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  • Rockie_Fresh88
    Lockdown Defender
    • Oct 2011
    • 9621

    #61
    Re: Ps4 vs ps4 pro version of live 18

    Originally posted by sudanmalkovich
    why would I have a pro without a 4k tv?

    and I don't care about outputting resolution, doesn't make any difference, doesn't get rid of jaggies, doesn't help anything.
    it is just simple upscaling and you get input delay.

    when I said 1080p, I was talking about its native resolution.
    simple upscaling from 1080p doesn't help anything.
    it just makes pixels bigger and give'em an image sharpening with noises and increased input lag.

    what I want from pro support is native 4k like 2k17.
    the developer's saying the support is comming in future, that means the demo is not pro supported.
    the machine's just outputting that way so that it can be seen on a screen.

    way different from officially supported games.
    It's definitely and improvement . Go buy an Xbox one s or OG PS4 real quick and compare lol
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    • Justonepost
      Rookie
      • Nov 2015
      • 482

      #62
      Re: Ps4 vs ps4 pro version of live 18

      Originally posted by sudanmalkovich
      why would I have a pro without a 4k tv?

      and I don't care about outputting resolution, doesn't make any difference, doesn't get rid of jaggies, doesn't help anything.
      it is just simple upscaling and you get input delay.

      when I said 1080p, I was talking about its native resolution.
      simple upscaling from 1080p doesn't help anything.
      it just makes pixels bigger and give'em an image sharpening with noises and increased input lag.

      what I want from pro support is native 4k like 2k17.
      the developer's saying the support is comming in future, that means the demo is not pro supported.
      the machine's just outputting that way so that it can be seen on a screen.

      way different from officially supported games.
      You seem to know very little about gaming and tech so I'll stop here.

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      • sudanmalkovich
        Pro
        • Dec 2016
        • 528

        #63
        Re: Ps4 vs ps4 pro version of live 18

        Originally posted by Justonepost
        You seem to know very little about gaming and tech so I'll stop here.
        oh, mr. tech guy? why don't u teach me then.
        what do u wanna argue about? you're saying it's above 1080p natively?
        then pixel count it for me. what is the resolution?
        it's not pro patched yet and EA's saying the patch is comming. it's all good. what is bothering u?

        I was saying it's not patched yet. what's the problem? what's your point? am I bothering u?

        it might look sharper than og ps4 or xbox cuz it's got additional sharpening effect when being upscaled and I have no idea how it looks on og ps4 but I do know the game's not pro patched.

        what even is the problem.
        Last edited by sudanmalkovich; 08-15-2017, 06:19 AM.

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        • life4eva
          Rookie
          • Sep 2011
          • 71

          #64
          Re: Ps4 vs ps4 pro version of live 18

          Originally posted by sudanmalkovich
          oh, mr. tech guy? why don't u teach me then.
          what do u wanna argue about? you're saying it's above 1080p natively?
          then pixel count it for me. what is the resolution?
          it's not pro patched yet and EA's saying the patch is comming. it's all good. what is bothering u?

          I was saying it's not patched yet. what's the problem? what's your point? am I bothering u?

          it might look sharper than og ps4 or xbox cuz it's got additional sharpening effect when being upscaled and I have no idea how it looks on og ps4 but I do know the game's not pro patched.

          what even is the problem.
          Do you have tools to prove at what native resolution the game is running on, if you don't then you nor anyone can truly comment yet....

          What I do know is the games file was about 4GB larger on PS4, also it's sharper on PS4 PRO vs Xbox One S. Maybe Xbox One S version is running at 900p and currently PS4 version at 1080p.

          Regardless game looks good on Xbox One S and even better on PS4 Pro and just like the recent announcement regarding Madden 18 support for 4K/HDR NBA LIVE 18 will more than likely have this as well

          peace

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          • sudanmalkovich
            Pro
            • Dec 2016
            • 528

            #65
            Re: Ps4 vs ps4 pro version of live 18

            Originally posted by life4eva
            Do you have tools to prove at what native resolution the game is running on, if you don't then you nor anyone can truly comment yet....

            What I do know is the games file was about 4GB larger on PS4, also it's sharper on PS4 PRO vs Xbox One S. Maybe Xbox One S version is running at 900p and currently PS4 version at 1080p.

            Regardless game looks good on Xbox One S and even better on PS4 Pro and just like the recent announcement regarding Madden 18 support for 4K/HDR NBA LIVE 18 will more than likely have this as well

            peace

            NBA Live 18 will support enhanced visuals on PS4 Pro and Xbox One X, but the series might actually come to the Nintendo Switch in the future.



            as I said before, EA is planning for future pro support so it's not supported yet.
            as you may know, it's basically the same graphic as og ps4 if it's not pro supported.
            the boost mode doesn't improve the game's native resolution.

            it may improve loading time.
            UNLOCKED graphical effects may be improved by the boost mode but they're usually locked by developers.

            so if you're saying that it's 1080p on og ps4, it is 1080p native on pro also.
            Last edited by sudanmalkovich; 08-15-2017, 07:19 AM.

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            • Rockie_Fresh88
              Lockdown Defender
              • Oct 2011
              • 9621

              #66
              Re: Ps4 vs ps4 pro version of live 18

              It's not that serious y'all lol . It's just a little cleaner . Nobody saying it's 4k native at 60 fps PS4 pro and 720p 30 fps on OG PS4 lol.

              Boost mode can simply help keep a steady frame rate . In other words help with the choppiness of a game . No patch is needed for that . EA hasn't confirmed or denied if the frame rate is locked.

              But in order to get a native or "checker board " 4k resolution EA needs to drop a patch . Also the PS4 pro loads games quicker on average.

              Something as simple as maintaining a steadier frame rate can make an image look smoother even if the graphics( PS4 pro vs OG PS4 vs Xbox one ) haven't been upgraded yet.

              For example BF4 runs the same on both OG PS4 and PS4 Pro. But if when bombs and explosions are happening everywhere the frame rate would drop on OG PS4. The PS4 pro can handle the explosions etc.. better without chopping the image up.


              Sorry for the long post dawg lol
              Last edited by Rockie_Fresh88; 08-15-2017, 07:49 AM.
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              • sudanmalkovich
                Pro
                • Dec 2016
                • 528

                #67
                Re: Ps4 vs ps4 pro version of live 18

                Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                It's not that serious y'all lol . It's just a little cleaner . Nobody saying it's 4k native at 60 fps PS4 pro and 720p 30 fps on OG PS4 lol.

                Boost mode can simply help keep a steady frame rate . In other words help with the choppiness of a game . No patch is needed for that . EA hasn't confirmed or denied if the frame rate is locked.

                But in order to get a native or "checker board " 4k resolution EA needs to drop a patch . Also the PS4 pro loads games quicker on average.

                Something as simple as maintaining a steadier frame rate can make an image look smoother even if the graphics( PS4 pro vs OG PS4 vs Xbox one ) haven't been upgraded yet.

                For example BF4 runs the same on both OG PS4 and PS4 Pro. But if when bombs and explosions are happening everywhere the frame rate would drop on OG PS4. The PS4 pro can handle the explosions etc.. better without chopping the image up.


                Sorry for the long post dawg lol

                yeah, that was my whole point. I don't understand why some people are offended by that.

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                • Gorilla Glass
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 1139

                  #68
                  Re: Ps4 vs ps4 pro version of live 18

                  Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                  It's not that serious y'all lol . It's just a little cleaner . Nobody saying it's 4k native at 60 fps PS4 pro and 720p 30 fps on OG PS4 lol.

                  Boost mode can simply help keep a steady frame rate . In other words help with the choppiness of a game . No patch is needed for that . EA hasn't confirmed or denied if the frame rate is locked.

                  But in order to get a native or "checker board " 4k resolution EA needs to drop a patch . Also the PS4 pro loads games quicker on average.

                  Something as simple as maintaining a steadier frame rate can make an image look smoother even if the graphics( PS4 pro vs OG PS4 vs Xbox one ) haven't been upgraded yet.

                  For example BF4 runs the same on both OG PS4 and PS4 Pro. But if when bombs and explosions are happening everywhere the frame rate would drop on OG PS4. The PS4 pro can handle the explosions etc.. better without chopping the image up.


                  Sorry for the long post dawg lol
                  It's a little bit more than that between the two systems when it comes to BF1.
                  In fact the Pro does 47% better in Framerate across the board, not just explosions and upscales up to 1440p which is huge. Big differences there guy.




                  Anyways Live 18 is way cleaner on the Pro and runs smoother too.

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                  • sudanmalkovich
                    Pro
                    • Dec 2016
                    • 528

                    #69
                    Re: Ps4 vs ps4 pro version of live 18

                    I've played under either circumstances, boost mode on & off, and didn't see any major improvement.
                    if you compare og ps4 with FHD tv to pro with UHD tv, it's the tv that makes look crisper cause UHD tv handles motion way better than FHD tv. u get less screen blur on UHD tv usually because it's got better panel.

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                    • Gorilla Glass
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 1139

                      #70
                      Re: Ps4 vs ps4 pro version of live 18

                      Originally posted by sudanmalkovich
                      I've played under either circumstances, boost mode on & off, and didn't see any major improvement.
                      if you compare og ps4 with FHD tv to pro with UHD tv, it's the tv that makes look crisper cause UHD tv handles motion way better than FHD tv. u get less screen blur on UHD tv usually because it's got better panel.
                      Reread your post. Interesting stuff and not true. You get better frame from 1080p as of now. That's why games implement a choice between visuals and frame rate in options.

                      Panels do play a role but the best 4K TVs, don't necessarily have the best motion blur processing or response times.
                      Last edited by Gorilla Glass; 08-15-2017, 08:57 AM.

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                      • sudanmalkovich
                        Pro
                        • Dec 2016
                        • 528

                        #71
                        Re: Ps4 vs ps4 pro version of live 18

                        Originally posted by Gorilla Glass
                        Reread your post. Interesting stuff and not true. You get better frame from 1080p as of now. That's why games implement a choice between visuals and frame rate in options.

                        Panels do play a role but the best 4K TVs, don't necessarily have the best motion blur processing or response times.
                        is there any problem?

                        4k tv gets less motion blur than old fhd tv. even without any motion control process like auto motion plus on samsung tv. it's a simple fact.
                        Last edited by sudanmalkovich; 08-15-2017, 09:02 AM.

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                        • Gorilla Glass
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 1139

                          #72
                          Re: Ps4 vs ps4 pro version of live 18

                          Originally posted by sudanmalkovich
                          is there any problem?
                          Not sure what you mean?

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                          • sudanmalkovich
                            Pro
                            • Dec 2016
                            • 528

                            #73
                            Re: Ps4 vs ps4 pro version of live 18

                            Originally posted by Gorilla Glass
                            Not sure what you mean?
                            I added some stuff to the post.

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                            • Gorilla Glass
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 1139

                              #74
                              Re: Ps4 vs ps4 pro version of live 18

                              Originally posted by sudanmalkovich
                              is there any problem?

                              4k tv gets less motion blur than old fhd tv. even without any motion control process like auto motion plus on samsung tv. it's a simple fact.
                              Not a fact because all Tv's aren't created equal. There are some 1080p sets that can stomp some 4K tv's when it comes to performance.

                              Just because you see 4K, don't be fooled. lol

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                              • sudanmalkovich
                                Pro
                                • Dec 2016
                                • 528

                                #75
                                Re: Ps4 vs ps4 pro version of live 18

                                Originally posted by Gorilla Glass
                                Not a fact because all Tv's aren't created equal. There are some 1080p sets that can stomp some 4K tv's when it comes to performance.
                                which tv sets are u comparing?
                                so you've seen it moving on og ps4 with fhd tv, right?
                                Last edited by sudanmalkovich; 08-15-2017, 09:13 AM.

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