Re: Few questions about the game of basketball

I could be wrong but I dont think loose ball fouls and over-the-back fouls count as team fouls. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[bachelor]

Re: Few questions about the game of basketball

I could be wrong but I dont think loose ball fouls and over-the-back fouls count as team fouls. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[vinny]

Re: Few questions about the game of basketball

I could be wrong but I dont think loose ball fouls and over-the-back fouls count as team fouls. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, thats what I was thinking of. I will look into your problem eurodawg over the night and get back to U in the morning.

[vinny]

Re: Few questions about the game of basketball

I could be wrong but I dont think loose ball fouls and over-the-back fouls count as team fouls. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, thats what I was thinking of. I will look into your problem eurodawg over the night and get back to U in the morning.

[Eurodawg]

Re: Few questions about the game of basketball

ok thanks

[Eurodawg]

Re: Few questions about the game of basketball

ok thanks

[vinny]

Re: Few questions about the game of basketball

All right. I made a joint collaboration with Live and ESPN to try to figure it out.


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NBA LIVE 2005 (toronto raptors)

Salary Cap: 43.84 million

Team Salary: 60.18 million

Cap Room: -16.34 million

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ESPN NBA 2k5 (toronto raptors)

Salary Cap: 41.00 million

Team salary: 60.84 million

Staff Cost: 6.72 million

Total Cost: 67.56 million

Max allowed: 82.00 million

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Then in ESPN I did some experiments:

with the above listed I tried to sign a player, it said

-Do you wish to sign a player up to the exception of 2.95 million.

I did this and then It wouldn't let me sign another player, except for

-You may always sign a player for the league minimum of 325 thousand.

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So to piece this all together I would say that Live lets you sign past the cap up to the amount that would be allowed in coach/staff signing.

[vinny]

Re: Few questions about the game of basketball

All right. I made a joint collaboration with Live and ESPN to try to figure it out.


__________________________________________________ ____________________________________
NBA LIVE 2005 (toronto raptors)

Salary Cap: 43.84 million

Team Salary: 60.18 million

Cap Room: -16.34 million

__________________________________________________ ____________________________________

ESPN NBA 2k5 (toronto raptors)

Salary Cap: 41.00 million

Team salary: 60.84 million

Staff Cost: 6.72 million

Total Cost: 67.56 million

Max allowed: 82.00 million

__________________________________________________ ____________________________________

Then in ESPN I did some experiments:

with the above listed I tried to sign a player, it said

-Do you wish to sign a player up to the exception of 2.95 million.

I did this and then It wouldn't let me sign another player, except for

-You may always sign a player for the league minimum of 325 thousand.

__________________________________________________ ____________________________________

So to piece this all together I would say that Live lets you sign past the cap up to the amount that would be allowed in coach/staff signing.

[SonicMage]

Re: Few questions about the game of basketball

4- I don't get much the franchise/salary cap thing of the NBA. I understood the salary cap rule of the NFL (due to playing to Madden several years) But how come a team can play over the salary cap? And how can I sign a star player when i am over the cap?

I can tell you some things about how the real NBA salary cap works, but I warn you, Live still doesnt have every single thing yet.

The NBA works on whats called a "soft" salary cap. This means youre allowed to be over this cap at any point. BUT, in the current collective bargaining agreement, there is also a second cap that is higher than the salary cap called the luxury cap. If a team surpasses this higher cap, and the NBA doesnt make a certain amount of money from ticket sales, merchandising, etc. in a given season that is calculated as a percentage of BRI (basketball-related income), then a luxury tax kicks into effect and the owner of each team above the luxury limit has to pay a tax equal to the exact amount that they are over the luxury cap. Most owners avoid the luxury cap like a plague, but some owners have some pretty open wallets (Dallas, Portland, New York). These caps only apply to the salaries of players, by the way.

Now, how can an NBA team sign a good player in the offseason if they are still above the cap at the end of the season? The answer is exceptions. There are several exceptions that teams can use:

Larry Bird exception - A team can go over the cap as far as they want to when resigning any player that had been under contract for at least 3 years , even if they had recently been traded from another team and are under the same contract.

Another common way teams keep their good players is by extending their contracts before they run out. In the current real NBA, Kirilenko, Cassell, and Sprewell are all negotiating to get contract extensions before the deadline to do so in a week or so.

Mid-level exception - This one is a biggie, IMO, and something missing from Live that has made realistic franchise transactions in the series to this point impossible. If a team is still over the cap heading into the offseason, and most usually are, they are eligible to use about 5 million dollars called the midlevel exception to sign free agents from other teams. They can use it all on one player or break it up for multiple players, as they wish.

Minimum salary players - A team can go over the cap to sign a player for minimum salary, which is calculated based on how many years that player has been in the league. Usually a team will have about 20 or so players on its roster during training camp and the preseason and then will cut players who have unguaranteed minimum salary contracts until they have 15 left (12 active), which is the maximum they are allowed to have on opening day. Typically, youll see 3 to 5 minimum salary players still left on each team on opening day, mostly scrubs.

The rule about going over the cap to sign players for the minimum has been the cause of major bugs in dynasty mode of Lives past. Live would allow all the CPU teams to sign all the best free agents at minimum salaries during the offseason, but not let the user to do the same. I mean you could still sign these free agents at realistic amounts, but they wont sign for the minimum with the user like they would for the CPU. I think this problem has been addressed and fixed in this years Live, however, with their new contract negotiation system.

How come when i get rid of a player my total of money spent on salaries doesn't get lower?

The waiver system. When you release a player, you are still responsible for that player's salary against your cap unless he is signed by another team within a certain amount of time called the "waiver period". After this period of time is up, if another team signs the released player, the original team is still responsible for the old contract.

I hope all this helped, I know all this stuff can be confusing. It was written by lawyers and agents, what do you expect?

Theres a fantastic full FAQ about how the current NBA salary system works here

Happy learning!

[SonicMage]

Re: Few questions about the game of basketball

4- I don't get much the franchise/salary cap thing of the NBA. I understood the salary cap rule of the NFL (due to playing to Madden several years) But how come a team can play over the salary cap? And how can I sign a star player when i am over the cap?

I can tell you some things about how the real NBA salary cap works, but I warn you, Live still doesnt have every single thing yet.

The NBA works on whats called a "soft" salary cap. This means youre allowed to be over this cap at any point. BUT, in the current collective bargaining agreement, there is also a second cap that is higher than the salary cap called the luxury cap. If a team surpasses this higher cap, and the NBA doesnt make a certain amount of money from ticket sales, merchandising, etc. in a given season that is calculated as a percentage of BRI (basketball-related income), then a luxury tax kicks into effect and the owner of each team above the luxury limit has to pay a tax equal to the exact amount that they are over the luxury cap. Most owners avoid the luxury cap like a plague, but some owners have some pretty open wallets (Dallas, Portland, New York). These caps only apply to the salaries of players, by the way.

Now, how can an NBA team sign a good player in the offseason if they are still above the cap at the end of the season? The answer is exceptions. There are several exceptions that teams can use:

Larry Bird exception - A team can go over the cap as far as they want to when resigning any player that had been under contract for at least 3 years , even if they had recently been traded from another team and are under the same contract.

Another common way teams keep their good players is by extending their contracts before they run out. In the current real NBA, Kirilenko, Cassell, and Sprewell are all negotiating to get contract extensions before the deadline to do so in a week or so.

Mid-level exception - This one is a biggie, IMO, and something missing from Live that has made realistic franchise transactions in the series to this point impossible. If a team is still over the cap heading into the offseason, and most usually are, they are eligible to use about 5 million dollars called the midlevel exception to sign free agents from other teams. They can use it all on one player or break it up for multiple players, as they wish.

Minimum salary players - A team can go over the cap to sign a player for minimum salary, which is calculated based on how many years that player has been in the league. Usually a team will have about 20 or so players on its roster during training camp and the preseason and then will cut players who have unguaranteed minimum salary contracts until they have 15 left (12 active), which is the maximum they are allowed to have on opening day. Typically, youll see 3 to 5 minimum salary players still left on each team on opening day, mostly scrubs.

The rule about going over the cap to sign players for the minimum has been the cause of major bugs in dynasty mode of Lives past. Live would allow all the CPU teams to sign all the best free agents at minimum salaries during the offseason, but not let the user to do the same. I mean you could still sign these free agents at realistic amounts, but they wont sign for the minimum with the user like they would for the CPU. I think this problem has been addressed and fixed in this years Live, however, with their new contract negotiation system.

How come when i get rid of a player my total of money spent on salaries doesn't get lower?

The waiver system. When you release a player, you are still responsible for that player's salary against your cap unless he is signed by another team within a certain amount of time called the "waiver period". After this period of time is up, if another team signs the released player, the original team is still responsible for the old contract.

I hope all this helped, I know all this stuff can be confusing. It was written by lawyers and agents, what do you expect?

Theres a fantastic full FAQ about how the current NBA salary system works here

Happy learning!

[Eurodawg]

Re: Few questions about the game of basketball

Okay thanks all!

So if I want to sign my created player I'll have to

- Trade big salary players for nothing

or

-Sign him for the minimum (which I am pretty sure he won't accept)

I just don't want to go in roster, put him in my team and start my franchise cuz that would be lame.

[Eurodawg]

Re: Few questions about the game of basketball

Okay thanks all!

So if I want to sign my created player I'll have to

- Trade big salary players for nothing

or

-Sign him for the minimum (which I am pretty sure he won't accept)

I just don't want to go in roster, put him in my team and start my franchise cuz that would be lame.