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  • Matt23134
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    • Aug 2009
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    #46
    Re: NBA Inside Drive 2004 - snubbed from b/c again

    Originally posted by youvalss
    Cool, thanks for the info. By the way, check out the sliders thread, and someone said he had assigned double team in the paint, so when the CPU players penetrate, they can't go all the way to the hoop. You might want to try it out. Keep updating us
    Will do. I tried a little of the doubling in the paint. It worked ok but then Finley would be wide open on the wing .

    I saw somewhere you had 2K7 for original Xbox. Would you say that is a good sim game?

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    • youvalss
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      • Feb 2007
      • 16601

      #47
      Re: NBA Inside Drive 2004 - snubbed from b/c again

      Originally posted by Matt23134
      Will do. I tried a little of the doubling in the paint. It worked ok but then Finley would be wide open on the wing .

      I saw somewhere you had 2K7 for original Xbox. Would you say that is a good sim game?
      I bought 2K7 for the XBOX several days ago. 2K7 (old-gen, at least) is pure gold! I tweaked the sliders, and listen to this: I played about 3-4 games on Allstar (10-minute quarters) and the score was around 75-85. I lowered the shooting sliders for the CPU and for me so the scores are lower, the CPU plays slower and if I didn't pick up the Mavs and push for up-tempo game, the score would be around 75-80. I'm gonna bump up the defensive awareness for the CPU to make it more challenging, but still I lose. I lost to...forgot who in OT 93-90. Awesome game! The only thing that bugs be, behold(!) is that the CPU hardly ever dunks. I put his dunk and dunk-in-traffic tendencies at 65 and would still dunk maybe once a game, sometimes none. I'm gonna bump it more.
      Another thing that I don't like is that the CPU would back down, but never shoot a hook shot - always take a turn-around/fadeaway shots. I bumped the hook-shot tenency for the CPU to 99, but it didn't help. Oh well, still a good game! I had the CPU shooting 42-44 FG% and I was shooting 45-50 FG%. I think my sliders are close to what I need. One game the CPU and I were shooting about 35-39 FG% during the first half. Just awesome!

      By the way, I went to Blockbuster today and looked for XBOX games but the don't have any. Only next-gen, Wii and PS2. The guy there told me they don't carry it anymore. I'll look for a branch that has Game Rush, maybe they'll have something. Maybe I'll find ID 2004...who knows...
      Last edited by youvalss; 06-13-2010, 03:31 PM.
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      • Matt23134
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        • Aug 2009
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        #48
        Re: NBA Inside Drive 2004 - snubbed from b/c again

        Alright. I'm gonna order 2k7. I don't think I will mind the no dunking thing. I love the mid range game. Hopefully the CPU will shoot some jumpers on me. I may ask you to post your sliders once 2k7 arrives. Are team tendency sliders in the game, and if so, can you tell they make a difference?



        Also, have you tried looking on Amazon for people near you? I know on eBay (Amazon may have this option too. I know you said you're skeptical of eBay) you can sort your search results by the closest item to you. Just something you might want to try if international shipping is what's keeping you from picking up ID 2004 online.

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        • youvalss
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          • Feb 2007
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          #49
          Re: NBA Inside Drive 2004 - snubbed from b/c again

          Originally posted by Matt23134
          Alright. I'm gonna order 2k7. I don't think I will mind the no dunking thing. I love the mid range game. Hopefully the CPU will shoot some jumpers on me. I may ask you to post your sliders once 2k7 arrives. Are team tendency sliders in the game, and if so, can you tell they make a difference?



          Also, have you tried looking on Amazon for people near you? I know on eBay (Amazon may have this option too. I know you said you're skeptical of eBay) you can sort your search results by the closest item to you. Just something you might want to try if international shipping is what's keeping you from picking up ID 2004 online.
          I'm trying not to buy stuff online, but we'll see...

          As for 2K7, you don't need to order it. Just go to almost any Gamestop and pick up a used one for a couple of bucks, just like mine.

          And I bumped up the sliders more for dunking and got 2-3 dunks from Dwight Howard. Yeah, the 2007 D-Howard, before he became what he's today. I'll check the sliders and let you know. You can also look for 2K7 sliders online, I'm sure there are some good ones.
          Last edited by youvalss; 06-13-2010, 11:41 PM.
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          • GaryT531
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            • Jun 2008
            • 1715

            #50
            Re: NBA Inside Drive 2004 - snubbed from b/c again

            NBA Inside Drive 2002 was the reason why I bought an XBOX in January 2002. I remember the player detail in this series was unlike anything I have ever seen before at the time. I remember being really impressed with the graphics in ID 2003 as well.

            By 2004, I was bored with the series. This was probably because NBA Live 2004 was the first good game of the series on last gen (complared to Live 01-03, which were terrible) and I spent a lot of time playing that. NBA 2K4 was crap that year.

            I brought the Inide Drive series out again in Fall 2008, and it was unplayable for me. Still respected the graphics, but it was unplayable for me based on what I've grown accustomed to playing from 2k on current gen.

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            • youvalss
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              • Feb 2007
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              #51
              Re: NBA Inside Drive 2004 - snubbed from b/c again

              Why was it unplayable for you? Can you give some examples?
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              • GaryT531
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                • Jun 2008
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                #52
                Re: NBA Inside Drive 2004 - snubbed from b/c again

                It was unplayable for me because everyone had the same generic shooting styles, layups, dunks, etc..
                It lacked in animations compared to other games of its time, like live 04 and nba 2k4.

                Overall at the time it was an average game in terms of gameplay in my opinion, after playing the 2k series on next gen, it was impossible for me to go back to this.

                give it a shot though if you're into old school games like you said, but don't get your hopes too high. Your experience w/the game may be more positive than mine. You can probably find the game on gamestop.com or ebay without any problems.

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                • youvalss
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                  • Feb 2007
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                  #53
                  Re: NBA Inside Drive 2004 - snubbed from b/c again

                  OK, thanks for the info. As for 2K4, I'd take games from the 90's over this game, probably even Lakers vs Celtics (1989). 2K4 should be an example for how to destroy a video game. 2K4 is the MOST hated basketball game on my list.
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                  • GaryT531
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                    • Jun 2008
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                    #54
                    Re: NBA Inside Drive 2004 - snubbed from b/c again

                    while I agree that 2k4 was awful, it still had more animations than any game in the inside drive series. I am pretty sure about that.

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                    • youvalss
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                      • Feb 2007
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                      #55
                      Re: NBA Inside Drive 2004 - snubbed from b/c again

                      Originally posted by GaryT531
                      while I agree that 2k4 was awful, it still had more animations than any game in the inside drive series. I am pretty sure about that.
                      I'm not sure. 2K4 had about 10 dunks total and not many layup animations, only one shot animation etc... You must be talking about 2K3, which had about 10 times the amount of animations on 2K4.
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                      • GaryT531
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                        • Jun 2008
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                        #56
                        Re: NBA Inside Drive 2004 - snubbed from b/c again

                        either way I found Inside Drive 2004 to pretty much be crap whether the year was 2004 or 2008. nba 2k4 was bad, I agree, but still found that to be a better game than inside drive. If I didn't trade it in to gamestop for one cent back in 08 I would gladly send you my copy for free. i am eager to see what you think of it after all of this, so let us know when you play it.

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                        • youvalss
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                          • Feb 2007
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                          #57
                          Re: NBA Inside Drive 2004 - snubbed from b/c again

                          Well, we'll see...if I can find it. I'm not judging old games by 2010 standards. I've been playing Courtside 1 & 2 recently and found them very fun to play and sometimes even sim-ish to some extent.

                          By the way, were the older ID's (2002, 2003) better than 2004, in your opinion? Which one did you like to play the most?
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                          • GaryT531
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                            • Jun 2008
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                            #58
                            Re: NBA Inside Drive 2004 - snubbed from b/c again

                            I had all of them, but didn't really play any of them all that much. I guess my favorite was 2003 and that was only because you could go through all of the rosters and edit players accesories for the first time in the series. I remember seeing how detailed , and realistic each player looked, even more so than 2k3. but 2k3 was an awesome game, and I spent my time actually playing games with 2k3. but inside drive 2003 was missing rookies, like yao ming for example.

                            2002 was something different, and maybe a little better than nba live 2002 was. but that was the first year that the nba 2k was on ps2, so I spent my time playing that game.

                            stick with looking for 2004. each version was better than the last, but still not the best b-ball game availble on the market that year.

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                            • youvalss
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                              • Feb 2007
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                              #59
                              Re: NBA Inside Drive 2004 - snubbed from b/c again

                              Ok, thanks for the info.
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                              • youvalss
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                                • Feb 2007
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                                #60
                                Re: NBA Inside Drive 2004 - snubbed from b/c again

                                Some good news. I went to Blockbuster to see maybe they'd have something (and picked up Shellshock Nam '67), but they didn't have any ID's. The lady behind the counter suggested that I'd go to EB Games (just around the corner), and so I did. And it was a smart move! I found NBA ID 2002 and 2003 (used, of course) and they both work great. They didn't have 2004, but at least I got something.

                                2002 is fun to play but seems more arcadish - with players sprinting the court like there's no tomorrow. Still a fun game with nice animations.
                                2003 is what I needed. And it plays a lot like 2004 (from the videos of 2004 that I've seen)! Good gameplay, awesome animations (10 times better than 2K4's, by the way), and the best part is the attributes and tendencies. It's so deep!!! I was shocked that a game from 2002 had all that! WOW! I assigned the right stick for crossovers and stuff (I wish I could do it like 2K games on the left stick, but oh well), and what is cool is that the crossovers are screen-related, meaning - you push the stick according to the camera angle, which is nice! I was disappointed that there's no Yao, for example, and I don't understand how come there are screenshots of Yao on the IGN review of the game (WTF?), but already created him. Don't mind to play with old rosters, as long as the game enjoyable it's fine with me. The days before Wade, LBJ and Carmelo...
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