Edit player feature...is it just me???

[seanhazz1]

Re: Edit player feature...is it just me???

What? you guys don't like SYNERGY?

But yeah, not only does the Live team focus on what their analytics tell them are the most used / most popular features, but EA Sports focuses on games that their analytics tell them make money. NBA Live is the red headed stepchild of that company.

I think Synergy, in theory is awesome, to be able to play against LBJ or KD, hours after he just dropped a triple double in a game, is a very enticing idea to any sports gamer, especially those looking for a more realistic sports simulation experience.

Synergy implementation has had mixed results in the community, but personally, I'll still support it if they can provide the DAILY updates as advertised originally.

On player editing, I agree, and to touch what was briefly mentioned above, if only a handful in the community are actually performing player editing (as their statistical analysis most likely showed) while thousands more are patiently waiting for those perfect roster edits from just a few (ie. MLB the Show OSFM), what is the reason for EA to not provide those edits themselves?
From a cost perspective, the edit feature was used X times, over Y audience for Z usage %. It can't be very high even when they had it in, for the reason stated above.

They might not deem it not worthy enough at this time from lack of usage, lack of a strong customer base, lack of support, funding, or any other reason they concluded, and it could have been one of the many reasoning thoughts behind Synergy's implementation.

Example: XBOX recently announced ONLY 2% of the 26 million units sold use backwards compatibility (520000 units). That large number warrants the "added" feature via consumer request, cost wise. In contrast Live sold 8k units compared to 1 million units against the competition last September, the numbers just aren't there....yet.

For those on the fence but want a better game, it sucks to say, but you'd HAVE to buy it, to support its present future, and to help solidify its continued progression, which could include many community requested features.

I don't know how much of the other EA products fund LIVE's development, but EA can't continue entering 3 legged horses in the NBA race either. It needs to stand on its own, as fun, authentic, unique, and different, and very soon.

I remain hopeful regardless.

[cthurt]

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I think Synergy, in theory is awesome, to be able to play against LBJ or KD, hours after he just dropped a triple double in a game, is a very enticing idea to any sports gamer, especially those looking for a more realistic sports simulation experience.

Synergy implementation has had mixed results in the community, but personally, I'll still support it if they can provide the DAILY updates as advertised originally.

On player editing, I agree, and to touch what was briefly mentioned above, if only a handful in the community are actually performing player editing (as their statistical analysis most likely showed) while thousands more are patiently waiting for those perfect roster edits from just a few (ie. MLB the Show OSFM), what is the reason for EA to not provide those edits themselves?
From a cost perspective, the edit feature was used X times, over Y audience for Z usage %. It can't be very high even when they had it in, for the reason stated above.

They might not deem it not worthy enough at this time from lack of usage, lack of a strong customer base, lack of support, funding, or any other reason they concluded, and it could have been one of the many reasoning thoughts behind Synergy's implementation.

Example: XBOX recently announced ONLY 2% of the 26 million units sold use backwards compatibility (520000 units). That large number warrants the "added" feature via consumer request, cost wise. In contrast Live sold 8k units compared to 1 million units against the competition last September, the numbers just aren't there....yet.

For those on the fence but want a better game, it sucks to say, but you'd HAVE to buy it, to support its present future, and to help solidify its continued progression, which could include many community requested features.

I don't know how much of the other EA products fund LIVE's development, but EA can't continue entering 3 legged horses in the NBA race either. It needs to stand on its own, as fun, authentic, unique, and different, and very soon.

I remain hopeful regardless.

Everything you said with the analytics makes sense but for a struggle game like Live they should look into any and every avenue to bring customers back to this game nothing can be to small when they literally have to win customers support back, esp. when the competition is already providing things that your game isn't. Taking an extra year just to work on "popular" modes or features when your game is literally one or two more bad years from being done all together probably is a waste IMO they need to come fully featured and fully decked out with game mode options similar to the competition only the die hard Live fans would buy this game for the same price as the other game without feeling slighted due to them saying things like "we will work on player editing next year", just to use an example. We are tired of games esp. LIVE saying anything about what they plan to do in the future when the same things have been asked for, countless years now.

And this isn't an attack on you bro just tired of expecting the best from these guys to only get slighted in the end, but nothing's confirmed yet so hopefully soon this subject matter will be talked about and answered.

[iFnotWhyNoT]

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Every sports game now and in the future needs full customization, from sliders to tendencies and the ability to share those customization's. Like someone said earlier "the toothpaste is out of the tube", you can't go backwards now, we've experienced it and built gaming communities through sharing, discussing, and playing many different ways that enhanced our playing experience. I hope it's in...it better be in.

[dilladawg4]

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There's NO way EA would do this AGAIN...I keep giving these jokers my money (all be it after the game drops to like $20-$15-$10) bit I still give them a chance. The ONLY thing I was hoping for was for them to allow edits. This is a DEAL BREAKER. call it petty if you like but I'll passon this one if thats the case.

[Playmakers]

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They gone piss a lot of customers off if this feature is not in the game especially after all the complaints with it being left out of Live 16.

This is a absolute deal breaker for many fans who might have otherwise purchased the game despite other issues.

I hope this isn't the case because we are in 2017 not 1997.......PLayer editing is a absolute must have in todays sports games

There's no way they can try to pull this crap again can they?????

[jfsolo]

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I think anything that doesn't have to do with my player mode , my team , or basic in gameplay 5 on 5 probably didn't get touched.

Let's be honest those are he least played/touched modes. Don't expect any drastic changes there.

Just go on YouTube all you see is park this , park that. $$$

FYI I do want more editing options .

I think you're 100% on point here. I think they're probably hoping that the people who care about editing will buy the game because of their nostalgia for the brand, or maybe the gameplay, but their target audience is definite those who are going to play modes that can generate additional revenue.

[vtcrb]

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I think you're 100% on point here. I think they're probably hoping that the people who care about editing will buy the game because of their nostalgia for the brand, or maybe the gameplay, but their target audience is definite those who are going to play modes that can generate additional revenue.

So you copy the other game gimmick modes but then leave out customization options? Why wouldn't people just stay with the other game? How did that nostalgia work last year? Pretty simple they either go all out OR look for other jobs because the series will get cancelled or new development team brought in. People seem to,doubt the number of buyers that customization options bring in. Let's just say it was 20,000 people. That is more than double,last year's reported sales. And once those 20,000 start making rosters and players it will attract even more people. Check out the YouTube views and roster downloads from the other game when Roster projects are made. Those numbers speak for themselves.

[Macs Power]

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So you copy the other game gimmick modes but then leave out customization options? Why wouldn't people just stay with the other game? How did that nostalgia work last year? Pretty simple they either go all out OR look for other jobs because the series will get cancelled or new development team brought in. People seem to,doubt the number of buyers that customization options bring in. Let's just say it was 20,000 people. That is more than double,last year's reported sales. And once those 20,000 start making rosters and players it will attract even more people. Check out the YouTube views and roster downloads from the other game when Roster projects are made. Those numbers speak for themselves.

Customisation is great, no doubt. But I hop you don't think they just sold 8,000 copies altogether? Because that's not what happened

[cthurt]

Re: Edit player feature...is it just me???

So you copy the other game gimmick modes but then leave out customization options? Why wouldn't people just stay with the other game? How did that nostalgia work last year? Pretty simple they either go all out OR look for other jobs because the series will get cancelled or new development team brought in. People seem to,doubt the number of buyers that customization options bring in. Let's just say it was 20,000 people. That is more than double,last year's reported sales. And once those 20,000 start making rosters and players it will attract even more people. Check out the YouTube views and roster downloads from the other game when Roster projects are made. Those numbers speak for themselves.

PREACH!!!

I know the edit player feature is small on the big scale of things but me personally I would buy Live just to support them and keep competition going if they added small things like that rather then trying to attract me with back of the box features. LIVE really don't have a customer base that they can say we know they will buy our product every year regardless like say a Madden does so Live needs to try to bring things to their game that offline and online gamers can enjoy and for us offline gamers rosters customization is damn near number one priority outside of gameplay of course.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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Ea could release a survey .

[snocone]

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I feel like every year, we go they couldn't release the game without editing, but every year it happens again.

I mean, I understand that making games is tough, that editing requires them to handle a ton of stuff that they don't have to with defaults, but we've been asking for it for years. I feel like I just don't know who they are targeting with these games, they don't seem to have the features to try to attract the hardcore users, but they don't have the reputation to attract casual fans.

I mean, maybe we're wrong, but that answer doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.

[TecmoZack]

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I still think it will be in.


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[seanhazz1]

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So you copy the other game gimmick modes but then leave out customization options? Why wouldn't people just stay with the other game? How did that nostalgia work last year? Pretty simple they either go all out OR look for other jobs because the series will get cancelled or new development team brought in. People seem to,doubt the number of buyers that customization options bring in. Let's just say it was 20,000 people. That is more than double,last year's reported sales. And once those 20,000 start making rosters and players it will attract even more people. Check out the YouTube views and roster downloads from the other game when Roster projects are made. Those numbers speak for themselves.

Again without the money these features are going to be funded from outside sources. When a project can't fund itself, it will be limited by the actual investors in many ways.

Copy? The OTHER game performed copy ninjutsu. It stole features and developers to help become what it is. Some for the better, some not, regardless, the result was a complete market takeover in the genre.

It ONLY costs $1.25 in a piggy bank, per week to support Live 18 for a year from each of us at current pricing. A candy bar....or a simple preorder.

Perhaps EA is as indifferent about our "needed" feature, as many are about preordering before seeing it in motion, and not willing to provide that for 4% of its base(using your 20k and current sales) at this time, especially with more successful projects on the horizon. We also know through forums and files that there aren't 20k roster editors out there between Live, 2k and MLB The Show combined, one of the possible reasons I stated previously for omission. Those other two have the financial support through sales to support that feature's continued development. The capability IS there in other EA games which is why it's bothersome here.

Go look at what RSI is doing with Star Citizen through crowd funding. Amazing game, huge budget, remains playable in parts but officially unreleased. Sports gaming fans and Live fans to a smaller extent, don't appear willing to pony up to get a product like that, or partake in a process like that, for a variety of reasons, but from a consumer view and most importantly, trust, and that IS EA's fault imo.

I am all for editing and customization, but it has to be done properly, within the current/future ecosystem, and not just a "bare bones" mechanic that appeases a minority of users.

Personally I feel it could introduce new bugs in its first implementation, to previously working content, at the cost of much better tested features or already funded capabilities.

I remain optimistic regardless of how likely or unlikely some aspects of NBA Live 18 will be revealed/developed, and it's a day one purchase for me,.....the support thing. I'll be paying close attention this weekend. I want to quit chasing that Live 95/Coach K high from EA basketball games.

......and I hope they announce an EA Baseball game someday soon


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[GisherJohn24]

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Roster share and legends is needed too

[vtcrb]

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Again without the money these features are going to be funded from outside sources. When a project can't fund itself, it will be limited by the actual investors in many ways.

Copy? The OTHER game performed copy ninjutsu. It stole features and developers to help become what it is. Some for the better, some not, regardless, the result was a complete market takeover in the genre.

It ONLY costs $1.25 in a piggy bank, per week to support Live 18 for a year from each of us at current pricing. A candy bar....or a simple preorder.

Perhaps EA is as indifferent about our "needed" feature, as many are about preordering before seeing it in motion, and not willing to provide that for 4% of its base(using your 20k and current sales) at this time, especially with more successful projects on the horizon. We also know through forums and files that there aren't 20k roster editors out there between Live, 2k and MLB The Show combined, one of the possible reasons I stated previously for omission. Those other two have the financial support through sales to support that feature's continued development. The capability IS there in other EA games which is why it's bothersome here.

Go look at what RSI is doing with Star Citizen through crowd funding. Amazing game, huge budget, remains playable in parts but officially unreleased. Sports gaming fans and Live fans to a smaller extent, don't appear willing to pony up to get a product like that, or partake in a process like that, for a variety of reasons, but from a consumer view and most importantly, trust, and that IS EA's fault imo.

I am all for editing and customization, but it has to be done properly, within the current/future ecosystem, and not just a "bare bones" mechanic that appeases a minority of users.

Personally I feel it could introduce new bugs in its first implementation, to previously working content, at the cost of much better tested features or already funded capabilities.

I remain optimistic regardless of how likely or unlikely some aspects of NBA Live 18 will be revealed/developed, and it's a day one purchase for me,.....the support thing. I'll be paying close attention this weekend. I want to quit chasing that Live 95/Coach K high from EA basketball games.

......and I hope they announce an EA Baseball game someday soon


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All valid points, all I know is when NBA Live had customization options there sales were vastly larger. It gives guys options when playing the game. The other game has College Rosters, High School Rosters, FIBA Rosters and more.

Guess we will have to wait and see.