The reason CPU PG's get low assists...

[Court_vision]

Hadn't read all the posts here for a few days...just noticed there's so many "why don't the CPU PG's get assists" and "make some sliders to fix them" etc etc.

The reason the CPU PG assists are so low is due to two main flaws in the game:

1. No fast breaks...meaning no 'easy assists'.

2. No real play sets...meaning no one ever catches and shoots.

If Kidd passes to Ron Mercer in 'real' life...he catches and shoots. Assist to Kidd.

In LIVE...the cpu player never catches and shoots. They always hold the ball a moment, do some freestyle or take a step...then shoot.

That equates to no assist to the passer.

It's that simple. You won't get decent assist numbers without fast breaks and play books.

You'll see nice passing assists in March Madness though

[Miles_Yuhas]

Re: The reason CPU PG's get low assists...

Your right. I never thought of that but your right. The CPU never runs the break which in the NBA results in an assist on the play like at least 90% of the time. And, if your team plays good off-ball defense (Not get burned on cuts, staying with your man, etc.) then the CPU usally just does isolation plays.

I don't see why people are so mad at this though. Do people not realize that this is the result of the CPU getting the ball to the stars a lot. They really try hard to score with the guys that should be scoring, so the CPU doesn't get many assists. So, with the absense of playbooks and fastbreaks, the CPU just doesn't get assists.

It's really, is actually okay with me because the CPU scores with the right guys.

[Miles_Yuhas]

Re: The reason CPU PG's get low assists...

Your right. I never thought of that but your right. The CPU never runs the break which in the NBA results in an assist on the play like at least 90% of the time. And, if your team plays good off-ball defense (Not get burned on cuts, staying with your man, etc.) then the CPU usally just does isolation plays.

I don't see why people are so mad at this though. Do people not realize that this is the result of the CPU getting the ball to the stars a lot. They really try hard to score with the guys that should be scoring, so the CPU doesn't get many assists. So, with the absense of playbooks and fastbreaks, the CPU just doesn't get assists.

It's really, is actually okay with me because the CPU scores with the right guys.

[poster]

Re: The reason CPU PG's get low assists...

That is why I am looking forward to March Madness, real plays. Hopefully the assist total will rise in that game.

[poster]

Re: The reason CPU PG's get low assists...

That is why I am looking forward to March Madness, real plays. Hopefully the assist total will rise in that game.

[Court_vision]

Re: The reason CPU PG's get low assists...

Your right. I never thought of that but your right. The CPU never runs the break which in the NBA results in an assist on the play like at least 90% of the time. And, if your team plays good off-ball defense (Not get burned on cuts, staying with your man, etc.) then the CPU usally just does isolation plays.

I don't see why people are so mad at this though. Do people not realize that this is the result of the CPU getting the ball to the stars a lot. They really try hard to score with the guys that should be scoring, so the CPU doesn't get many assists. So, with the absense of playbooks and fastbreaks, the CPU just doesn't get assists.

It's really, is actually okay with me because the CPU scores with the right guys.

Yes and no...

Yeah, it's cool Kobe and LeBron get it...ISO, step back...drive...pull up fade away etc.

No...in that, Michael Redd...Rip...Reggie etc all should be catching and shooting.

I just played a game v Orlando and Turk had 14 points at the end of the first quarter...I checked the Magic stats and Steve Francis, who was passing it to him, had ZERO assists.

Turk should be catching and shooting etc...not putting the ball on the floor every time.

The lack of plays means every SG plays like Kobe...ie, the SG is the entire offense at the top of the key etc...

This games great for games v LA...great for games v Miami...

But it sux pretty badly IMO for games v The Bucks, Pistons, Seattle, New York etc etc...all teams who run plays / have catch and shoot type guards...

[Court_vision]

Re: The reason CPU PG's get low assists...

Your right. I never thought of that but your right. The CPU never runs the break which in the NBA results in an assist on the play like at least 90% of the time. And, if your team plays good off-ball defense (Not get burned on cuts, staying with your man, etc.) then the CPU usally just does isolation plays.

I don't see why people are so mad at this though. Do people not realize that this is the result of the CPU getting the ball to the stars a lot. They really try hard to score with the guys that should be scoring, so the CPU doesn't get many assists. So, with the absense of playbooks and fastbreaks, the CPU just doesn't get assists.

It's really, is actually okay with me because the CPU scores with the right guys.

Yes and no...

Yeah, it's cool Kobe and LeBron get it...ISO, step back...drive...pull up fade away etc.

No...in that, Michael Redd...Rip...Reggie etc all should be catching and shooting.

I just played a game v Orlando and Turk had 14 points at the end of the first quarter...I checked the Magic stats and Steve Francis, who was passing it to him, had ZERO assists.

Turk should be catching and shooting etc...not putting the ball on the floor every time.

The lack of plays means every SG plays like Kobe...ie, the SG is the entire offense at the top of the key etc...

This games great for games v LA...great for games v Miami...

But it sux pretty badly IMO for games v The Bucks, Pistons, Seattle, New York etc etc...all teams who run plays / have catch and shoot type guards...

[frank70]

Re: The reason CPU PG's get low assists...

Maybe we should look at the scoring area of the players. Almost every SG has area 6. Some have area 2. I believe that 2 is more of a pure shooter. I mentioned the problem in another thread. The CPU players have no patience. If they are getting the ball they put the ball on the floor too much and too fast. The good players look to score - they don't look at the teammates. Played against Toronto earlier today. Vince Carter and Jalen Rose never pass the ball - no matter if you are using team playsets. Catch and shoot is there in my games. But most of the time the "stars" (PG,SG,SF) are driving when getting the ball and pulling off a shot.

There are several dbf-files we could look into. Maybe scoring area in players dbf (cause lowering primacy to 0 had no effect). Maybe teams.dbf There are some playsets for the teams.

The cpu teams has to pass the ball more. That is the key for getting more assists. More patience by the go-to-guys. As it is now there are little assists because there is not much of team play, more of getting the ball to the go-to-guy and he does his one-on-one.

[frank70]

Re: The reason CPU PG's get low assists...

Maybe we should look at the scoring area of the players. Almost every SG has area 6. Some have area 2. I believe that 2 is more of a pure shooter. I mentioned the problem in another thread. The CPU players have no patience. If they are getting the ball they put the ball on the floor too much and too fast. The good players look to score - they don't look at the teammates. Played against Toronto earlier today. Vince Carter and Jalen Rose never pass the ball - no matter if you are using team playsets. Catch and shoot is there in my games. But most of the time the "stars" (PG,SG,SF) are driving when getting the ball and pulling off a shot.

There are several dbf-files we could look into. Maybe scoring area in players dbf (cause lowering primacy to 0 had no effect). Maybe teams.dbf There are some playsets for the teams.

The cpu teams has to pass the ball more. That is the key for getting more assists. More patience by the go-to-guys. As it is now there are little assists because there is not much of team play, more of getting the ball to the go-to-guy and he does his one-on-one.

[EmekaConn]

Re: The reason CPU PG's get low assists...

^ Even if, most of us have console NBA Live, not PC and we can't change stuff like that

[EmekaConn]

Re: The reason CPU PG's get low assists...

^ Even if, most of us have console NBA Live, not PC and we can't change stuff like that

[Jistic]

Re: The reason CPU PG's get low assists...

Most PG's in this game try to take you off the dribble instead of passing the ball inside anyway. That's a huge reason there's lower assists.

I don't get many assists from fast breaks, but I get a ton running pick and roll, etc. THE Cpu just wants to break you down and take it himself.

[Jistic]

Re: The reason CPU PG's get low assists...

Most PG's in this game try to take you off the dribble instead of passing the ball inside anyway. That's a huge reason there's lower assists.

I don't get many assists from fast breaks, but I get a ton running pick and roll, etc. THE Cpu just wants to break you down and take it himself.

[Court_vision]

Re: The reason CPU PG's get low assists...

THE Cpu just wants to break you down and take it himself.

It's classic EA really...

No mid range game last year...so instead of 'fixing it' with play books, guys shooting J's off screens...etc. Ie really fixing it...

They just changed the code...so that every PG and SG who last year pro hopped to the hoop, now shoots a 17 footer instead.

Classic EA

[Court_vision]

Re: The reason CPU PG's get low assists...

THE Cpu just wants to break you down and take it himself.

It's classic EA really...

No mid range game last year...so instead of 'fixing it' with play books, guys shooting J's off screens...etc. Ie really fixing it...

They just changed the code...so that every PG and SG who last year pro hopped to the hoop, now shoots a 17 footer instead.

Classic EA